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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    For better integration of compiz i've build 'compiz-mate-gtk' and 'compiz-mate-conf' from the original compiz package.
    My idea is simple, i want only to build these 2 packages from the src.rpm.
    The other resulting packagess i've delete during the rpmbuild process.
    What I have done in the individual:
    -- Migrate the compiz package to mate with the mate migrate script.
    https://github.com/benpicco/mate-scripts
    -- fixing the resulting /core/gtk/window-decorator/marco.c
    -- removing the other resulting packages
    -- remove obseletes emerald-themes in compiz-mate-gtk, because except 3 themes the fixed for compiz 0.95 emerald version works fine.

    With 'compiz-mate-gtk' and 'compiz-mate-conf' marco instead of metacity is working.
    You can switch between marco and emerad if ermerald is installed with the compiz-fusion icon.
    Using mateconf to configurate compiz.
    One file of compiz-mate-gtk is conflicting with compiz-gtk.
    But i don't think that anyone who has installed mate use the gnome-fallback modus.
    So it's not a big problem.

    I've upload the packages for testing to fedora-mate-desktop-applications-testing.
    Also the src.rpm. Maybe Leigh can you inspect them?

    In general is this OK for you Leigh?

    Note:
    This packages are only for testing in the moment.

    Edit:
    I've upload new packages. Now we have a mate compat section in ccsm.
    alt+F1 and alt+F2 keys are working now.
    If you've download first versions pls reinstall them, because i doesn't change the version numbers for ompatibility reasons with the normal compiz packages.

    For those who have problems with compiz-0.95 like me i've upload packages for compiz-0.94,
    include normal compiz packages they aren't anymore in the official repos. They are repuild for boost-1.4.7.
    For installation you've to lock the version with yum-plugin-versionlock.
    /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/versionlock.list

    Edit again:
    Problems with compiz-0.9.5 are fixed by simple delete the compiz configuration.
    So it's no need to provide 0.94 packages anymore. They are delete from the repo.

    ---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:44 AM ----------

    The issue still exits.
    But i figure out it's the animation plugin what's break compiz-0.95.
    I don't think it's a mate issue because in xfce or kde i have the same problem.
    Also i have removed my mate compiz pakages, the issue is still there.
    Ok, idon't wanna spam this threat. I'll open a seperate threat for this.
    Last edited by raveit65; 28th February 2012 at 03:28 AM. Reason: compiz 0.95 problems still exits
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Repo is reoranize.
    By download proplems do a 'yum clean all'

    New download link.
    Code:
    yum install http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora/releases/16/noarch/mate-desktop-release-16-5.fc16.noarch.rpm
    Last edited by raveit65; 22nd March 2012 at 12:24 PM.
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    If someone is wondering that mate-keyring doesn't store any login-keyring in /home/user/.config/mate/keyrings, here is the workaround.
    If you're using gdm as display manager add those lines to
    -- /etc/pam.d/gdm
    Code:
    auth       optional    pam_mate_keyring.so
    session    optional    pam_mate_keyring.so auto_start
    -- /etc/pam.d/gdm-password
    Code:
    auth        optional      pam_mate_keyring.so
    session     optional      pam_mate_keyring.so auto_start
    -- /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin
    Code:
    auth        optional   pam_mate_keyring.so
    session    optional    pam_mate_keyring.so auto_start
    I think this is similar to other display manager.

    In mdm i've fixed this in an update.
    Last edited by raveit65; 6th March 2012 at 05:18 PM.
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Just tonight installed Gnome Desktop and then Mate Desktop. I love Mate! Finally an alternative to Gnome 3, which I consider to be too much work, and a disaster to operate. Mate is Great!

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Some user in the german forum told me that mate-keyring doesn't store any password for wifi in networkmanager. Also evolution contakts doesn't keep the password.
    I've no wifi at my home and do not use evolution.

    So can anyone confirm the issue?

    Tests with a USB-Stick and networkmanager result in that is necessary switch to gnome-keyring until mate-keyring is fixed.
    But this only work if mate-keying is uninstalled.
    For uninstalling mate-keyring we have to uppdate first some packages if they are installed
    -- mdm
    -- mate-deskbar-applet
    -- mate-scrreensaver
    -- panflute

    Here is a link with test package for x86_64 and i686.
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mat...keyring.tar.xz

    After uninstalling mate-keyring you've to install gnome-keyring.
    In mate-session-properties you found now 4 gnome-keyring daemons.
    Kill the mate-keyring-daemon with 'killall mate-keyring-daemon' and log out from session.
    After login you'll find the login key in /home/user/.gnome2/keyrings .
    'pgrep -fl key' in a terminal will show you the gnome-keyring-daemon.

    Then testing wifi and evolution contacts passwords.

