FedoraForum.org - Fedora Support Forums and Community
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 16 to 27 of 27
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    India
    Age
    32
    Posts
    401

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    i would prefer firejail over using groups etc.

  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Al Ain, UAE
    Posts
    736

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Paranoid much? In my experience WINE viruses are not really a problem.
    --
    Have fun!
    http://www.aeronetworks.ca

  3. #18
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    770

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    @topiwala
    2 problem with firejail:

    1) not available neither in Fedora repositories nor in RPMFusion repositories. Only in coper. Why such great application not available, I do not understand !

    2) I do not use Wine only for games. I use it for PDF editor & irfanview. So, does isolation (sandboxing) such applications by firejail allow them to be still productive ? If irfanview isolated by firejail, then does it will be still able to handle & edit images ?

    @flyingdutchman
    I'm very unlucky man in my life, & I expect that bad things that are rare & uncomon to face me as rain of stones over my head ! This is what called bad luck ! I'm of that type ...
    Fedora 26 X64 bit Cinnamon edition on Lenovo ThinkPad e550 with Intel core i7 5500 CPU @ 2.40 GH X 2, RAM = 8 GB, HHD = 1 TB, Hybrid VGA (Intel Corporation HD Graphic 5500 + Radeon R7 M265 2GB)

  4. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    India
    Age
    32
    Posts
    401

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    i agree not having it in official repos is a problem but i use this solution

    a- i compile. It is easy as compared to other programs
    b- to keep me updated i use RSS feed. Firejail page has Atom feed.

    As for second problem i haven't used those programs.

    Now a days i do not even install wine.
    Last edited by topiwala; 12th October 2017 at 06:16 PM. Reason: Atom not RSS feed. added

  5. #20
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    770

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by topiwala
    i agree not having it in official repos is a problem but i use this solution

    a- i compile. It is easy as compared to other programs
    b- to keep me updated i use RSS feed. Firejail page has Atom feed.

    As for second problem i haven't used those programs.

    Now a days i do not even install wine.
    WineHQ & Anbox are 2 great tools ! Wine make you able to use Windows applictions on Linux. If you observing change log of wine, you will see that versions 2+ started to add very important features, so that version 3 will be very good. I suspect that version 4 at 2019 will be excellent.

    Regarding anbox:

    https://anbox.io

    it is still alpha. It enable you to run Android applications on Linux in exetra ordinary way ! It is secure by default !

    No other OS like Linux in it's elasticity !
    Fedora 26 X64 bit Cinnamon edition on Lenovo ThinkPad e550 with Intel core i7 5500 CPU @ 2.40 GH X 2, RAM = 8 GB, HHD = 1 TB, Hybrid VGA (Intel Corporation HD Graphic 5500 + Radeon R7 M265 2GB)

  6. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    India
    Age
    32
    Posts
    401

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    My experience with wine was "difficult".

    I use virtual machine if need like for scanning or android SDK. I will look into anbox.

    For most i am exclusively linux user.

  7. #22
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    770

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by topiwala
    My experience with wine was "difficult".

    I use virtual machine if need like for scanning or android SDK. I will look into anbox.

    For most i am exclusively linux user.
    Regarding Anbox, please beware that currently there is something you should download & install manually to install Anbox on Fedora - read their forum or bug, I do not remember exactly .... Test it on Debian is better, as I think .... It is still ALPHA !

    I'm like you, mostly Linuxer, now ! But game ! There are very nice windows games not available on Linux ......
    Fedora 26 X64 bit Cinnamon edition on Lenovo ThinkPad e550 with Intel core i7 5500 CPU @ 2.40 GH X 2, RAM = 8 GB, HHD = 1 TB, Hybrid VGA (Intel Corporation HD Graphic 5500 + Radeon R7 M265 2GB)

  8. #23
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Montreal, Que, Canada
    Posts
    4,598

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Hi User808
    Everyone has access to the su command.

    Only a wreckless administrator or an adminstrator with poor linux/security knowledge will give that user the root password.

    Once that user is given the root password, he can edit /etc/group and add his login to the wheel group.
    That is why we allow sudo. And yes, with sudo you do not have to give total system access . You can even manage printing, file allocation, and commands that you want to remain privileged.
    Leslie in Montreal

    Interesting web sites list
    http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...40#post1697840

  9. #24
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    770

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by lsatenstein
    Hi User808
    Everyone has access to the su command.
    This is bad ! FreeBSD do not allow this. I think every new user added should be by defsult has no sudo, no su powers + unable to gain root from within any GUI including Gnome software.
    Fedora 26 X64 bit Cinnamon edition on Lenovo ThinkPad e550 with Intel core i7 5500 CPU @ 2.40 GH X 2, RAM = 8 GB, HHD = 1 TB, Hybrid VGA (Intel Corporation HD Graphic 5500 + Radeon R7 M265 2GB)

  10. #25
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Freedonia
    Age
    68
    Posts
    3,037

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Why is it bad? Just having access to su doesn't give you access to root because you still need to know root's password. And, although you can also use su to become some other user, you still need that user's password. Also, in Fedora (and I think Ubuntu) only the first user you create is added to wheel by default. If you don't want anybody else to have access to root, don't add them to wheel and don't tell them the root password.
    Registered Linux user #470359 and permanently recovered BOFH.

    Any advice in this post is worth exactly what you paid for it.

  11. #26
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    770

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by sidebrnz
    Why is it bad? Just having access to su doesn't give you access to root because you still need to know root's password. And, although you can also use su to become some other user, you still need that user's password. Also, in Fedora (and I think Ubuntu) only the first user you create is added to wheel by default. If you don't want anybody else to have access to root, don't add them to wheel and don't tell them the root password.
    What it will be the case if Wine dependent virus has build in tool for spantanous password generator & thus will trying to crack su password ? This is what I concerned about.

    Let we return to topic of this thread. Do any one used "nobody" group & no more about what happened for user added to this group ?
    Fedora 26 X64 bit Cinnamon edition on Lenovo ThinkPad e550 with Intel core i7 5500 CPU @ 2.40 GH X 2, RAM = 8 GB, HHD = 1 TB, Hybrid VGA (Intel Corporation HD Graphic 5500 + Radeon R7 M265 2GB)

  12. #27
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Freedonia
    Age
    68
    Posts
    3,037

    Re: I like to know meaning of groups in Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by lsatenstein
    Once that user is given the root password, he can edit /etc/group and add his login to the wheel group.
    True, but why bother? Once you have the root password, you don't need sudo. As an example, the only reason I have it installed on my computer is that there are packages that need it, because I certainly don't. Whenever I need root, I use su.
    Registered Linux user #470359 and permanently recovered BOFH.

    Any advice in this post is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

Similar Threads

  1. Groups and Environment Groups
    By djl47 in forum Using Fedora
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10th December 2015, 09:32 AM
  2. Yahoo Groups dedicated to Linux
    By tech291083 in forum Wibble
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 8th April 2013, 02:50 PM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 22nd April 2009, 02:53 PM
  4. fc9 yum failed, who can tell me what't the meaning?
    By comain in forum Using Fedora
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 19th May 2008, 01:46 AM
  5. what is meaning of sha1sum?
    By kalpana in forum Installation, Upgrades and Live Media
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 13th July 2005, 01:17 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •