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    Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Greetings!

    As I continue to get promised fully configured, I am going to want to
    have as good a driver as possible for my HP Office Jet Pro 8610 printer.

    (I had an HP Office Jet 9110 that I had had for just over a decade,
    but it also died a couple of months ago. That printer had a parallel port
    connection, and this was actually how I had it connected to barrycon! I
    even had Puget Systems put a parallel port on the promised computer!)

    I used a JetDirect card in the 9100 printer to attach it as a network
    printer to my Windows Vista computer.

    The HP Office Jet Pro 8610 is a very new computer, only out a couple
    of months I believe. That does not appear in a "listing" of HP printers.

    The 8610 is on the wireless network, and both the Windows Vista and
    the promised computer is already printing to it.

    However, while Windows is allowing me to duplex (which is definitely
    the main feature I want to use -- use half of the paper to print!) and
    other things, the current way promised is set up to use it, it appears to
    be a "generic" driver and does not even provide access to things like
    duplexing.

    I know that Windows and MAC has the software provided. In Linux, you
    have to get the software. Over a decade ago, I had the time, and I
    believe I created my own PPD file and got CUPS set up.

    (I had even taken the time to "fine-tune" the margins and things, and
    had some files in place that would allow utilities such as a2ps to use
    those customized values. I used to have time to thoroughly work out all
    these things.)

    If anyone happens to know any URLs or documentation that would help
    me get CUPS on promised using "better software/drivers" to print to the HP
    Office Jet Pro 8610 more quickly, I would appreciate it.

    Thank you!
    Barry
    Barry L. Bond

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Barry:
    Try hp_officejet_pro_8610
    Documentation and capabilities for 8610 and links to hplip download.

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    try installing the hplip-gui package with yum from the fedora repository. it is the hp device manager aka full controls for the printer like the windows version has plus additional maintenance features the printer has on it's web interface over jetdirect.

    run that and it should detect your printer (I had to enter the IP address under advanced) and install the correct drivers. you will need to enter root password to add the printer to your system though as it prompts for this.

    the site linked to above provides a reasonable level of information. however the GUI does work. when you install hplip-gui through yum it also installs the required Qt4 runtime libraries.

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi jims and arehtykitna!

    Thanks to both of you!

    I have successfully installed jims' link and the hp-gui.

    Oddities/wonders/questions...

    A "yum install hplip-gui" says it is already installed. Yet, when I "find / -iname '*hplip-gui*'" there is only one match, and it's in /var/lib/yum/yumdb, and the "hplip-gui" is in the middle of a LONG string of characters.

    When I type "hp-" and hit [TAB] twice, a number of things show up:

    [barry@promised ~]$ hp-
    hp-align hp-info hp-query
    hp-check hp-levels hp-scan
    hp-clean hp-linefeedcal hp-sendfax
    hp-colorcal hp-logcapture hp-setup
    hp-devicesettings hp-makecopies hp-systray
    hp-diagnose_plugin hp-makeuri hp-testpage
    hp-diagnose_queues hp-plugin hp-timedate
    hp-doctor hp-pqdiag hp-toolbox
    hp-fab hp-print hp-unload
    hp-faxsetup hp-printsettings hp-wificonfig
    hp-firmware hp-probe
    No hp-gui. So, while yum said it installed, I haven't found it! :-)

    So, I first ran hp-setup. I set up the printer, including duplexing.

    The GNOME Printers dialog box isn't working too well... unless I just don't understand how to use it!

    Running hp-toolbox and the web localhost:631, I have gotten the duplexer set and made this latest-installed queue the default printer. (The one I had I have deleted.)

    It's a big improvement! :-)

    It prints on both sides!

    (Of course, I see "1m" at the beginning of bolded text and other things. Actually, on barrycon, I had written a sed script that would remove all underscores, bold characters, and ^H's. I will eventually get all of these things working on promised, as well.)

    It printed on both sides, though!

    I am really much more of a command-line oriented person than a GUI person. And, either mine isn't working because I'm not doing something correctly or hopefully it is rare, but more than one thing on the GNOME settings doesn't seem to work as I expect. One thing, go into 'All Settings" and click "Details". In the lower right corner it says "Checking for Updates" and a brief time later says [Install Updates]. I click it and nothing happens, and this has been the status for the last several reboots.

    (Does this just do a "yum update"?) :-)

    Anyway, thanks to your helpful replies, I think I'm "pretty well" there, or close to where I wanted to be regarding my printer! Thank you!

    Barry
    Barry L. Bond

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    No hp-gui. So, while yum said it installed, I haven't found it! :-)
    It installs as /usr/bin/hp-toolbox. This runs the gui.

    I am really much more of a command-line oriented person than a GUI person. And, either mine isn't working because I'm not doing something correctly or hopefully it is rare, but more than one thing on the GNOME settings doesn't seem to work as I expect. One thing, go into 'All Settings" and click "Details". In the lower right corner it says "Checking for Updates" and a brief time later says [Install Updates]. I click it and nothing happens, and this has been the status for the last several reboots.

    (Does this just do a "yum update"?) :-)
    I do not use this. I either do a CLI 'yum update' or use yumex for a graphical interface.

    I am not sure what it does.

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    I don't like or trust Gnome 3's package manager. Instead I installed yumex when I had Gnome installed. It gives far greater control. In answer to your question though, yes when you click on check for updates it initiates a yum command. yum is the backend. the command line prompt yum upgrade has the same effect as clicking that button. It pulls down the necessary updates. plus you get to see what is going on in terminal.

