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DanMachado
2nd July 2010, 05:58 PM
Hi everyone!

After uninstalling some applications from fedora 12 the cpu temperature is hotter that is was before I uninstalled such applications. Do not ask me which applications because I do not remember, I just uninstalled most of the things that (that I thought) did not represent a threat to the system... Obviously something went wrong :(


Regards.

Dan

teraquad
2nd July 2010, 06:05 PM
Have you changed screen savers? I have noticed that they give the cpu a workout and The temp. is up when i come back to the machine.

Hlingler
2nd July 2010, 06:08 PM
Do not ask me which applications because I do not remember, I just uninstalled most of the things that (that I thought) did not represent a threat to the system...Post:
su
tail -n 50 /var/log/yum.log

Increase 'n' if there are more packages in the list that were removed recently.

I'm thinking that you perhaps removed cpuspeed or equivalent, or some other package(s) that affects basic operation.

V

P.S.
After uninstalling some applications from fedora 12 the cpu temperature is hotter that is was before I uninstalled such applications.Could you quantify this statement: how large of a temperature increase? Is the increase perhaps simply due to extended up-time and/or higher CPU use (perhaps even by YUM itself, which can max out my CPU here)? Hardware specs (CPU, GPU), & laptop or desktop PC?

jpollard
2nd July 2010, 06:19 PM
You might have removed the "cpuspeed" package - this monitors and adjusts
your processor speed depending on the load on the system. Disabling this can
easily allow your processors to heat up.

dd_wizard
2nd July 2010, 06:45 PM
Hrm, is this another case of a user updating to F13 and then uninstalling the "unnecessary" F12 packages?

dd_wizard

Dithers
2nd July 2010, 06:50 PM
ps -aux

and see what is using a large % of your CPU

DanMachado
2nd July 2010, 07:50 PM
Have you changed screen savers? I have noticed that they give the cpu a workout and The temp. is up when i come back to the machine.

Nope.

Thanks for replying.

---------- Post added at 07:50 PM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 PM CDT ----------


Post:
su
tail -n 50 /var/log/yum.log

Increase 'n' if there are more packages in the list that were removed recently.

I'm thinking that you perhaps removed cpuspeed or equivalent, or some other package that affects basic operation.

V

P.S.Could you quantify this statement: how large of a temperature increase? Is the increase perhaps simply due to extended up-time and/or higher CPU use (perhaps even by YUM itself, which can max out my CPU here)? Hardware specs (CPU, GPU), & laptop or desktop PC?

Hi Hlingler,

Before I uninstalled some packages the temperature was about 45C with firefox working (no flash plug-in) after 2-3 hours. Now it is 57C, again just firefox (no flash plug-in) after 20mins.

Here is the list of the packages I uninstall (and yes, I uninstall cpuspeed which I am re-installing again):



