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24th August 2014, 01:20 AM
I am starting a new thread on Five Things to Fedora (for the sake of clarity). :)

Reposted from <http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-08-19/>.

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series
highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It
isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to
each. Here are the five things for August 19th, 2014 (actually posted on
the 22nd, because sometimes life is like that):


You may have noticed that this nominally-Tuesday update is actually
appearing on *Friday*. That’s because I’m at LinuxCon North America in
Chicago, and I kept thinking "I’ll have a few minutes to work on that…"
and it turns out, nope.

In any case, a lot of cool stuff going on here, and a lot of Fedora
positivity. My talk on Fedora.next was well-attended and (I think!)
well-received, with a lot of good questions and feedback. There were
also some great related sessions, including Joe Brockmeier’s talk about
Project Atomic (with a Fedora-based live demo), and in general a *lot*
of Fedora users all around.

* http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america
* http://sched.co/1jQoySF
* http://sched.co/1tFUtL4

Fedora Governance and Leadership Structure

I mentioned last week that there was a session on the future of Fedora
governance and leadership at our big Flock conference. As noted last
week, Flock is great for high-bandwidth discussion but not the right
place to actually make decisions, because we can’t possibly get all of
the community in one place (as much as I’d like to!). So, now, there’s
an important followup discussion on the board-discuss list. This
affects us all, so *your* participation is important.

* http://flock2014.sched.org/event/9d2f47d741d92f1ddf559bb918dcb2d1#.U_dZeUSzC2c
* http://flocktofedora.org/
* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/board-discuss/2014-August/012712.html
* https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss

Fedora "Design.next" Activity Day

The Fedora Design Team is organizing a Fedora Activity Day (which we
casually call a "FAD") for January 2015. See the FAD wiki page and
mailing list thread for details. It will be held at the Red Hat
headquarters near Boston, Massachusetts, and as as with all Premier
Fedora Events some travel funding may be available as needed. The
Design Team is an awesome, friendly group with an easy join process,
and if you’d like to get involved and help design the visual and user
experience future of the Fedora, now’s a great time.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2014-August/006884.html
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Premier_Fedora_Events
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Design_Team

Fedora 21 Alpha Freeze: Any minute now!

Fedora Release Engineering is still working out some kinks in the
process, and dealing with a mass rebuild required by a glibc
compatibility break, but we expect to have that settled *really soon
now*. That means that we’ll go into Alpha Freeze as soon as a test
compose is available. (You may see people referring to a "TC" — that’s
what we’re talking about.) All of this will be announced to the
devel-announce mailing list, (which you should be subscribed to if
you’re interested in following this sort of thing, even if you’re not a
Fedora developer).

* https://lwn.net/Articles/605607/
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Alpha_Milestone
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_compose_request#Test_composes
* https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

Fedora in Linux Pro Magazine

Last week, we noted the Free from XP special edition from Linux New
Media, featuring Fedora. Fedora *also* features in Linux Pro Magazine’s
Issue #166, with articles on the Cinnamon and Mate desktops
environments, and the Fedora Robotics Suite included on the DVD. This
is available for order online now and should be in stores soon.

* http://fedoramagazine.org/free-from-xp-with-fedora/
* http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Issues/2014/166
* https://spins.fedoraproject.org/robotics/

Vacation Next Week

I’ll be on vacation next week (and largely offline — time for a break
after a month of travel and conferences!). Since this "Tuesday" update
is running at the end of the week anyway, I think we’ll just have a
5tFTW hiatus, and I’ll update on *all of the things* in early

26th September 2014, 10:03 PM
Next (after missing some) installment of Five Things in Fedora -

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for September 18th, 2014:

Fedora 21 Alpha Release!

Of course, this week’s big news is the release of Fedora 21 Alpha — the first formal test release on the way to an early-December final release. This will be our first release with distinct Cloud, Server, and Workstation products — a first phase of Fedora.next. Read the F21 Alpha release announcement, and download the flavor you’re interested in (or launch the cloud image in EC2).

A gigantic thank you and congratulations to all of the Fedora contributors who made this happen!

Shellshock and Fedora

And then, this is our other big news. By now, this has been well-covered everywhere, but if you haven’t seen it yet, check out articles tagged shellshock on Fedora Magazine to keep your system safe.

If you’re curious, read my Shellshock: How does it actually work? article, where I attempt to give a satisfying level of detail in a way that anyone can understand. Also, the Red Hat security blog has a nice post-incident FAQ, with a lot of other background and information, and explains the reasoning behind the patch Red Hat developed (which is the one we are using in Fedora).