    Going back to the HP toolbox (type HP Device Manager in the Gnome search box and it should bring up the application icon in Gnome and save trawling through all the icons), I use it with my OfficeJet Pro k5400dtn because I have a different paper type in the upper tray (letterhead) to lower tray and like yourself duplex print a lot. So the full controls being available in Linux is a godsend. It also displays accurate ink levels and printhead usage, has maintenance routines etc.

    I'm not sure why it would fail to install properly in Gnome on your machine unless you tried with Software Manager. That doesn't seem from my experiences of it to pull all dependencies properly. Indeed that is another reason for recommending yumex (the GUI frontend to yum).

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi again jims and arehtykitna!

    Ah! I did run hp-toolbox! :-) Thank you!

    I see myself just doing a "yum update" at the command line, which I
    prefer, anyway. :-)

    ...hmmm.... or "yum upgrade".

    I like to see what is going on on the terminal, too!

    And, arehtykitna, I will have to say that I'm "not too crazy about"
    the GNOME 3 even menu structure. (I actually have F19 on my laptop which
    I purchased just over a year ago, it is similar.)

    On barrycon, I have, and use (have been counting on) 3 of the 4
    default workspaces. #1 has my barrycon windows (and 5 SEPARATE terminals
    are up, as well as firefox and gkrellm). #2 has 3 terminals open, one
    doing a "watch /usr/bin/ntpq -p" at an interval of 30 seconds, one doing a
    "tail -f /mnt/canaan/log/syslog" (where I can just go there any time and
    check on mail received/sent), and the third doing a "sudo tail -f
    /var/log/maillog" (where again I can go anytime and see mail's status from
    barrycon's perspective). And #4 is my "Sun access" workspace. It has 2
    separate terminals where I have been doing an "rlogin canaan" and running
    top or verifying that the time is good (as barrycon has NTP hosts via the
    Internet and canaan uses barrycon as its server), or run the ntpq -p and
    see that barrycon has the asterisk next to it...

    I have managed to not need the same stuff on the laptop, as it is a
    system I use to access stuff, but it is not my "control center", but I
    will really want to try to have the same thing once promised becomes
    barrycon!

    I don't seem to be able to open more than 1 terminal window. If I
    have one open and choose it again, it just brings that same one up. And,
    I'm not even sure about workspaces yet!

    So, if I don't figure these things out, not having time to do
    research that takes too long, I will likely be coming to the Fedora Forum
    with questions along this line, too! :-)

    Barry
    Barry L. Bond

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Barry:

    What are you using to bring up a terminal?

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    On Gnome you can open another window by right click and choose "New window" or something like that. It's been a couple years since I've done that, but try it.

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi jims!

    (Thank you for your consistent questions and replies!) :-)

    Right now, I'm doing what arehtykitna calls "trawling through the
    icons", I think that is how it was termed! :-D

    I left click on the upper left of the upper "task bar" and it brings
    icons along the left edge of the screen, and/or a "Search" box in the
    upper middle area of the screen.

    I have gone down to the very bottom along the left edge of the
    screen, and selected Utilities and from there, "Terminal". I have also
    typed "Terminal" in the "Search" box and it would bring that up.

    If I haven't selected it yet, it comes up. If I have selected it,
    but want a DIFFERENT terminal (so that I can "su -" in that terminal and
    still have barry in another terminal), it brings up the same terminal even
    if it was minimized.

    (I'll try what kurtdriver recommended. I figured posting my
    questions/comments/concerns here would bring me answers or suggestions! I
    just haven't done that as much in the past. In the past, I've been a
    "trial and error", spend sometimes even hours in research to solve the
    problems, I nearly every time got it, type of person. I'm afraid I just
    can't do that now. I had a rough drive-in to work this morning, due to
    sleep deprivation.)

    Barry
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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi kurtdriver!

    Quote Originally Posted by kurtdriver
    On Gnome you can open another window by right click and choose "New window" or something like that. It's been a couple years since I've done that, but try it.
    I wanted to tell you that this works! :-) I right-clicked in the window and it was "Open Terminal" and that brought a second/separate terminal window forward (One is root and one is barry, an immediate improvement! THANK YOU!)

    Barry
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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    You're welcome Barry, believe it or not, that's the way they designed it to be. Just one of the things that sent me to Xfce.

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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi Barry:

    You have confirmed that you are using Gnome Terminal, as I suspected.

    A couple of things you can do with Gnome Terminal:

    Not only do you have the facility to open another terminal and set it to that account, and potentially on a separate machine by using ssh from the CLI, you also have the ability to create separate profiles that you can use in tabs within the same terminal window or in a new terminal window.

    In my case, I have created profiles for the machines in my local network and for the machines within our amateur radio club's (TPARC) emergency services network that we have located at secure sites on mountaintops throughout BC.

    Each of the profiles contains the necessary custom command structure to initiate the connection and the colors and fonts setup of the environment for the separate window or the tab in the same window and does this by selecting the profile to use for the window or tab.

    To use one these profiles, from a running Gnome Terminal window, click on 'file' then click on 'Open Terminal' or 'Open Tab' and select the profile from the dropdown.

    I am attaching a few screen shots to give a feel for one of the profiles I use to initiate a terminal connection with one of my VMs.

    Have fun experimenting to find a happy mix of profiles
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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Hi jims!

    Neato! Thank you, for the screenshots, too!

    I expect I will get to things like that, SOME TIME! :-O

    I'm needing to work out my emergency mode message (in another post)
    and then ssh first. :-)

    Barry
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    Re: Getting better driver files for HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 printer

    Quote Originally Posted by jims
    Barry:
    Try hp officejet pro 8610 driver
    Documentation and capabilities for 8610 and links to hplip download.

    thanks i have installed my printer the detailed documentation helped

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