Jun 26 15:20:41 Erased: eog
Jun 26 15:21:20 Erased: gdm-plugin-fingerprint
Jun 26 15:22:57 Erased: gnome-applets
Jun 26 15:23:45 Erased: bluez
Jun 26 15:23:50 Erased: gnome-bluetooth
Jun 26 15:23:52 Erased: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
Jun 26 15:24:42 Erased: gnome-pilot
Jun 26 15:25:23 Erased: gnome-user-share
Jun 26 15:28:23 Erased: gvfs-smb
Jun 26 15:28:50 Erased: gvfs-obexftp
Jun 26 15:29:12 Erased: gvfs-gphoto2
Jun 26 15:29:43 Erased: gvfs-archive
Jun 26 15:31:18 Erased: nautilus-sendto
Jun 26 15:31:51 Erased: NetworkManager-openvpn
Jun 26 15:32:45 Erased: NetworkManager-pptp
Jun 26 15:32:47 Erased: NetworkManager-vpnc
Jun 26 15:33:12 Erased: orca
Jun 26 15:33:51 Erased: lxde-common
Jun 26 15:33:52 Erased: pcmanfm
Jun 26 15:34:36 Erased: vinagre
Jun 26 15:37:31 Erased: mirage
Jun 26 15:38:22 Erased: cadaver
Jun 26 15:39:16 Erased: fetchmail
Jun 26 15:39:51 Erased: fpaste
Jun 26 15:40:31 Erased: mutt
Jun 26 15:41:40 Erased: slrn
Jun 26 15:44:48 Erased: ibus-chewing
Jun 26 15:44:50 Erased: ibus-hangul
Jun 26 15:44:51 Erased: ibus-rawcode
Jun 26 15:44:52 Erased: ibus-m17n
Jun 26 15:44:53 Erased: ibus-pinyin
Jun 26 15:48:28 Erased: ibus-anthy
Jun 26 15:48:30 Erased: cjkuni-uming-fonts
Jun 26 15:50:12 Erased: ibus-gtk
Jun 26 15:50:17 Erased: ibus
Jun 26 15:50:32 Erased: imsettings
Jun 26 15:50:34 Erased: im-chooser
Jun 26 15:50:36 Erased: iok
Jun 26 15:51:20 Erased: jomolhari-fonts
Jun 26 15:51:23 Erased: kacst-art-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:40 Erased: m17n-contrib-urdu
Jun 26 15:54:40 Erased: paktype-tehreer-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:43 Erased: m17n-contrib-tamil
Jun 26 15:54:43 Erased: vlgothic-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:46 Erased: kacst-titlel-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:49 Erased: m17n-contrib-malayalam
Jun 26 15:54:49 Erased: m17n-contrib-punjabi
Jun 26 15:54:50 Erased: lohit-assamese-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:53 Erased: thai-scalable-waree-fonts
Jun 26 15:54:55 Erased: m17n-contrib-telugu
Jun 26 15:54:56 Erased: m17n-db-assamese
Jun 26 15:54:56 Erased: m17n-contrib-kannada
Jun 26 15:54:57 Erased: m17n-contrib-assamese
Jun 26 15:54:57 Erased: kacst-qurn-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:00 Erased: lohit-marathi-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:03 Erased: m17n-contrib-gujarati
Jun 26 15:55:03 Erased: m17n-db-malayalam
Jun 26 15:55:04 Erased: m17n-contrib-maithili
Jun 26 15:55:04 Erased: kacst-pen-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:07 Erased: m17n-contrib-oriya
Jun 26 15:55:07 Erased: m17n-contrib-hindi
Jun 26 15:55:08 Erased: lohit-tamil-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:11 Erased: lohit-hindi-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:14 Erased: m17n-db-tamil
Jun 26 15:55:14 Erased: m17n-db-kannada
Jun 26 15:55:14 Erased: kacst-letter-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:17 Erased: kacst-title-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:20 Erased: m17n-contrib-sinhala
Jun 26 15:55:20 Erased: smc-meera-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:23 Erased: m17n-db-hindi
Jun 26 15:55:23 Erased: kacst-office-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:26 Erased: khmeros-base-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:29 Erased: m17n-contrib-bengali
Jun 26 15:55:29 Erased: kacst-one-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:32 Erased: lohit-maithili-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:35 Erased: kacst-screen-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:38 Erased: lohit-kannada-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:40 Erased: kacst-farsi-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:43 Erased: kacst-digital-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:46 Erased: paktype-naqsh-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:49 Erased: m17n-db-oriya
Jun 26 15:55:49 Erased: m17n-db-telugu
Jun 26 15:55:49 Erased: m17n-db-bengali
