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jeb3121
13th August 2017, 10:37 AM
Hi all,

My use of a computer(desktop 8~) is basic, i.e., email, online info sources, online purchases. As a result I find myself stumbling in unknowns attempting to follow comments of those who are far beyond my level of expertise.

I have Fedora 24 64 bit WS and I’m looking at 26. I read the Fed install instructions “Install via DNF if you are already on Fedora.” Checking DNF I find it replaces YUM on the command line.

Then: “Fedora Workstation is provided via Fedora Media Writer. Download this program via the download link above and run it on your system, following the prompts to generate a live version of Fedora Workstation on a USB flash drive. You may then run the live version of Fedora Workstation from your USB flash drive.”

BTW, I remember having to run a check on F24 to be sure the dl was error-free. Is that no longer necessary?

Do the above instructions lead to a dl of Fed 26 WS to the home drive at which point I go to command line, specify the location and DNF the live version to my brand new 16GB Kingston flash drive? If so what are the commands? I prefer ignorant to stupid, eh?

Any help w/be gratefully accepted
jeb

antikythera
13th August 2017, 10:52 AM
hi, if you want to do an upgrade rather than a clean install please follow this wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade). hopefully it explains the process clearly enough for you. For step 4, ignore the information about importing the GPG key for rawhide.

If you get stuck or need any further help please post any questions in this thread and someone will happily answer.

jeb3121
13th August 2017, 11:59 PM
Hi antikythera,

I took your advice and got all the way to "sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot" where it asked me for the root password.

I haven't needed to use root since I installed 24; the record of the password is gone. :doh:

Over time my system has evolved to the use of external hard drives for data. The only integral data I need to save during live OS install is for my email and browser.

So now I'm back to this question. Do the above instructions lead to a dl of Fed 26 WS to the home drive at which point I go to command line, specify the location and DNF the live version to my brand new 16GB Kingston flash drive? If so what are the commands?

Most important is, will I need the lost root password somewhere during this process?

If so, is formatting the home drive the next step?

Curious and embarassed
jeb

dd_wizard
14th August 2017, 12:10 AM
The guide I posted didn't work in Fedora. Looking some more.

This Fedora guide (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_reset_a_root_password) is more complicated, but it should work.

dd_wizard

antikythera
14th August 2017, 08:53 AM
@jeb, no the above upgrades what you already have installed.

if you want to install a brand new version to the new flash drive (without the need for any existing passwords) you do need to download an ISO instead.

you can use the media writer (https://fedoramagazine.org/make-fedora-usb-stick/) to download, verify and flash the live bootable ISO to USB (not an actual installation you can use to save files to) or write to DVD. after this is done, you would then proceed with an installation using that written media. make a backup copy of your /home partition before doing anything else if you didn't already do it while following the dnf system upgrade guide.

sudo shouldn't normally cause you to be asked for the root password, so something odd is going on there. it's normally authorised with your own account password. if the command was su instead of sudo, I could understand as that is a root account invoking command.

jeb3121
14th August 2017, 03:15 PM
Hi, antikythera;1792430

if you want to install a brand new version to the new flash drive (without the need for any existing passwords) you do need to download an ISO instead.

you can use the media writer (https://fedoramagazine.org/make-fedora-usb-stick/) to download, verify and flash the live bootable ISO to USB (not an actual installation you can use to save files to) or write to DVD. after this is done, you would then proceed with an installation using that written media. make a backup copy of your /home partition before doing anything else if you didn't already do it while following the dnf system upgrade guide.

sudo shouldn't normally cause you to be asked for the root password, so something odd is going on there. it's normally authorised with your own account password. if the command was su instead of sudo, I could understand as that is a root account invoking command.[/QUOTE]

I went thru to media writer where I found that the Fedora Workstation available is version 25.

Is it a case of the blurb not up to date or the link? I imagine with the new ownership/management emphasis details can be overlooked for a while. :)

jeb

antikythera
14th August 2017, 03:27 PM
it's just a tutorial written some time ago for the fedoramagazine site. the same method applies though. when you load the media writer it will give the option to download fedora 26

bob
14th August 2017, 03:41 PM
I imagine with the new ownership/management emphasis details can be overlooked for a while. :)
Jeb, we're not connected to FedoraProject. Our changes have nothing to do with their wiki if that's what you were referring to. OR...did FedoraProject become a part of Microsoft??? (Nobody tells me nuthin') :D

antikythera
14th August 2017, 03:43 PM
worse, oswald cobblepot is in charge now

jeb3121
15th August 2017, 01:10 AM
oswald cobblepot

I'm curious about the geographic origin of the name and the picture it brings to mind. ;)

jeb

jeb3121
15th August 2017, 01:45 AM
antikythera told me:

"if you want to install a brand new version to the new flash drive (without the need for any existing passwords) you do need to download an ISO instead.

you can use the media writer (https://fedoramagazine.org/make-fedora-usb-stick/) to download, verify and flash the live bootable ISO to USB (not an actual installation you can use to save files to) or write to DVD. after this is done, you would then proceed with an installation using that written media."

I've d/l media writer but, being unfamiliar with command line, haven't been able to bring it up.

I would really appreciate it if someone would provide me with commands from start to finish with a live usb stick.

This time I plan to save commands/instructions and the root password; no more :doh:

Jeb

antikythera
15th August 2017, 08:08 AM
Oswald Cobblepot is The Penguin from Batman

rather than copying and pasting here, please read the instructions provided in the fedora documentation about how to proceed. we don't normally do 'read the manual' posts on this forum but in this case it is a very well laid out document that explains everything step by step which is what you are after. you can save them as html, epub or pdf. so if you have a tablet handy or a smartphone you can have them open while you work on the pc:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/26/html/Installation_Guide/sect-preparing-boot-media.html

refer to Procedure 3.4. Creating USB Media with Fedora Media Writer on Fedora 24 and later onwards

jeb3121
4th September 2017, 03:05 AM
hi, if you want to do an upgrade rather than a clean install please follow this wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade). hopefully it explains the process clearly enough for you. For step 4, ignore the information about importing the GPG key for rawhide.

If you get stuck or need any further help please post any questions in this thread and someone will happily answer.

After not reaching the above finish line and then stumbling at the media writer start, I reinstalled 24 with a more memorable root password in both boxes.

Going through the wiki, I now have 26 in each. Most of the time it took came after root was invoked.

Thanks to all as well.

Now if I can find "Solved," eh?

Jeb

antikythera
4th September 2017, 08:41 AM
For future reference, mark thread as solved is in the thread tools at the top of the thread view on any page of it