    It would be very nice if someone is able to test the workaround and give a feedback before i make this major switch in the repo.

    thanks
    Last edited by raveit65; 14th March 2012 at 01:50 PM.
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    i work under multiple access points, and i notice that it saves some... but not all

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Which display manager do you use?
    Is only mate-keyring installed and not gnome-keyring?
    Which keyring daemons are aktivate in mate-session-properties?

    Thanks
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Mate works well, I finally went back to KDE last night. The only things I noticed that would be nice, and don't get me wrong here, great job on the software code!
    I just couldn't find a theme that would work right. I like a dark, black theme. In KDE I use Elegance for my desktop theme. Everytime I tried a dark, or blak theme in Mate, the pages in Firefox had the same theme, all input slots were black, and the fonts were hard to read.
    I couldn't figure out how to work around that, anyone?

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Quote Originally Posted by raveit65
    Is only mate-keyring installed and not gnome-keyring?
    after looking at it I found that is gnome-keyring that is doing the job everytime I log in, but it works...
    Quote Originally Posted by raveit65
    Which display manager do you use?
    I use KDM, i think that is what you ask... right?
    Quote Originally Posted by raveit65
    Which keyring daemons are aktivate in mate-session-properties?
    some of the "gnome-stuff" were mark to start, I uncheck everything that started with gnome-blahblahblah, but gnome-keyring was still showing up in my proccess list after login... once im connected gnome-keyring goes away...

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Quote Originally Posted by Magickman
    Mate works well, I finally went back to KDE last night. The only things I noticed that would be nice, and don't get me wrong here, great job on the software code!
    I just couldn't find a theme that would work right. I like a dark, black theme. In KDE I use Elegance for my desktop theme. Everytime I tried a dark, or blak theme in Mate, the pages in Firefox had the same theme, all input slots were black, and the fonts were hard to read.
    I couldn't figure out how to work around that, anyone?
    No problem, it's the linux way to use de DE what you like.
    In general desktop themes from gnome art should work with mate and you can chnge the gtkrc files from the themes.
    My gtkrc which based on xfce-colors:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mat...Eigenes.tar.xz
    It change colors and fonts in a glass panel for dark background, windows are orange. You'll find a picture in this threat.

    ---------- Post added at 05:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:05 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by solo2101
    after looking at it I found that is gnome-keyring that is doing the job everytime I log in, but it works...

    I use KDM, i think that is what you ask... right?

    some of the "gnome-stuff" were mark to start, I uncheck everything that started with gnome-blahblahblah, but gnome-keyring was still showing up in my proccess list after login... once im connected gnome-keyring goes away...
    Thx,
    you infos make it more clear for me what happens in this issue.

    For using networkmanager with wifi / umts and evolution-contacts we need gnome-keyring.
    In your case /etc/pam.d/kdm starts gnome-keyring.

    For using umts-sticks it's enough to disable mate-keyring in mate-session-properties.
    But it seems necessary to uninstall mate-keyring if using gnome-contacts.

    So, mate-keyring stays in installing mate with 'yum install MATE-Desktop', but i will remove some mate-keyring dependencies in 4 packages. This make it possible to remove mate-keyring. If someone want to do this he has to live with possible consequences.
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Does anyone know if the Theme Control Panel is fixed yet? The default themes are not all that, and the ones you can download will not install, or, if they do, the webpages change too. Mate is a great alternative to Gmome 3, just needs a little tweeking.

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Quote Originally Posted by raveit65
    Some user in the german forum told me that mate-keyring doesn't store any password for wifi in networkmanager. Also evolution contakts doesn't keep the password.
    I've no wifi at my home and do not use evolution.

    So can anyone confirm the issue?
    Yes, I can confirm that. I've made an exercise, installed Fedora 16 with MATE. Evolution asked for passwords everytime I started it, though could not check wifi passwords as tested on a desktop computer. Had to revert back to Fedora 14 as could not stand compiz issues -- compiz 0.9.4 was sa stable, not sure why they have replaced it with buggy and unstable 0.9.52 in F16
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Quote Originally Posted by megaloman
    Yes, I can confirm that. I've made an exercise, installed Fedora 16 with MATE. Evolution asked for passwords everytime I started it, though could not check wifi passwords as tested on a desktop computer. Had to revert back to Fedora 14 as could not stand compiz issues -- compiz 0.9.4 was sa stable, not sure why they have replaced it with buggy and unstable 0.9.52 in F16
    For gnome programes like evolution and networkmanager we need gnome-keying and you've to disable the 4 mate-keyring-daemons in mate-session-properties to use only gnome-keyring.
    And delete all keyrings in /home/rave/.config/mate/keyrings .
    After login you'll find them in /home/rave/.gnome2/keyrings if evolution had create the new keyring.