Jun 26 15:55:50 Erased: un-core-dotum-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:53 Erased: lohit-gujarati-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:56 Erased: kacst-decorative-fonts
Jun 26 15:55:59 Erased: kacst-book-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:02 Erased: kacst-poster-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:04 Erased: openoffice.org-langpack-as_IN
Jun 26 15:56:06 Erased: lohit-bengali-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:09 Erased: kacst-naskh-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:12 Erased: lohit-oriya-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:15 Erased: m17n-db-thai
Jun 26 15:56:15 Erased: m17n-db-punjabi
Jun 26 15:56:16 Erased: lklug-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:18 Erased: lohit-telugu-fonts
Jun 26 15:56:21 Erased: m17n-contrib-marathi
Jun 26 15:56:21 Erased: m17n-db-gujarati
Jun 26 15:56:22 Erased: m17n-db-sinhala
Jun 26 15:56:22 Erased: lohit-punjabi-fonts
Jun 26 15:57:05 Erased: abyssinica-fonts
Jun 26 16:03:06 Erased: bluez-cups
Jun 26 16:03:52 Erased: cups-pk-helper
Jun 26 16:04:40 Erased: gutenprint
Jun 26 16:04:43 Erased: gutenprint-cups
Jun 26 16:07:16 Erased: system-config-printer
Jun 26 16:07:17 Erased: hpijs
Jun 26 16:07:19 Erased: samba-client
Jun 26 16:07:21 Erased: httpd
Jun 26 16:07:23 Erased: hplip
Jun 26 16:07:25 Erased: mpage
Jun 26 16:15:12 Erased: dmraid
Jun 26 16:15:13 Erased: bc
Jun 26 16:15:14 Erased: coolkey
Jun 26 16:15:15 Erased: b43-fwcutter
Jun 26 16:15:16 Erased: dmraid-events
Jun 26 16:15:17 Erased: gtk2
Jun 26 16:15:19 Erased: pango
Jun 26 16:15:20 Erased: bind-utils
Jun 26 16:15:21 Erased: b43-openfwwf
Jun 26 16:15:22 Erased: dos2unix
Jun 26 16:15:22 Erased: nspluginwrapper
Jun 26 16:15:23 Erased: libXft
Jun 26 16:15:24 Erased: cairo
Jun 26 16:15:25 Erased: freetype-freeworld
Jun 26 16:15:26 Erased: cpuspeed
Jun 26 16:15:26 Erased: finger
Jun 26 16:15:27 Erased: acpid
Jun 26 16:15:28 Erased: fontconfig
Jun 26 16:15:29 Erased: fprintd-pam
Jun 26 16:15:30 Erased: dracut
Jun 26 16:15:31 Erased: ftp
Jun 26 16:15:32 Erased: atmel-firmware
Jun 27 15:56:24 Erased: clamtk
Jun 27 15:56:30 Erased: cronie
Jun 27 15:56:31 Erased: crontabs
Jun 27 15:56:32 Erased: cronie-anacron
Jun 27 15:56:33 Erased: clamav-update
Jun 27 15:56:34 Erased: sendmail
Jun 27 17:55:43 Erased: ed
Jun 27 18:20:17 Erased: jwhois
Jun 27 18:21:20 Erased: lftp
Jun 27 18:21:21 Erased: libertas-usb8388-firmware
Jun 27 18:24:03 Erased: mlocate
Jun 27 18:25:53 Erased: nc
Jun 27 18:25:54 Erased: numactl
Jun 27 18:26:27 Erased: yp-tools
Jun 27 18:26:28 Erased: ypbind
Jun 27 18:27:42 Erased: words
Jun 27 18:28:46 Erased: unix2dos
Jun 27 18:29:58 Erased: traceroute
Jun 27 18:31:59 Erased: telnet
Jun 27 18:48:52 Erased: openssh-askpass
Jun 27 18:50:35 Erased: pam_ccreds
Jun 27 18:51:38 Erased: pam_passwdqc
Jun 27 18:51:39 Erased: pam_smb
Jun 27 18:51:40 Erased: pam_krb5
Jun 27 18:51:41 Erased: pam_pkcs11
Jun 27 18:53:11 Erased: pcmciautils
Jun 27 18:53:12 Erased: perf
Jun 27 18:54:29 Erased: pptp
Jun 27 18:54:30 Erased: prelink
Jun 27 18:56:03 Erased: ql2500-firmware
Jun 27 18:56:03 Erased: ql2200-firmware
Jun 27 18:56:04 Erased: ql2100-firmware
Jun 27 18:56:04 Erased: ql2400-firmware
Jun 27 18:56:04 Erased: ql23xx-firmware
Jun 27 18:57:27 Erased: rdate
Jun 27 18:57:28 Erased: rsync
Jun 27 18:57:29 Erased: rdist
Jun 27 18:57:30 Erased: rsh
Jun 27 18:57:31 Erased: readahead
Jun 27 18:57:32 Erased: rng-utils
Jun 27 18:57:32 Erased: quota
Jun 27 18:59:22 Erased: sos
Jun 27 18:59:25 Erased: slim
Jun 27 18:59:26 Erased: smartmontools
Jun 27 18:59:27 Erased: stunnel
Jun 27 18:59:28 Erased: specspo
Jun 27 18:59:29 Erased: rt73usb-firmware
Jun 27 18:59:29 Erased: rt61pci-firmware
Jun 27 19:01:58 Erased: time
Jun 27 19:01:58 Erased: talk
Jun 27 19:01:59 Erased: tcpdump
Jun 27 19:02:00 Erased: tcp_wrappers
Jun 27 19:12:37 Erased: ntfs-3g
Jun 27 19:12:38 Erased: openvpn
Jun 27 19:14:00 Erased: vpnc
Jun 27 19:14:01 Erased: xsel
Jun 28 19:03:06 Erased: recordmydesktop
Jun 28 19:03:07 Erased: gtk-recordmydesktop


