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    Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I tried to install Fedora 28 on a brand new laptop that has a kind of Windows 10 initially pre-installed.

    I wrote a Fedora 28 image to two different USB devices, a USB-memory key and a USB-disk. I disabled the TPM and tried both UEFI and non-UEFI.

    But Fedora does not fully boot. In the end I get these messages:
    (1 of 2) A start job is running for Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, snapshots etc. using dmeventd or progress polling
    (2 of 2) A start job is running for udev Wait for Complete Device Initialization

    I also tried the latest rawhide images to no avail.

    Have you any suggestions on how to install Fedora? What is the root cause of this problem? Should I be able to enable TPM and/or UEFI?

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    HOW did you create your USB stick? Best luck is with dd; worst luck seems to be unebootin.

    dd if={image to write to stick} of=/dev/{device name for stick}
    In my case, the stick became sdb when plugged in, so my "of=" was /dev/sdb
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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I agree with lightman47: dd works best to copy isos to usb drives. I would keep TPM off and I would also disable "Fast Boot" in BIOS. I see that you used the default LVM for your partitions; I avoid LVM (I use "normal partitions" which are ext4). LVM adds complexity which users just don't need.

    Generally if your system is UEFI, then when you install Fedora, it too should be installed as UEFi boot. You point /boot/efi at the Windows EFI partition (usually /dev/sda2); don't create a separate Fedora EFI partition.
    Last edited by donatom; 4th July 2018 at 04:29 AM.

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    Thanks for the replies @lightman27 and @donatom. Unfortunately the problem is not solved. I do not think that the issue is related to writing the ISO image to the USB device (I tried dd as you both suggested) but I got exactly the same issue as before.

    When I boot from the USB device, after a while there are two start jobs running:
    A start job is running for Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, snapshots etc. using dmeventd or progress polling
    A start job is running for udev Wait for complete device initialization

    Then the following message appears, and the system seems to hang:
    nvme0: controller is down; will reset: CSTS=0xffffffff, PCI_STATUS=0xffff

    Could this be a BIOS issue?

    The BIOS states that the model of the sytem is: N140WU.
    BIOS version: 1.05.02
    KBC/EL firmware version: 1.05.02
    ME FW version: 11.8.50.3434
    Version 2.18.1263 American Megatrends

    I have TPM and "fast boot" off in the bios. This happens both with UEFI and legacy boot.
    @donatom: I am not deliberately using LVM. I just run the unmodified Fedora image from USB. Can I disable LVM with a boot parameter? Is your last remark already relevant for me when I'm only trying to start the Fedora live image from the USB device? I am not reaching the installation process (yet).

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I also created a bug for this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1599042

    This is what I added in the bug report:
    I made a change in the BIOS in the Advanced screen to the SATA mode setting:

    Originally SATA mode was set to: AHCI Mode
    I selected for SATA mode: Intel RST Premium With Intel Optane System Acceleration

    Now the Live Fedora image boots fully.

    However, I do not see the SSD disk when Fedora is booted. Nor in the installer, the gparted, blivet-gui or disks. Only the USB pen with the live image is being reported. So I still cannot install Fedora to my system.

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    Have you created free space from your windows install before booting the Fedora iso? Generally that is what you do before trying to dual boot. In anaconda (installer), do you see any partitions related to your Windows installation?

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I am not going for a dual boot, so I did not create space. I just want to overwrite all Windows partitions. But when I use AHCI, the image from the USB flash drive does not even boot (see the errors in the top post), when I use 'Intel RST Premium With Intel Optane System Acceleration', the USB flash drive boots, but I do not see any other devices in anaconda.
    I'm getting more and more the impression that this is a bios issue :-(
    Last edited by janvlug; 8th July 2018 at 07:13 PM. Reason: clearer response to question in previous post

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    Try changing start up source/disc to external usb devices (first) and CD/DVD to second. Change from Intel RST Premium With Intel Optane System Acceleration to AHCI and then try to boot the live Fedora iso. I believe that Intel RST Premium . . . is not the correct setting to boot an external usb device.

    Also what is the exact make and model of your laptop? This information could be of use to others who might try to help you with this issue.

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    @donatom. The start of the booting from the USB flash device is not the problem. It looks like that the issue is that the internal SDD disk is not correctly detected, and therefore the boot process hangs. There is no CD/DVD in the system.

    The details from the bios are here:
    Information from the BIOS of my system:
    The BIOS states that the model of the sytem is: N140WU.
    BIOS version: 1.05.02
    KBC/EL firmware version: 1.05.02
    ME FW version: 11.8.50.3434
    Version 2.18.1263 American Megatrends

    In the meanwhile, I also created a bug in bugzilla for this issue:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1599042

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    Can you provide the make and model of the SSD ?
    (I vaguely recall that some SSDs were difficult for Linux.)

    User error. Please replace user and try again

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    you really need to consider raising the issue with the notebook vendor, I'm not sure that the Fedora bug filed is the way to go. Are there any other storage controller options available than AHCI and Intel RST premium with optane?

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    @ocratato:
    The disks is a Western Digital: WDS500G2X0C:
    https://products.wdc.com/library/Spe...178-800181.pdf
    https://products.wdc.com/library/Spe...879-810008.pdf
    The bios states: PCIe 1.0, WDS500G2X0C-00L350
    This link suggests that the SSD is supported under Linux:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12543...and-ssd-review

    @antikythera:
    I am in contact with the vendor, I hope they can give info about whether there is a bios update available/needed. Thanks for the suggestion. No there are no other storage controller options available.

    Does Fedora support NVME SSD's?
    Last edited by janvlug; 9th July 2018 at 07:30 PM. Reason: Added question.

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I found another report describing the issue that I have with exactly the same Western Digital SSD model:
    https://community.wd.com/t/linux-sup...me-2018/225446

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    Re: Unable to boot from live F28 image on brand new laptop

    I replaced the WD Black SSD with a:
    500GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME PCI-e 3.0 x4, M.2
    This SSD is recognized correctly and Fedora 28 is running fine on it now.

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