Fedora Linux Support Community & Resources Center
  #1  
Old 28th September 2007, 09:16 AM
Asel Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
installing FC 7 without boot loader. How ?

Hi , I've new pc and I want to use it only with FC 7 . Cant I install FC 7 without grub boot loader ? So just I turn my machine on it will directly boot fc without seeing that boring grub ?

thank you in advance .

Last edited by Asel; 28th September 2007 at 09:20 AM. Reason: replace grab with grub :) that's all :p
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28th September 2007, 09:22 AM
leigh123linux
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You have to have a boot loader ( It can be grub or the windows bootloader )
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 28th September 2007, 09:27 AM
Asel Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
Thank you leigh123@linux for your reply . So far ok . But why there an option (No boot loader ) in installation procedures ?

And if there anyway to not see that "boring" grub menu ?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28th September 2007, 09:32 AM
leigh123linux
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asel
Thank you leigh123@linux for your reply . So far ok . But why there an option (No boot loader ) in installation procedures ?

And if there anyway to not see that "boring" grub menu ?
You can install grub to the root partition instead of the MBR ( i think this option is in advanced boot options )

You can alter the timeout to hide the grub menu ( try 1 instead of 5 )

Code:
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You do not have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg.
#          root (hd4,2)
#          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdd3
#          initrd /boot/initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/sdd3
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd4,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.22.7-85.fc7)
        root (hd4,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.7-85.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb nodmraid quiet pci=routeirq
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.7-85.fc7.img
title Fedora (2.6.22.6-81.fc7)
        root (hd4,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.6-81.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb nodmraid quiet pci=routeirq
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.6-81.fc7.img
title Fedora (2.6.22.5-77.fc7)
        root (hd4,2)
        kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-77.fc7 ro root=LABEL=/1234 rhgb nodmraid quiet pci=routeirq
        initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-77.fc7.img

Last edited by leigh123linux; 28th September 2007 at 09:38 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28th September 2007, 10:29 AM
stevea
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asel
Hi , I've new pc and I want to use it only with FC 7 . Cant I install FC 7 without grub boot loader ? So just I turn my machine on it will directly boot fc without seeing that boring grub ?

thank you in advance .
You can comment out the splashscreen line and set the timeout to 1 or maybe 0 seconds in grub.conf. That should make grub less visible.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 28th September 2007, 11:29 AM
stoat Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,548
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asel

But why there an option (No boot loader ) in installation procedures ?
That is there in case you want to launch Fedora with some other Linux distribution's boot loader. For example, if you already had Ubuntu installed and working, its boot loader could launch the Fedora kernel and initrd.img.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 28th September 2007, 01:48 PM
Asel Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
Thank you really really guys all for your valuable help .

I set timeout=0 and then ...... no boring (it's really boring for me ) grub not been seeing anymore !

stoat thank you for illustrate now I get it !

And I like to thank you guys again leigh123@linux ,stevea and stoat .
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 28th September 2007, 09:49 PM
Kirurgs Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 56
Dude, as leigh123@linux pointed out, You have to have bootloader! W/o that You can't boot a system - installed somewhere or external one...

No boot leader means that Fedora won't install any bootloader and You have to boot system yourself, like with some 3rd party bootloader or whatever else that suits...

I have laptop with Windoze and Fedora installed, no bootloader for Fedora, no entries in boot.ini for Fedora. As I didn't want to screw up MBR, I use grub boot CD with El Torito stage. When I need Fedora I boot up that CD, grub prompt appears and I have to enter kernel, initrd etc. manually. So, noone really notices that I have 2 OS, as w/o the CD it boots Windoze transparently and windoze can't recognize Linux partitions by default...

Last edited by Kirurgs; 28th September 2007 at 09:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 29th September 2007, 01:30 PM
Asel Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirurgs
Dude, as leigh123@linux pointed out, You have to have bootloader! W/o that You can't boot a system - installed somewhere or external one...

No boot leader means that Fedora won't install any bootloader and You have to boot system yourself, like with some 3rd party bootloader or whatever else that suits...

I have laptop with Windoze and Fedora installed, no bootloader for Fedora, no entries in boot.ini for Fedora. As I didn't want to screw up MBR, I use grub boot CD with El Torito stage. When I need Fedora I boot up that CD, grub prompt appears and I have to enter kernel, initrd etc. manually. So, noone really notices that I have 2 OS, as w/o the CD it boots Windoze transparently and windoze can't recognize Linux partitions by default...
Ok , but I didn't have any other OS only FC 7 . What I need is to not seeing that grub menu .And I've done that by editing "grub.conf" and set timeout to zero . And Now no boot menu displayed ! Fantastic !

And wish you tell me How to boot from grub boot CD ?

Last edited by Asel; 29th September 2007 at 01:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
boot , installing , loader

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rebuilding the Grub Boot Loader on Master Boot Record (MBR) w Fedora Linux Vector Guides & Solutions (Not For Questions) 6 1st August 2009 08:39 AM
Installing Grub Boot Loader FC10 to FC11 update woodelf Using Fedora 1 30th July 2009 10:18 AM
Fedoar 8 install hangs at "installing boot loader" extendedping Installation, Upgrades and Live Media 5 13th November 2007 08:57 AM
GRUB boot loader r windows boot loader? Rebels Mascot Using Fedora 4 12th May 2005 03:50 AM


Current GMT-time: 03:32 (Thursday, 19-10-2017)

TopSubscribe to XML RSS for all Threads in all ForumsFedoraForumDotOrg Archive
logo

All trademarks, and forum posts in this site are property of their respective owner(s).
FedoraForum.org is privately owned and is not directly sponsored by the Fedora Project or Red Hat, Inc.

Privacy Policy | Term of Use | Posting Guidelines | Archive | Contact Us | Founding Members

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

FedoraForum is Powered by RedHat