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bob
1st March 2009, 04:21 AM
Well, this morning, I cleaned up things and still had a couple of dep errors on the akmod. No biggie. However, I just did a recheck and..... 972 updates!!!! :eek: Methinks this will take awhile. :D BTW, I passed the 3.0 meg size update at #909...yeppers, this could take awhile!

bob
1st March 2009, 05:00 AM
Well now! It's been a bit over a half hour and --skip broken has just borked on broken packages, that is after downloading everything and taking 5 to 10 minutes to do the transaction check. Back to 'sh yum.sh' for this one. I'll check it out in the morning.

JN4OldSchool
1st March 2009, 05:10 AM
Why is it I feel like I walked in during the middle of the movie? :eek:

I take it you are talking about F10? Sounds pretty borked, what happened?

edit: oops, never mind, just noticed what forum it is in. :rolleyes: :p

Demz
1st March 2009, 05:19 AM
bob, if you run into the famous rpm problem i know Scottro has posted a howto .. i'll find it http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1175012&postcount=28

scottro
1st March 2009, 06:03 AM
Yes, and suggested on the testing list that they put it an in obvious place. Someone wrote, it's an ugly situation, but nothing can really be done.
My answer was, it's a trivial problem and a note in large font--preferably red--near the download link to the alpha ISOs would fix it completely.

However, remember, this is Fedora, so when it breaks, you can be told how you should have looked somewhere else, or spent 20 minutes googling about it.

There was a massive rawhide update today, so it's possible that it's already been fixed to the point where all one has to do is, immediately after installation, do

yum -y update rpm.

However, I would have to do a fresh install to test that, and it's late. Also, I'm probably going to set up the netbook for my wife, as I've just given into myself, and ordered the brand new ASUS 1000HE. :)

So, I'll be throwing rawhide on that--it should be in next week.

(Looks at bank account and headlines about more and more companies laying off employees--then, goes back to bury head in sand.)

SlowJet
1st March 2009, 07:46 AM
Lots of Molly!

I made it through the updates by doing yum and rpm parts first (I also manually installed the latest koji openoffice.org to skip over 1 version and reduce the download by 120 MB.

It took 3 hours for 889 pkgs and 644 MB (EXT4 got a good workout.)

But firefox became firetransformer. Some screens where like giant leggos.
I had to download the latest minefield and transfer it from another computer to install.
It actually runs better than 3.1b2.

But my fav surprise was gnome-terminal. Text is black w red background and sometimes shows the text and sometimes it's all red.

Other than that, F11 is running good.

SJ

Demz
1st March 2009, 07:49 AM
firefox3.1 beta3 should be out march 4 i think

bob
1st March 2009, 10:55 AM
This is the broken one in my case:


akmod-nvidia-180.35-2.fc11.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common >= 180.35 is needed by package akmod-nvidia-180.35-2.fc11.i686 (rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common >= 180.35 is needed by package akmod-nvidia-180.35-2.fc11.i686 (rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide)




and this morning, it looks like we've got an additional 469 packages to play with. Giving skip-broken another chance today. Let's see..... nope!


Transaction Check Error:
package akmod-nvidia-180.29-1.fc11.i586 is already installed
file /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-180.29-1.fc11.src.rpm from install of akmod-nvidia-180.29-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package akmod-nvidia-180.29-1.fc11.i686

So, for the moment, I'll just yum.sh and clear them up. This is a 'fun' partition. Still have Fed 10 and Fed 8 on two other partitions, as well as several other distros. No urgency on the error.

Demz
1st March 2009, 11:03 AM
this might be dumb to mention but what the hell. that would be better to file it in rpmfusion bugzilla

bob
1st March 2009, 11:17 AM
Greg, yes, I've got a working bugzilla on "skip-broken" , which I'll add this to. Then again, the error involves 3rd. party packages so it's not directly related. I'll open up a bugzilla at the rpm-fusion site as you suggest. And, bug 409 is now submitted.