    I'm agree with you about compiz, it makes my desktop unusable in mate. kde and xfce.
    But in mate-desktop-fedora-new-application-testing repo you will find 0.94 versions.
    The trick to install them is to lock the version first with yum plugin versionlock like this.
    /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/versionlock.list
    Code:
    ccsm-0.9.4-2.fc16.noarch
    compiz-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-gtk-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-devel-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-fusion-extras-0.9.4-2.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-fusion-extras-devel-0.9.4-2.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-fusion-unsupported-0.9.4-8.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-plugins-main-0.9.4-3.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-plugins-main-devel-0.9.4-3.fc16.x86_64
    compizconfig-python-0.9.4-2.fc16.x86_64
    libcompizconfig-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    libcompizconfig-devel-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-manager-0.6.0-12.fc15.noarch
    compiz-mateconf-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    compiz-mate-gtk-0.9.4-4.fc16.x86_64
    And delete all configs from compiz-0.9.5

    ---------- Post added at 03:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:36 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Magickman
    Does anyone know if the Theme Control Panel is fixed yet? The default themes are not all that, and the ones you can download will not install, or, if they do, the webpages change too. Mate is a great alternative to Gmome 3, just needs a little tweeking.
    I'm not really understand what you mean?
    You don't find any mate theme from mate-themes in mate-appearance-properties?
    You can't install the gtkrc file or you mean mate-bluecurve-theme?
    Mate-bluecurve is fixed and an update is uploaded. (mate-bluecurve-theme-1.0-2.fc16.noarch.rpm)
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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Quote Originally Posted by raveit65
    but compiz-0.95 doesn't work correctly on my mate desktop.
    It isn't possible to close any window. I mean the window closed fizikman and it isn't anymore in the windows list,
    but the image stays on screen.
    .
    I haven't spend to much time on this.... but I know that the issue has to do with the animations-plugin... I just disable animation and the issue went away..

    by the way...
    if i want to install an applet for the panel, where does mate install the applets?

    EDIT:
    It has to do with the effects on the close animation tab
    I took all the effects out of here and everything works fine... I just don't have closing animation but its fine...
    Last edited by solo2101; 20th March 2012 at 12:56 AM.

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    Re: MATE Desktop for fedora 16

    Interesting and probably pretty easily explained, but I normally do yum updates through the terminal, which has shown nothing much, HOWEVER today PackageKit kicked in and lo and behold, 50 (count 'em 50) updates, and all MATE-related.

    So, is it just chance or is MATE bypassing the normal CLI updates and somehow enabling only PackageKit?

    Note that MATE's not shown in the normal YUM update:
    [root@localhost bob]# yum update
    Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
    Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
    updates/metalink | 13 kB 00:00
    * fedora: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
    * livna: rpm.livna.org
    * rpmfusion-free: mirror.hiwaay.net
    * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.hiwaay.net
    * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirror.hiwaay.net
    * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.hiwaay.net
    * updates: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
    adobe-linux-x86_64 | 951 B 00:00
    fedora-cinnamon | 2.9 kB 00:00
    google-chrome | 951 B 00:00
    google-chrome/primary | 1.5 kB 00:00
    google-earth | 951 B 00:00
    livna | 3.6 kB 00:00
    rpmfusion-free-updates | 3.3 kB 00:00
    rpmfusion-nonfree-updates | 3.3 kB 00:00
    google-chrome 3/3
    Setting up Update Process
    No Packages marked for Update
    [bob@localhost ~]$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d
    [bob@localhost yum.repos.d]$ ls
    adobe-linux-x86_64.repo
    fedora-cinnamon.repo
    fedoramd.repo
    fedoramd.repo~
    fedoramd-rpmfusion.repo
    fedoramd-russianfedora.repo
    fedora.repo
    fedora-updates.repo
    fedora-updates-testing.repo
    google-chrome.repo
    google-earth.repo
    livna.repo
    Mate-Desktop_fedora_16-new-application-testing.repo
    Mate-Desktop_fedora_16.repo
    Mate-Desktop_fedora_16-updates.repo
    Mate-Desktop_fedora_16-updates-testing.repo
    rpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
    rpmfusion-free.repo
    rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
    rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
    rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
    rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
    rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
    rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
    and yes, it's enabled:
    [mate-desktop-fedora]
    name=mate-desktop-fedora $releasever - $basearch
    baseurl=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora/
    enabled=1
    metadata_expire=7d
    gpgcheck=1
    gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-Mate-Desktop-Fedora
    Ever notice that as soon as you post a question, your brain functions finally pull themselves out of your anal pore and you come up with the answer? Yep, "yum clean all" refreshes yum and puts MATE's repos into the mix.
    Last edited by bob; 20th March 2012 at 02:34 AM.
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