You might also be interested Dan Walsh’s blog entry on how SELinux helps contain this attack — it’s not perfect, but when an exploit is in the wild, it’s important to have meaningful layers of protection.

And! I’ll be live on the Linux Action Show this Sunday, talking about Shellshock and other things.

In Which Adam Fixes Everything

Fedora QA Community Monkey (no, really, that’s his title) Adam Williamson apparently does not need to sleep, and in the midst of all of the Shellshock fun, spent about 36 hours straight cleaning up some of the documentation in the Fedora wiki around our release schedule and process. Some of this is only of interest if you’re deeply involved in Fedora development or QA, but if you’re following Fedora prereleases (like the alpha!) — and possibly if you have been confused previously — it’s all a lot better now, with more consistent names and documentation that actually reflects reality. Take a look at


and about three dozen interlinked pages which are now all nicely consistent and much more beautiful than they were before. This is a great example of how “just do it!” works in wikis and open source in general — some discussion on IRC and mailing lists, but no waiting to act. Thanks to Adam for seeing a mess and making it better!

Flock Possibilities

Flock (our big annual contributor conference) will be held in North America next summer — but where? We have four bids, all in the United States:

Salt Lake City, Utah
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Rochester, New York
Cape Cod, Massachusetts

The Flock planning team is working on putting together a side-by-side feature and cost comparison, and will soon be running a straw poll to find the preferences of potential attendees.
Robyn on Distros and DevOps — and User Communication

Former Fedora Project Leader Robyn Bergeron has an interesting blog post about “distros and silos, devops and open source“. She talks about several things (all worth reading), but one of the most interesting is the suggestion she floats for a User Committee. What do you think? Would a Fedora User Committee help improve our communication and break down silos?

29th September 2014, 02:45 PM
I am very much in favour of a user community. Fedora, as it now is seen, is a top-down managed distribution. All the priorities of RedHat are established, scheduled and implemented, and the need or nice to have from end-users are implemented "if time permits". I could see users offering important suggestions. Users are in the trenches, know what Fedora requires, while management are the head-office officers who are behind the lines. Where do we put our wish list?
It would be nice if we could provide Fedora Specific input to Gnome via this forum.

It would be great if the various forums www.fedoraform.org, http://forums.fedora-fr.org, linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35 and the other forums had a section titled "Fedora User Wish List."

As an off-topic idea. We could have the return of that welcome message that used to appear on the logon screen. We could have .... oh never mind, just wasting my time...,

3rd October 2014, 06:36 PM
Thread Clean-up. Previous comments not related to the topic...

8th October 2014, 01:51 AM
Next edition of Five Things in Fedora this week from the current FPL

Reposted from <http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-10-07/>.

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to keep up with everything that
goes on. This series highlights interesting happenings in five
different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just
quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for
October 7th, 2014:

Fedora Project Board finalizes Fedora Council

The Fedora Board and others in the community have been working on a
proposal to rearrange the highest level of project governance and
leadership. As board member John Rose notes in a message sent to
several key mailing lists, “the primary motivation in doing this is to
create a system of governance that includes a much more active
leadership responsibility”. This proposal is now in its final draft,
and the Board will be voting this week on whether to adopt it or go
back to the drawing board. You can read it at

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MatthewMiller/council-draft

If you have any comments or questions, I’d love to discuss!

* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/203141.html

Flock 2015 locations narrowed down to NY or CO

Short story: while all of the bids are great, last week’s survey
indicates that Rochester and Colorado Springs are the leading options.
Flock organizer Ruth Suehle breaks down the details in a post on the
Flock planning list, and notes that the Flock planning team will be
working on cost analysis and choosing final dates for next summer’s big
Flock to Fedora contributor conference.

* http://fedoramagazine.org/flock-2015-bids-are-in-choose-between-cape-cod-rochester-colorado-springs-or-salt-lake-city/
* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/flock-planning/2014-October/000579.html
* http://flocktofedora.org/

What’s coming in Workstation

Christian Schaller blogs about progress on Fedora Workstation,
noting specifically progress on Wayland (a new display technology that
hopes eventually to be the successor to X11), new upstream Human
Interface Guidelines, and the improved software installation GUI.
Christian concludes:

> [...] as we go towards Fedora Workstation 22 the pace of innovation
> and progress will only pick up. So great things are ahead and I hope
> that once Fedora Workstation 21 is released regardless of if you are
> a long time Fedora users, a lapsed former Fedora users or someone who
> has never tried Fedora before you will be willing to give it a try
> and hopefully become as excited about it as we are.

