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    OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    I need to replace a hard drive that recently
    went bad, and the new drive needs to be at
    least 1TB. I was looking on Amazon and
    debating whether to buy a 5400rpm versus 7200rpm disk,
    when, just for fun, I thought I would price
    1TB SSD disks. I started finding things
    such as this:


    https://www.amazon.com/Inland-Profes...drive+1TB+sata
    Inland Professional 1TB SSD 3D NAND SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5" 7mm Internal Solid State Drive (1T)
    $140 (USD)


    https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...hard+drive+1TB
    Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)
    $148 (USD)


    Can I just plug one of these drivex into a SATA plug
    on my motherboard and it will function just like
    a regular spinning hard disk drive?

    If 1TB SSD drives have become so cheap, I don't
    understand why anyone would buy a hard drive that
    spins anymore, but maybe I am missing something.

    Am I missing anything?

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    Can I just plug one of these drives into a SATA plug
    Yes. All my laptops run SSDs and all are running Linux.

    As for why anyone would buy a spinning hard drive.... Well, only for >1TB capacity does it make sense (and that is slowly changing). My laptops run 120GBs and 250GBs and I don't feel the need for 'more' disk space. Of course my home server uses spinning disk for storage (3TB), but all the OS drives on our desktops and server use 120-250GB SSDs.
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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    chicagocoyote wrote:
    If 1TB SSD drives have become so cheap, I don't
    understand why anyone would buy a hard drive that
    spins anymore, but maybe I am missing something.
    Am I missing anything?
    Price still is a factor:
    How much does 1tb hard drive cost?
    Seagate Hard Drive Prices By Size
    Drive Size Model Price
    1 TB ST1000DM010 $49.99

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    ~$150 for 1TB still isn't that bad. That is a price I could easily 'jump' to a 1TB SSD if I was needing one. And the performance 'boost' you get from just going to the SSD just blows the spinning hard drive out of the water.

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    Someone on another list pointed out the bad reviews
    for the Inland drive, but the Samsung drive
    has good reviews and of course, Samsung is a big name.

    This person also suggested that these "new"
    $150 1TB SSD dives "have no RAM cache whatsoever, greatly
    reducing access speeds", and so I will certainly
    look into this aspect.

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    I've had good luck with my Samsung drives. Knock on wood. Looking at the 860 specs it has a low power 1GB DD4 cache according to the www.newegg.com site for this drive. No harm in checking reviews!

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    I see that Samsung makes _two_ different 1TB SSD
    drives, with quite a bit of price difference
    between them:


    https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-...amsung+EVO+SSD
    Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)
    $148
    MZ-76E1T0B/AM


    https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-I...amsung+EVO+SSD
    Samsung 850 EVO 1TB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E1T0B/AM)
    MZ-75E1T0B/AM
    $335

    though in reading the specs as they are displayed on
    Amazon, I am not sure what you have getting for the
    extra money for the MZ-75E1T0B.

    Anyone know?

    And that $335 is quite a bit price difference from
    a $50 1TB 5200rpm disk.

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    Can I just plug one of these drivex into a SATA plug on my motherboard and it will function just like a regular spinning hard disk drive?
    Chicago, I replaced the old hd in my Dell laptop with with a Crucial MX500, which was supposed to be compatible according to Crucial. Guess what. IT WAS! I had no problem and proceeded to install F29 directly. The difference is noticeable. The boot-up time is just short of stunning, especially if you're use to old VAX midis and TRS-80s like I am. (Hey! What can I say? I'm an old-timer!)

    There may be some relatively simple configuration items that you may want to consider after you have installed your system, though, and you may want to read this https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showt...n-Fedora-Linux too.

    A configuration detail I hadn't thought about was that log files (written and re-written daily and continually) and browser cache files (written often) have the potential to corrupt the memory of the SSD because of overuse. Not that it's a severe problem - as I understand it, it's just a "weak point" that can be easily addressed. The link shows how nicely.

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    When the NSA and Telaviv think they have had enough data, the pricess will drop to $1/TB on anything . lol.
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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    black friday deals are already live but should get better tomorrow since it will actually be black friday. the Samsung 1TB EVO 860 SSD is a decent enough drop in replacement for a 1TB HDD drive, I have no experience of the other brand 'Inland' mentioned above. even the M.2 nvme EVO 970 are reduced already in the UK. I picked my 500GB EVO 970 up a couple of weeks ago for 134 and it included a copy of Assassin's Creed Origins

    anyone looking at the 860 may also want to consider the Crucial MX500. They offer similar performance and warranty periods but are usually a little cheaper than the Samsung drives. I also prefer Crucial's disk management utilities to Samsung's Wizard. WD seem to be behind the curve a bit with their WD and Sandisk branded offerings.

    SSD prices are falling but you still have to read carefully the reviews and specifications. the older generation drives can now be picked up for peanuts but aren't anywhere near as fast and also have much lower life expectancy. I'll only now buy for myself or fit to a customer PC an SSD from the current generation with a minimum 5 year warranty

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    You get what you pay for. SSDs with three bits per cell will have a performance hit if you need to transfer large amounts of data at once (like a partition backup). Some quad level SSDs run as slow as disks when the amount transferred exceeds the size of the cache. The advantage of SSDs if isolation from vibration and dropping.
    They still say to leave 10% free so as to prolong SSD life.
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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    If they do slow down ... I haven't ran into it yet. In everyone of my use cases, the transfer rates far exceed mechanical disks. Applications flash up when requested, OS comes up very quickly, OS install is quick, etc. Not as much power consumed either. And of course are quiet, light weight (a little velcro at stick anywhere in case) and as you mentioned dropping and vibration issues are a thing of the past. Even 'if' there was a case where the write 'slowed' down to a mechanical drive, the SSD is still worth it. Way worth it. One caveat... treat as a any hard drive as far as backups go! I haven't had one fail yet, but they aren't infinite life.
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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    Definitely go with an SSD for your OS and applications if you can afford it. The difference is huge and SSD's have gotten very affordable. Even a low end SSD is going to be many times faster and more responsive than any mechanical disk. The mechanical hard drives are still king when it comes to storage density so I use a 512GB SSD for OS an applications and an 8TB mechanical drive for everything else.

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    SSD price has drop specially this black friday, not all people can't afford even it price drop and for sure hdd also price has drop so it's diffidently a budget problem most people don't need hdd it's like the saying goes "It's hard to teach new things".

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    Re: OT(?): SSD disk prices have dropped?

    I picked up Samsung SSD EVO 860 1TB from amazon for $70 off the retail price but they limit one per account. Now the price increased by $25. It was a great price while it lasted. Too bad I couldn't buy more than one.

    Replacing HDD with SSD made a huge difference (this is the first time I ever owned a SSD). Boot time and shutdown time was drastically reduced by a factor of 10 or so. Very quiet (actually no noise at all) and not overly hot as HDDs. Reading and writing files are quite snappy.

    I feel like the improvement is worth several factors more than the purchase price.

    Since my original HDD was 2TB, I actually lost 1TB of space, but my disk usage never exceeded 200GB anyway, so I didn't lose anything. I could have bought a 500GB (250GB may be a little tight) but what the heck, the price of 1TB is cheaper than 120GB IDE disk I bought years ago.

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