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Nikolai D.
24th May 2013, 10:05 PM
Hi there,

Is there any way to install Unity on Fedora 18?

p.s. And also is there somethig other available which looks kinda like Unity/Gnome (upper menu/notifications/bar, some dock) but is lighter?

thx
Nikolai

Demz3
25th May 2013, 12:05 AM
Hi there,

Is there any way to install Unity on Fedora 18?

p.s. And also is there somethig other available which looks kinda like Unity/Gnome (upper menu/notifications/bar, some dock) but is lighter?

thx
Nikolai

there is no Unity in Fedora, stay with Crapuntu for that. use Gnome-shell since thats bout as close to Unity as your gonna get in Fedoa .

if you want something lighter, use LXDE

LinuxNerd
25th May 2013, 02:45 AM
Well, Unity was available in F17, but it's no longer available, as it's pretty much Ubuntu-exclusive now. However Xfce, MATE, and Cinnamon are pretty awesome. :D

Nikolai D.
25th May 2013, 09:21 AM
there is no Unity in Fedora, stay with Crapuntu for that. use Gnome-shell since thats bout as close to Unity as your gonna get in Fedoa .

if you want something lighter, use LXDE

Yes Gnome 3 indeed is the closest I can get to Unity. This is also why this is the second what I use after Unity. Its just so that I kinda little bit got bored of its dark theme which I tried to customize using tweak tool. But it kinda didn't really change the darkish appearance of the upper panel. And also I would actually prefer to have the dock icons be visible at all times. Not having to go to the corner for that. But I was wondering what's up with the hating? You know criticizing someone else doesn't really makes you better at all. I mean I'm happy to learn both systems.

BBQdave
25th May 2013, 03:38 PM
...darkish appearance of the upper panel. And also I would actually prefer to have the dock icons be visible at all times. Not having to go to the corner for that.

I know what you are saying - I really dig the grey Adwaita theme of Gnome 3. Unity's default theme, to me, seems heavy with the colors and overall is too dark.

If you do try Gnome 3 and use it for awhile, be careful - you get hooked and expect moving the mouse to the upper left will bring everything up :)

And I really like the multi-desktop approach of Gnome 3 - desktops expand as you need them. Plus hitting the Super Key - to bring everything up.

As far as the style of desktop that Gnome 3 is, I think it flows better than Unity. So again, be careful, if you use Gnome 3 too long - you will get hooked, and want to only use Gnome 3 :D

nonamedotc
25th May 2013, 05:14 PM
Yes Gnome 3 indeed is the closest I can get to Unity. This is also why this is the second what I use after Unity. Its just so that I kinda little bit got bored of its dark theme which I tried to customize using tweak tool. But it kinda didn't really change the darkish appearance of the upper panel. And also I would actually prefer to have the dock icons be visible at all times. Not having to go to the corner for that. But I was wondering what's up with the hating? You know criticizing someone else doesn't really makes you better at all. I mean I'm happy to learn both systems.

I think what you are after is the Zukitwo like bright themes! :)

I think instead of using tweak tool you can take a look at these themes -

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Gela-300578573

http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Nord-214295138

http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/Zukitwo-203936861 (Designed for GNOME 3.8 - might give it a try though!)

As for the dock, you might want to check if there are any extensions that would do it for you.

Hope this helps.

Gareth Jones
25th May 2013, 10:46 PM
As things stand, it seems quite unlikely that Unity will ever be available in Fedora, or any other distribution which isn’t Ubuntu-based. It requires several other packages to have custom patches applied (which haven’t been or won’t be accepted by the up-stream developers of those packages). Future versions are looking even more problematic, as Canonical have decided to use their own display server, Mir, instead of the current standard (X) or the likely future standard (Wayland).

There are extensions for GNOME which make it more Unity-like (see https://extensions.gnome.org/). I’m not aware of anything more “light-weight” that provides a similar experience.

LinuxNerd
26th May 2013, 07:24 PM
As things stand, it seems quite unlikely that Unity will ever be available in Fedora, or any other distribution which isn’t Ubuntu-based. It requires several other packages to have custom patches applied (which haven’t been or won’t be accepted by the up-stream developers of those packages). Future versions are looking even more problematic, as Canonical have decided to use their own display server, Mir, instead of the current standard (X) or the likely future standard (Wayland).

There are extensions for GNOME which make it more Unity-like (see https://extensions.gnome.org/). I’m not aware of anything more “light-weight” that provides a similar experience.

I think there's global menus for Xfce, and if you put a launcher on the bottom, you can make it Mac-like, but it still won't be Unity-like.

solo2101
26th May 2013, 10:07 PM
If you are looking for dock i use AWN, is not in the repos anymore but you can still get it...
Gnome
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/picture.php?albumid=296&pictureid=1256
Mate
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/album.php?albumid=296&pictureid=1319

Gareth Jones
26th May 2013, 10:51 PM
AWN, Docky and CairoDock used to be the popular docks. I’ve no idea which is best or even which are still actively maintained, but there’re some names to search for.

joncr
26th May 2013, 11:15 PM
AWN, Docky and CairoDock used to be the popular docks...