Demz
1st March 2009, 11:34 AM
iv' never used skip-broken as its never worked, then again how many yum plugins actually work :D

leigh123linux
1st March 2009, 11:47 AM
Well, this morning, I cleaned up things and still had a couple of dep errors on the akmod. No biggie. However, I just did a recheck and..... 972 updates!!!! :eek: Methinks this will take awhile. :D BTW, I passed the 3.0 meg size update at #909...yeppers, this could take awhile!

There has just been a mass rebuild for the new changes .


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild



* Architecture Support

This requires a change in redhat-rpm-config for the i586 flags, as well as a koji config change to build for i586 rather than i386 by default. These two changes can happen at any time, and will likely happen this week to shake out any bugs. Dennis Gilmore and Jon Masters are responsible for getting these changes in place.

* GCC 4.4

This requires gcc 4.4.0-0.19 in the buildroots before the mass rebuild begins. Jakub is responsible for getting this built this week.

* Stronger Hashes

This requires redhat-rpm-config changes for default hash, as well as koji code changes to handle the hash. Mike Bonnet and Miloslav Trmač are responsible for getting the koji changes done upstream. Miloslav Trmač and Jon Masters are responsible for getting the redhat-rpm-config changes in place, which depend on the koji changes being live first. A koji outage is scheduled for this weekend to deploy a new version of koji, which will include changes for this feature. An updated redhat-rpm-config will be deployed shortly thereafter to ensure hash changes are in effect.

glennzo
1st March 2009, 12:24 PM
I'm going in. Cover me!


Install 2 Package(s)
Update 890 Package(s)
Remove 1 Package(s)

Total download size: 697 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

bob
1st March 2009, 12:32 PM
That's strange. After the updates, all my packages are now .deb and my screen has turned .....brown.... :eek: (jest kiddin')

Wayne
1st March 2009, 02:00 PM
Umm, I didn't see that many packages when I updated my tester this afternoon, --skip-broken worked OK for some files like Rhythmbox and a couple of its dependencies. Actually, that has been unchanged for a few days!

Wayne

scottro
1st March 2009, 02:06 PM
skip-borked (that's what they *should* have called it) :) seems to work sporadically for me. Usually though, I try to resolve the problems.

There was a HUGE rawhide update yesterday, not sure about F10--I guess I'll see on Monday.
(My work machine is F10).

bob
1st March 2009, 02:40 PM
Ah. Well, the good news is the system booted after the 1000+ updates. However, there are some definite glitches. For instance, now I'm looking at a 'quick reply' that has the normal box to type in, but the shaded background is about 10X as large as before. Also, my terminal now has all text highlighted in red. Kind of pretty, but you go red/green blind in a minute or two. And, Thunderbird is also borked; almost all the text is gone. So, since Tbird wasn't one of the updates, there's got to be a common cause which ONE OF YOU will probably be able to go "AHA" and then I can file my bugzilla....please? Oops! I'd put in a smiley, but they seem to have disappeared too.... along with the avatars in Advanced mode....hmmm...this is not good!

Edit: Back in Fed 10 until I can get a handle on the Fed 11 situation. Alphas! Gotta love 'em.

Here's a screenshot of my problems. You can see my 'CP' in the background. That scrolls down for two pages before actually reaching content.

bob
1st March 2009, 07:54 PM
Here's a second screenshot . This is from: http://www.infosprite.com/ You can see the size of the text rendered in some cases on the sites. Since Mozilla's involved with both Minefield and Tbird, something in common must be borked:

Jake
1st March 2009, 09:19 PM
@Bob... How did you get so many updates? I've checked all my repo's even blocked all except the official fedora one, and I can't find no updates! :( :( :( :(

bob
1st March 2009, 09:24 PM
yum clean all?

Jake
1st March 2009, 09:51 PM
yum clean all?Yes I've done all that..


