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Joeh_B
27th September 2005, 07:59 PM
Hey all,

First of all my name is Joey, im a freshman at the University of Oklahoma majoring in computer science and mathematics. I figured I would get a jump on the game and dive into the linux OS and see if I coudl get some base knowledge before I started into my hardcore CS classes. As of right now I am pretty much square one with Linux. I have very very limited knowledge of MS-DOS, but so far I seem to be doing ok.

Next, I know how it is when people ask questions without showing hardware and giving what information they can, so heres what I can give you to work with

Mobile Athlon 64
1gig of PC 3200 Ram
80 gig Internal Harddrive
Cd-rw/DVD combo drive
ATI Mobility 9550

Running Fedora Core 4 for athlon 64

And on to the problems
1 ) I Wrote a paper for my communications class in OpenOffice.org. Now everytime I log-on to my User account ( the one that is not root ) OpenOffice.org opens at startup, along with gAIM. Both bars, the one on top with applications, places, desktop etc, and the bar at the bottom that shows current programs running and workstations. Both of these bars have dissapeared. I was toying around with it earlier, and as long as I move the bars to an opposite side of the screen and back, they reappear. In either case of the bars, the face that anything loads on startup seems irregular. Any Idea's with this one ?

2 ) I was attempting to watch a compilation movie that I had downloaded, and listen to my .aac (mp4) music files off of my external hard drive. Neither of the drivers seem to be loaded ( the video required .wmv ) in totem player. I searched the forum and was attempting to follow this link http://www.fedoranews.org/tchung/mplayer/
After I ran the Test script it, console said that It could not find Lame-Libs.
I went and googled the file that It said I did not have and it came up with this:
lame-libs-3.95.1-1.athlon.rpm

after setting that up for installation I came up with an error message to the effect of -> Missing XFree86-libs.#####.rpm
-- This is where I believe I messed up, I downloaded this file
XFree86-libs-4.3.0-2.90.60.legacy.i386.rpm
-- and then was told I needed a data file for access so I downloaded the corresponding data file of
XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-2.90.60.legacy.i386.rpm

Once all were installed it continued to give me errors saying that It could not find certain packages. After looking at it, I thought that the legacy package may have had something to do with the errors, so I began hunting down the earlier versions.
--XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-2.90.55.i386.rpm and XFree86-libs-4.3.0-2.90.55.i386.rpm
When I began the installation of those two packages, I recieved yet another error message saying that a newer version of Libs-data was installed.

I decided that I would now come to the forums for alittle help. I planned on just unistalling the packages that said they were downloaded. I searched for an uninstallation guide and came up with http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=60085&highlight=Uninstall+Software
-- I logged into my root account and ran that command, it says no packages qeued for uninstallation and no packages found to uninstall. But when I try to load the previous version of XFree86-libs it says that a newer version is still installed.

3 ) The third point is more of just a question than a problem. The ATI.com website says that it supports drivers for ATI mobility 9555/9600 but to check the websites for laptops. I have tried navigating the GateWay website, but I have not found drivers for the card. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this, that would be excellent also.

Sorry for the Long post, I tried to organize it as well as possible for a straight through fast type. If anyone could help me with any of this, like I said im pretty new =\ Take it easy on me guys, as this is probably much more simple than I can imagine.

And all I wanted to do was watch a movie and listen to music ... haha

~Joey

markkuk
27th September 2005, 08:16 PM
2 ) I was attempting to watch a compilation movie that I had downloaded, and listen to my .aac (mp4) music files off of my external hard drive. Neither of the drivers seem to be loaded ( the video required .wmv ) in totem player. I searched the forum and was attempting to follow this link http://www.fedoranews.org/tchung/mplayer/
After I ran the Test script it, console said that It could not find Lame-Libs.
I went and googled the file that It said I did not have and it came up with this:
lame-libs-3.95.1-1.athlon.rpm

That package is for 32-bit version (AthlonXP), not for your machine. You need x86_64 packages.


after setting that up for installation I came up with an error message to the effect of -> Missing XFree86-libs.#####.rpm
-- This is where I believe I messed up, I downloaded this file
XFree86-libs-4.3.0-2.90.60.legacy.i386.rpm
-- and then was told I needed a data file for access so I downloaded the corresponding data file of
XFree86-libs-data-4.3.0-2.90.60.legacy.i386.rpm

Fedora uses x11-xorg instead of XFreee86. Stop installing random packages that aren't meant for Fedora Core 4 on x86_64! Use yum to install packages from known Fedora package repositories instead.


3 ) The third point is more of just a question than a problem. The ATI.com website says that it supports drivers for ATI mobility 9555/9600 but to check the websites for laptops. I have tried navigating the GateWay website, but I have not found drivers for the card. If anyone could point me in the right direction for this, that would be excellent also.
Use yum to install the ATI drivers from livna.org (http://rpm.livna.org/). Follow the instructions from Fedora FAQ (http://www.fedorafaq.org/#radeon).