* http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2014/10/02/fedora-workstation-progress-report-wayland-and-more/

Testing Fedora 21 in Rackspace Cloud

Interested in trying the Fedora 21 alpha (and upcoming beta) but aren’t
ready to put it on your own hardware? Fedora contributor and Rackspace
hacker Major Hayden posted an Ansible playbook which converts a
Fedora 20 instance running on Rackspace Cloud into a Fedora 21 test
system. Cool!

* https://github.com/major/ansible-rax-fedora21

Rawhide: getting better all the time

Fedora Infrastructure team lead (and FESCo member, and many many other
roles in Fedora) Kevin Fenzi posted This week in rawhide, the early
October edition. Rawhide is the always-changing development branch
that runs ahead of even the alpha and beta releases — so right now, it’s
a long-removed preview of next year’s Fedora 22. Kevin notes some
important changes in the works, including signed packages (currently,
only the packages in the release branches are signed), and the goal of
making “test composes” every night. Currently, test composes are kicked
off by Release Engineering manually, and every six months there seems to
have been enough change that the process needs tweaking, sometimes
leading to delays. Having that be continuous will make sure we’re always
ready to go and is a big step forward towards more agile distribution

* http://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2014/10/03/this-week-in-rawhide-the-early-october-edition/

21st October 2014, 03:04 AM
Reposted from <http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-10-17/>.

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to keep up with everything that
goes on. This series highlights interesting happenings in five
different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just
quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for
October 17th, 2014:

Introducing the Fedora Council

Last week, the Fedora Project Board unanimously approved its
replacement, a new top-level leadership and governance body we’re
calling the *Fedora Council*. Read more about it in John Rose’s
announcement message, and our previous Fedora Magazine article about
upcoming elections.

This didn’t happen overnight — Christoph Wickert, Toshio Kuratomi, Josh
Boyer, and others have been talking about this and working on related
proposals for the last couple of years, and Toshio and Haïkel Guémar
led a great session at Flock — Fedora’s big annual planning conference
— this August. We’ve been thinking about and discussing what to do ever
since, and now it’s time to put the result into action!

* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board
* http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-governance-proposal-approved/
* http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-council-elections-coming-soon/
* http://flock2014.sched.org/event/9d2f47d741d92f1ddf559bb918dcb2d1

Translation team switches to Zanata

Fedora’s L10N team — the *L-10-N* is short for localization, because
there are 10 missing letters there — does an amazing job of translating
our software to dozens of different languages. (If you’re a Fedora user
who speaks a language other than English, this is a great and fun way
to get involved, by the way — see the steps to join in the Fedora
Localization Guide.)

All of this work is accomplished using some specialized tools. For a
long time, Fedora has used Transifex, a project by Dimitris Glezos
which actually grew out of Fedora. Unfortunately, recent versions of
Transifex are not open source. As a project, we always prefer to work
with open source tools whenever possible, and the L10N team started a
project to migrate to a different and completely free and open source
tool, Zanata.

Last week, all translation teams for different languages discussed and
voted whether to move ahead with this, and the result was 19 “Go” votes
and none against. With the active contributor community overwhelmingly
in favor, it’s an easy decision to go forward, and according to the
plan, the new “stage 1″ service should be live any day now.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide
* https://www.transifex.com/
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata
* http://zanata.org/
* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2014-October/011635.html

FUDCon Managua 2015

This year’s FUDCon — that’s Fedora User and Developer Conference — in
Latin America will in in Managua, Nicaragua next week. Organizer
Neville Cross tipped off 5tFTW with a few particularly interesting

- Robotics will rock FUDCon: Valentin Basel will present on a
Fedora-based robot, and lead a session on building from parts.
(See this video from FUDCon Panamá 2011.)

- Small computers will be big: the FUDCon team is bringing
Raspberry Pi and Arduino boards to demonstrate.

- FUDCon on TV: The Fedora revolution *will* be televised!

* http://roadtofudconlatam.org/robotic-will-rock-fudcon/
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Q9aMywkg8
* http://roadtofudconlatam.org/small-computers-will-be-big-at-fudcon/
* http://roadtofudconlatam.org/fudcon-and-fedora-on-tv/

New QA Automation framework goes live

As I’m sure everyone knows by now, the Fedora 21 cycle has been one of
our longest ever. We did this on purpose, and one of the primary
reasons was to give our Quality Assurance team time to work on tooling
and infrastructure rather than just cycling through tests over and
over. This has borne fruit, and our new QA automation framework
Taskotron has gone live, replacing AutoQA] for checks on package

Right now, the effect on end users and developers is very small, but
the change will enable many more important features in the near future,
including user-submitted tests to run automatically. This will
increasingly offload repetitive testing tasks so that humans time can
be focused where it’s most valuable, resulting in an even better Fedora
going forward.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron
* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-October/123327.html

Upgraded Retrace Server includes CentOS collaboration

This is another infrastructure thing which sounds kind like it might be
boring but which also will pay off in a better, more bug-free Fedora.
The Retrace/ABRT Server debugging tool which generates useful
information from automated crash reports. This has been upgraded with
newer hardware, enabling a few changes which directly benefit Fedora
developers and users.

