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Old 1st December 2013, 10:33 PM
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Question How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

Is there a way for a non savvy (who can't just pull from git and compile these) to get those components sooner on F19 or, preferably, on F20? The reason I ask is that this combination is the only thing which may end my year-long ordeal with tearing in Gnome Shell on Intel Graphics. The clutter_paint workaround is not an option.

See the bug report for details
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711028

I was hoping F20 will ship the latest of those three, but it's not the case. Therefore I ask.
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Old 9th January 2014, 02:07 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

Any official news on the subject (for F20)?
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Old 10th January 2014, 07:07 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

I just grab mesa from koji and rebuild it using mock
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/
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Old 10th January 2014, 08:56 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

Thanks, but I'm not skilled enough for this. Also I need both Mesa and Xorg.
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Old 29th January 2014, 11:39 AM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

Looks like we'll be getting mesa 10 in few weeks from now
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloa...-stack-release

Still no news re Xorg 1.15 though.
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Old 29th January 2014, 09:46 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

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Looks like we'll be getting mesa 10 in few weeks from now
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloa...-stack-release

Still no news re Xorg 1.15 though.
I'm sorry, but where exactly in that link it is written that fedora will get mesa 10 in a few weeks? I'm really interested as I'd like to update my laptop to mesa10 mainly cause of the radeon gfx but right now I really don't have the time to compile nor mess with koji.

Thank you in advance!
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Old 29th January 2014, 09:55 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

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I'm sorry, but where exactly in that link it is written that fedora will get mesa 10 in a few weeks? I'm really interested as I'd like to update my laptop to mesa10 mainly cause of the radeon gfx but right now I really don't have the time to compile nor mess with koji.

Thank you in advance!
Please be advised that I'm a semi-n00b so I might have gotten something wrong. My understanding was: intel installer provides the latest graphics stack -> Q4 stack contains Mesa 10 -> once we get the installer to support F20 (feew weeks?) we get Mesa 10
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 29th January 2014, 10:13 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

Fair enough, I myself don't know what to make of those requirements. At some point (I think on phoronix) I saw a post from Adam Williamson saying it's still up in the air and it kind of disappointed me, but I'll survive I guess Maybe I'll end up installing the related packages from f21 or something since the next version of fedora will take longer than usual to get released.
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Old 29th January 2014, 10:49 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

I'm on the fence with moving to Arch-based Manjaro. I moved to Fedora from Ubuntu mainly to get new features faster. IDK how it was few years ago but now it takes too long for Fedora to catch up. And what's most annoying is that if a package X won't get qualified for Fedora N release, you're stuck with an outdated package X until Fedora N+1 gets released. This gets worse while the development of linux gets more and more exciting so... When we approach an initial adoption of Wayland replacing the grandpa Xorg Fedora will get unbearable
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Old 29th January 2014, 11:56 PM
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Re: How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

I totally understand how you feel, however I don't really plan to switch (not in the near future at least). As an ex-Gentoo user, I know how it is living with a rolling based distro, but at some point I got kinda tired of it. There was too much sys admin going on (not really Gentoo's fault as I was using the unstable tree, but stable was always too old for my "needs" and would be the fun on it? ). The problem wasn't the compilation of the packages btw. At some point, I switched to ubuntu and well... after a while I switched back to fedora. Ubuntu had some good points, but overall I was disappointed by most of their choices on the desktop, the subsystem etc.
What I wish fedora had, is an LTS release (a system supported and updated for 2 years). And yeah, I know there is RedHat and Centos (I use them for my servers), but their stack gets too outdated for desktop/workstation usage (again for my needs). Updates on key packages would be the most important part (upstream latest versions). Packages like libreoffice, graphics stack, kernel (already there), xorg, firefox/chromium etc would make the whole platform perfect for my needs.

PS: as a user I use my desktop for media consumption, some 3d gaming, browsing, etc. As a developer, I work on web development (php, nodejs, sql and the usual mix), some light android/java development and finally some remote administration.
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