Is any other essential application in this list that I must re-install?

Regards.

Dan

Hlingler
2nd July 2010, 08:02 PM
Most of the stuff listed is in fact cruft (fonts, language-type). On a quick review: dracut is required to update grub after kernel update(s). libXft may be needed/useful for some stuff (but not necessarily required by RPM/YUM). Without sendmail, you get no local mail alerts (not an issue if you never check). Without cronie/crontab/cron* you get no cron jobs (may or may not be an issue). Without jwhois you cannot run whois. Without mlocate you lose locate & access to it's database. Without prelink and/or readahead, you may have longer application start times. Without smartmontools, you lose HDD health monitoring. Not sure about acpid, telnet, opnssh-*, and pam-*. My opinion is not expert, and there may be differing opinions from other members.

IMHO, you went a little too far with the purges.

V

P.S. Removing cpuspeed is almost certainly the cause of the increased CPU temp - it's running full-out all the time instead of scaling back.

P.P.S. I'm curious as to what desktop/window manager you're using, since you've eviscerated GNOME and removed bits of LXDE/SLIM... .

DanMachado
2nd July 2010, 08:09 PM
ps -aux

and see what is using a large % of your CPU


Hi Dithers,

Thaks for replying. Here the list of application with large % of my CPU:



PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
1463 7.1 1.6 103392 17156 tty1 Ss+ 20:16 2:54 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-hVcGLI/database -nolisten tcp
1683 2.8 0.5 508700 5288 ? S<sl 20:17 1:07 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
1907 10.9 9.0 667296 91984 ? Sl 20:20 4:04 /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5/firefox
2543 2.0 0.1 107560 1072 pts/0 R+ 20:57 0:00 ps -aux


anything else is in 0.0.

Regards.

Dan

DanMachado
4th July 2010, 06:31 PM
Most of the stuff listed is in fact cruft (fonts, language-type). On a quick review: dracut is required to update grub after kernel update(s). libXft may be needed/useful for some stuff (but not necessarily required by RPM/YUM). Without sendmail, you get no local mail alerts (not an issue if you never check). Without cronie/crontab/cron* you get no cron jobs (may or may not be an issue). Without jwhois you cannot run whois. Without mlocate you lose locate & access to it's database. Without prelink and/or readahead, you may have longer application start times. Without smartmontools, you lose HDD health monitoring. Not sure about acpid, telnet, opnssh-*, and pam-*. My opinion is not expert, and there may be differing opinions from other members.

IMHO, you went a little too far with the purges.

V

P.S. Removing cpuspeed is almost certainly the cause of the increased CPU temp - it's running full-out all the time instead of scaling back.

P.P.S. I'm curious as to what desktop/window manager you're using, since you've eviscerated GNOME and removed bits of LXDE/SLIM... .

Hi Hlingler,

I reinstalled cpuspeed and it seems it solved the problem, now the temperature is more stable, thanks. About your question, well I still have Gnome as desktop and metacity as window manager.