Plank is a nice dock from the Docky folks. Pretty much bling free.

At the moment, the best dock I know of is the DashToDock extension for Gnome Shell.

sea
26th May 2013, 11:18 PM
If you want to tweak a light WM (NOT a DE!) and know a bit (or are not afraid to get in touch with) LUA i'd suggest Awesome (http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/thm/awesome/).
LXDE is my personal favorite out of the standard repos, XFCE would be #2.

hth

Nikolai D.
27th May 2013, 12:25 AM
On the topic of making gnome shell more unity like I will indeed take a look at extemtions. When im back at work behind the fedora box. And maybe even at some alternative dock. Because actually I already used some dock on the left side of the screen before gnome 2 became gnome shell and unity.

And what concerns the lighter something. Which i want to put on my netbook. Unity was almost ok, only i wanted also to run one xp vm for some win specific tinkering/testing. And i feel me more home on a lighter somewhat slower linux system with xp in a vm then on a pure xp.
Well a good old friend and present colleague of me suggested me to take a look at crunchbang. And looking at description and reviews/reputation on the net it seems to me like something what is right. But I'm not directly willing to go directly for open box. Basically the mostly normal choice for me or which I like if you are looking for just a tiny little bit lighter GUI then gnome is xfce. Sounds obviously to me. And I also have taken a look at Xubuntu as a whole. And as a whole package which is somewhat more lightweight optimized then normal ubuntu/fedora this looks to me like the right thing to look at. Especially I like very much visual similarity with gnome shell/unity in the sense of having upper panel with menu/tray/notifications.

The only little thing that I'm not yet 100% satisfied with is this. Being a lazy IT guy I prefer to have everything out of the box. Also thinking maybe about being able to advice someone the is I'm currently using. So for example on my home notebook I use Super OS (ubuntu based) which has already all multimedia Skype etc etc preinstalled.And not changing the GUI, which Mint does, and I don't like. Then on a work laptop I use Russian Fedora Remix which has all the multimedia and java flash and Skype preinstalled to. And on a Netbook I used easypeasy which had all that reinstalled to. But its outdated now. And the last beta version uses gnome shell (still have to check it I think). Which is not that lightweight anymore I guess.

So anyone knows any Xubuntu based distro with all the multimedia prepackaged, but not to altered interface?
I also tried MeeGo and surprisingly liked it pretty much. But didn't find the virtual box for it. :D

sonoran
27th May 2013, 12:33 AM
As things stand, it seems quite unlikely that Unity will ever be available in Fedora, or any other distribution which isn’t Ubuntu-based.

Unity has been ported to Arch. I have no idea how well it works.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125423&p=1

Nikolai D.
27th May 2013, 09:31 AM
I think what you are after is the Zukitwo like bright themes! :)

I think instead of using tweak tool you can take a look at these themes -

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Gela-300578573

http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Nord-214295138

http://0rax0.deviantart.com/art/Zukitwo-203936861 (Designed for GNOME 3.8 - might give it a try though!)

As for the dock, you might want to check if there are any extensions that would do it for you.

Hope this helps.

They sure look nice. But cmon there are even no instructions on how to install them. Why if i change theme in a tweak tool to a lighter one the upper bar still stays dark?
I never really liked themes from the deviantart cuz i dont see instructions on how to install them.

Nikolai D.
27th May 2013, 10:41 AM
Ok this is awesome, dash to dock extension is awesome :D One problem fixed. Now the upper panel colour. Haven't fixed that yet.

nonamedotc
27th May 2013, 04:09 PM
Typically, you can uncompress the archives and move the resulting folder to ~/.themes. Opening tweak tool after that should let you select the newly installed theme. Of course, it would depend on how well the theme authors has followed the GNOME requirements. I do not have GNOME installed currently, but I will see if I can check out some theme and post how to change the upper panel color if I figure it out! :)

For example, take a look at the theme Gela. If you unzip the folder, you will get "Gela 3.4" folder. Move this to ~/.themes and you should already be able to select this theme from gnome-tweak-tool.

nonamedotc
27th May 2013, 04:36 PM
O.K. Here is some more information. I have attached two screenshots. One is using the theme Gala (white panel color and black text) and the other one is default theme with white color.

The second screenshot also shows how exactly I changed the color of the top panel on the default theme Adwaita. Take a look at the gedit window in the screenshot. of course, I did not bother changing the colour of the text. If you dig that CSS file, you might be able to fix that issue as well.

A word of caution - I did this on Debian 7.0 which runs GNOME 3.4. I was using GNOME 3.4 and am familiar with it. While things might be a bit different with 3.6, changing the color of the top panel might still be the same.

Hope this helps. Cheers.