Joeh_B
27th September 2005, 09:25 PM
Ok I just completed the YUM install, and then ran the generic "yum update" through root. The FAQ was very helpful. The ATI drivers went in nice and smooth. Its amazing how much easier it is when you do the right thing.

Unfortunately after I installed the totem plugins from the same FAQ page, I still got this error
Totem could not play 'file:///media/WD_USB_2/iTunes/JENOVA - Advent Children.mp3'. : There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/WD_USB_2/iTunes/JENOVA%20-%20Advent%20Children.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins

and OpenOffice.org still opens on startup, along with gaim. Any ideas on how to fix this ?

Thanks for your help !

~Joey

tomcat
28th September 2005, 12:07 AM
When you shutdown the system, you click on "system → shutdown". The appearing dialog box has a check box for saving the current settings. Close all apps, check that box and log out. Then restart your Gnome session. The programs should "basically" not load anymore on startup. If they still do, we will take a closer look at what you "messed up".

Have you followed all the information in the FedoraFAQ for setting up mp3 support? You might need to install some "patched" version of totem (I think it's totem-xine... sorry, I use mplayer only. :P).

Joeh_B
28th September 2005, 12:34 AM
When you shutdown the system, you click on "system → shutdown". The appearing dialog box has a check box for saving the current settings. Close all apps, check that box and log out. Then restart your Gnome session. The programs should "basically" not load anymore on startup. If they still do, we will take a closer look at what you "messed up".

Have you followed all the information in the FedoraFAQ for setting up mp3 support? You might need to install some "patched" version of totem (I think it's totem-xine... sorry, I use mplayer only. :P).

The system -> shutdown worked flawlessly. I cannot believe I failed to think about that.

I went through the "yum installer" for totem, and this is the error message when I try and play an mp3 file:
Totem could not play 'file:///home/Joey/Temp/PennyBurned.wmv'.

There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/Joey/Temp/PennyBurned.wmv", you might need to install the corresponding plugins

-- Any other ideas ? Thanks again for all the help, I would be COMPLETELY lost without you guys

~Joey

jtang613
28th September 2005, 12:38 AM
Good to see another new Linux user. Knowledge of the Linux operating system is essential in any CS program. And as soon as you master C/C++, you'll be able to have lots of fun hacking it - making kernel modules, device drivers, network protocols, file systems and all sorts of other cool stuff.

There will be a few growing pains as you learn the ins and outs of how Linux works - you'll probably break your installation more than once before you get things just right. That's a sign that you're learning ;)

My advice: make regular backups of all your important data. And always keep your /home on a separate partition from the / (root) directory.


Ok I just completed the YUM install, and then ran the generic "yum update" through root. The FAQ was very helpful. The ATI drivers went in nice and smooth. Its amazing how much easier it is when you do the right thing.
More helpful resources:
http://www.linuxcommand.org/
http://www.tldp.org
http://evolutioncolt.com/fedoraguide/
http://www.fedorafaq.org/
http://fedoranews.org/
http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/#Linux%20Main
http://www.brennan.id.au/
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/



and OpenOffice.org still opens on startup, along with gaim. Any ideas on how to fix this ?

Thanks for your help !

~Joey
Another way of correcting this is to use the "Desktop Menu -> Preferences -> Sessions" tool.

jtang613
28th September 2005, 12:48 AM
I went through the "yum installer" for totem, and this is the error message when I try and play an mp3 file:
Totem could not play 'file:///home/Joey/Temp/PennyBurned.wmv'.

There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/Joey/Temp/PennyBurned.wmv", you might need to install the corresponding plugins

-- Any other ideas ? Thanks again for all the help, I would be COMPLETELY lost without you guys

~Joey
Try:

yum install gstreamer-plugins-extra-* w32codec
or if that fails, remove Totem and install Totem-xine. Basically, it's Totem using a different set of backend libraries.

yum remove totem
yum install totem-xine

If yum has trouble finding some of these, then you may need to do a little searching on how to set up the 'yum repos'. Try searching the forum for 'yumfix.txt'.

Jason

Joeh_B
28th September 2005, 01:20 AM
Try:

yum install gstreamer-plugins-extra-* w32codec
or if that fails, remove Totem and install Totem-xine. Basically, it's Totem using a different set of backend libraries.

yum remove totem
yum install totem-xine

If yum has trouble finding some of these, then you may need to do a little searching on how to set up the 'yum repos'. Try searching the forum for 'yumfix.txt'.

Jason

This worked for playing my mp3's thank you very sir :D

Thanks again for all your help guys, im sure you will be seeing much more of me around here in the not so distant future :P

~Joey