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    Then fedora will be less popular than robotic hentai anime religious porn again.
    Well, we DO have to keep our priorities!
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    Howdy people,

    I must say I am not _very_ fan of the ubuntu-bashing part here, and there is a reason to that:
    [No, not that reason, I run Slackware 12.2 and it's great; the Fedora thing is my wife's laptop]

    As said in this very thread, F too is going the Nanny way, as despised by U-bashers.

    Hopefully, it brings us more PowerUsers that want to add some fun in their computing life while still retaining some form of practicality. (read: they won't jump straight to Gentoo, you need to pamper them).

    Not-Hopefully-at-all, it tells the ever-absent devs (they don't even do Bug Triage themselves) to go even more down the Nanny-Distro Route, so to grab more U fanatics and W never-got-enough nerds. You can't be wrong if you make it easy. Very easy. Can you?

    Quod erat Demonstrandum (so to keep the Latin part I didn't started): You have more people on the forums, they asks sillier questions, and everybody get lost and lost again because the distro's Tweaking Doors are ever-closing, and tight at that, and so they come in vaster numbers because there are so much things they wanna do that they seems not to be able to anymore.

    Shan't we be all singin' with joy at our ever-expanding community? Yep! I'd recommend all to be patient, and to answer, again and again, the newbies questions with precise, complete information so that their future input be that of aware Nixers and Nixettes, that know what to expect from a traditional distribution and put their weight in on getting it on their machines.


    And maybe _not_ every SIX months with 2 GIGS of updates in the meantime, I live in Cambodia for ****'s sake!

    Damn I-Will-Rule-The-World-&-Faster-Than-You UBUNTU! They started it!

    ...Ooops, sorry, I should go back on my medication now, I dunno what happened to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacepunk
    I should go back on my medication now
    Ah, that explains it.

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    @Peacepunk- I loved your post here, and am aligned with your way of thinking. I'm sitting back here in F8 and am oh so grateful and thankful that that is where I am in Fedora's progression (regression in some peoples point of view).

    Because of my bandwidth limitations, I am precluded from doing what most Fedorans do on a regular basis... download the latest, greatest, newest, bigger-version-number-are-better-think, release of Fedora. If someone knocked on my door today and handed me a F10 install DVD, I would politely decline, or drop it in the waste basket. I don't want it... it's not the Linux I've come to love.

    Is this to say I'm 'done' with Fedora? Not by any means. My reason for installing Linux in the first place was to learn the ways of the command line. That's still my primary goal and primary cause of satisfaction and feeling of 'having fun' in using Linux. Can't log in as root..?? Get 'outa here...

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    " Then fedora will be less popular than robotic hentai anime religious porn again. "

    Ay-yah...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PabloTwo
    @Peacepunk- I loved your post here, and am aligned with your way of thinking. I'm sitting back here in F8 and am oh so grateful and thankful that that is where I am in Fedora's progression (regression in some peoples point of view).

    Because of my bandwidth limitations, I am precluded from [...] download the latest, greatest, newest, bigger-version-number-are-better-think, release of Fedora.[...] I don't want it... it's not the Linux I've come to love.

    Is this to say I'm 'done' with Fedora? Not by any means. My reason for installing Linux in the first place was to learn the ways of the command line. That's still my primary goal [...] Can't log in as root..?? Get 'outa here...
    Then let us be activists, and so much more as there seems, as they say, there's an increase in numbers!

    LinuxFormat issue 112 has on p.52 Fedora Community Leader Max Spevack pretending that it is the community that is now the driving force behind Fedora. Let us remind ourselves that, and that alone should make F well apart the U bandwagoon, if for that alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob
    Nope, I just checked. It's now 5:17AM.

    However, I just can't believe that at any one time we have over 5000 people, not members, just checking things out here. It would seem that with a testing distro, especially one with a less-than-perfect search engine, you'd take a couple of minutes to join and ask a question once in awhile. I mean, does it seem reasonable that we'd have a 50-1 ratio? Might be, I suppose, but I'd expect closer to a 5-1 ratio.
    I more often then not just search and browse without logging in so I can believe it, many browsers may never register. Many counted guest could be Google spiders also.

    I was doing a quick comparison of other forums guest vs registered users ratio mainly:

    Sabayon Forums: In total there are 17 users online :: 4 registered, 0 hidden and 13 guests

    Ubuntuforums: does not publish this info at all to browsers not signed in, if at all?

    Sidux: does not publish this info at all to browsers not signed in, if at all?

    Linuxmint: In total there are 17 users online :: 3 registered, 0 hidden and 14 guests

    Puppy: In total there are 52 users online :: 8 Registered, 0 Hidden and 44 Guests

    Archlinux: Registered users online: 18 Guests online: 74

    PC-BSD: In total there are 9 users online :: 2 registered, 0 hidden and 7 guests

    Gentoo: In total there are 65 users online :: 13 Registered, 3 Hidden and 49 Guests

    Xubuntuforums: Online now: 1947 Guests, 54 Members

    Debian: In total there are 25 users online :: 3 Registered, 0 Hidden and 22 Guests

    Slackware: In total there are 6 users online :: 2 registered, 0 hidden and 4 guests

    OzOS: Online now: 7078 Guests, 50 Members

    OpenSUSE: does not publish this info at all to browsers not signed in, if at all?

    PCLinuxOS: 54 Guests, 11 Users (1 Hidden)

    Mandriva: In total there are 241 users online :: 33 Registered, 208 Guests

    CentOS: does not publish this info at all to browsers not signed in, if at all?

    Fedora Forums: Currently Active Users: 3672 (134 members and 3538 guests)

    The variability of time counted is all over the place so you really can't make any conclusive arguments about popularity here, but you can compare registered user to guest for each forum that releases the data...but then again this is distorted by time also.

    I think for the most part there are 3 perspectives on this:

    1. don't release the data to general public, then if times are slow the distro doesn't appear dead or dieing.

    2. set the time longer for a historical perspective, mainly useful for the admins

    3. set the time shorter for a quick snapshot of whose on now, mainly useful to forum users

    all 3 perspectives is decided on by the admins of the particular forum and all 3 are right or wrong depending on perspective.

    That's just my 2 cents

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