First, if a package is updated and the same crash doesn’t occur for two
weeks, those issues are automatically closed, reducing bug noise and
overload. Second, these reports are now cross-referenced with those
from CentOS 7, allowing us to collaborate on debugging and fixing
problems And third, it is, of course, much, much faster.

* https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/203371.html

7th November 2014, 04:06 AM
Reposted from <http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-11-05/>.

Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to keep up with everything that
goes on. This series highlights interesting happenings in five
different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just
quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for
November 5th, 2014:

How to get the Fedora 21 beta

The Fedora 21 Beta went live yesterday, and you can get it from the
prerelease download page at <http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease>.
This includes all the new Fedora.next variants, ARM images, and Spins,
like the KDE and Xfce desktops.

You can also grab Live images and the Fedora Server installer via
BitTorrent. Either way, while you’re waiting for it to download, read
the release announcement and peruse known issues.

* http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease
* http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Beta_release_announcement
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs

Upgrading to F21 with FedUp

FedUp — the _Fed_ora _Up_grader — is our recommended tool to go
(relatively seamlessly) from one release to the next. Due to a
late-discovered issue, this isn’t currently available for the beta. See
this bit on the Common Bugs page for details. We will be producing test
`upgrade.img` files as part of the lead-up to F21 final, and *would*
appreciate testing of those when they’re ready.

* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs#FedUp_upgrade_to_Fedora_21_Beta_fa ils_.28no_upgrade.img_images.29

Fedora Cloud

The Fedora Cloud release for F21 comes in two sub-variants of its own.
The first is the Fedora Cloud Base Image, which you can download for
use in OpenStack or launch directly in Amazon EC2. This is our more
traditional choice — a minimal selection of RPMs plus cloud-init for
boot-time configuration.

We also have Fedora Atomic, an image built around the Project Atomic
design patterns. (Flashback to Colin Walters’ talk at Fedora Day at
DevConf.cz last February, which kind of kicked this all off.) Atomic
upstream is moving really fast, and for this reason, Fedora Atomic is
kind of a preview in Fedora 21, and actually some of the things we want
in for the final release, like the Kubernetes orchestration engine,
weren’t quite ready for the beta cutoff. So, the Cloud Working Group is
planning to have some post-beta, pre-final test images in the next week
or so to give a better look at what Fedora Atomic will look like — stay

* http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/21-Beta/Cloud/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Cloud-Base-20141029-21_Beta.x86_64.qcow2
* https://console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/v2/home?region=us-east-1#LaunchInstanceWizard:ami=ami-fa3dbf92
* http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
* http://www.projectatomic.io/
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0ZEHPXJ9Q&t=170
* http://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/red-hat-and-google-collaborate-kubernetes-manage-docker-containers-scale

Fedora Server

Fedora Server is all about providing easy-to-deploy application stacks
which run on a common base. This is done through a service called
RoleKit, and a command-line tool `rolectl` plus an API which you can
integrate with your configuration management tools. For more on this,
see our coverage of Stephen Gallagher’s Flock presentation, or install
the beta and go right to setting up a Domain Controller in just a few

* http://fedoramagazine.org/flock-2014-day-2-fedora-server-role-ing-along/
* https://fedorahosted.org/rolekit/wiki/DomainController

Fedora Workstation

And finally, Fedora Workstation is our desktop / laptop system targeted
at software developers — not just those of us working on Fedora, but
everyone out there building applications and services. One key feature
is DevAssistant, a tool for easy setup and management of project
environments. Like much of Fedora 21, this is under heavy development,
and we’d love your input on making this more useful for *your* daily

F21 Workstation also features a preview of next-generation graphics
stack Wayland. This does not sound particularly developer-focused at
first glance, but is actually really important for features software
developers have told us matter to them, like better multi-monitor
support. As we continue with Fedora.next, expect to see a lot of
other fundamental improvements like this, based on needs gathered from
feedback we receive.

* http://devassistant.org/
* http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
* http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTA5Mg

Last one for this thread. After this I will make a new one. :D