[Jake@fedora ~]$ su -
Password:
[root@fedora ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
rawhide/metalink | 7.5 kB 00:00
* rpmfusion-free-rawhide: ftp.nb.lug.ro
* rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide: fedora.tu-chemnitz.de
* rawhide: fedora.nano-box.net
rpmfusion-free-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rawhide | 3.4 kB 00:00
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update
[root@fedora ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
[root@fedora ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Determining fastest mirrors
rawhide/metalink | 7.5 kB 00:00
* rpmfusion-free-rawhide: fr2.rpmfind.net
* rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide: fr2.rpmfind.net
* rawhide: ftp.nluug.nl
rpmfusion-free-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-rawhide/primary_db | 335 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide/primary_db | 99 kB 00:00
rawhide | 3.4 kB 00:00
rawhide/primary_db | 9.4 MB 00:09
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update
[root@fedora ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[root@fedora ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Determining fastest mirrors
rawhide/metalink | 7.5 kB 00:00
* rpmfusion-free-rawhide: ftp.nb.lug.ro
* rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide: ftp.nb.lug.ro
* rawhide: ftp.df.lth.se
http://ftp.nb.lug.ro/rpmfusion/free/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/free/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fedora.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/rpmfusion/free/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fedora.uib.no/rpmfusion/free/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
rpmfusion-free-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-rawhide/primary_db | 335 kB 00:01
http://ftp.nb.lug.ro/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fedora.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fedora.uib.no/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide/primary_db | 99 kB 00:00
http://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://fedora.nano-box.net/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.tudelft.nl/download.fedora.redhat.com/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://mirrors.se.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://mirrors.nl.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
Trying other mirror.
rawhide | 3.4 kB 00:00
ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/fedora/linux/development/x86_64/os/repodata/3e6e41a3f21eab7087682bbdf4e01364f1e6f94db30aba87e2 eedf56504c1002-primary.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error ftp error: [Errno ftp error] 550 Failed to change directory.>
Trying other mirror.
rawhide/primary_db | 9.4 MB 00:33
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update
[root@fedora ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[root@fedora ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Determining fastest mirrors
rawhide/metalink | 8.6 kB 00:00
* rpmfusion-free-rawhide: fr2.rpmfind.net
* rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide: fr2.rpmfind.net
* rawhide: mirror.karneval.cz
rpmfusion-free-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-rawhide/primary_db | 335 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide/primary_db | 99 kB 00:00
rawhide | 3.4 kB 00:00
rawhide/primary_db | 9.4 MB 00:08
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update
[root@fedora ~]#

bob
1st March 2009, 09:56 PM
Well, enjoy it while it lasts! They're out there and waiting for you later on.

Jake
1st March 2009, 10:00 PM
hmm.. But I enjoy updating more! :D

bob
1st March 2009, 10:05 PM
Well, probably your mirrors haven't sync'd yet. You might try commenting out the mirrorlist and removing the comment from the main repository and grab them that way. Otherwise, I'd say you'll have them within another day at most.

marko
2nd March 2009, 04:54 AM
Here's a second screenshot . This is from: http://www.infosprite.com/ You can see the size of the text rendered in some cases on the sites. Since Mozilla's involved with both Minefield and Tbird, something in common must be borked:

I did the big update today and it messed up my laptop and test desktop. My guess is the problem is with xulrunner. It's in the update

Mar 01 22:07:26 Updated: xulrunner.x86_64 1.9.1-0.9.beta2.fc11
and it's used by Minefield and tbird.

I have the same problems: mis-sized forms, windows and widgets, also virtual consoles don't work right (they don't work at all on my laptop, on my desktop I can go to a virtual console but coming back to KDE, the desktop is all white and the taskbar is gone.)

marko
2nd March 2009, 05:38 AM
I did the big update today and it messed up my laptop and test desktop. My guess is the problem is with xulrunner. It's in the update

and it's used by Minefield and tbird.

I have the same problems: mis-sized forms, windows and widgets, also virtual consoles don't work right (they don't work at all on my laptop, on my desktop I can go to a virtual console but coming back to KDE, the desktop is all white and the taskbar is gone.)


UPDATE:

This is more serious, if I use the KDE4 in the new update, KDE quickly becomes unresponsive (taskbar and desktop). the only way out is to start a virtual console, become root and run 'init 3' or 'init 1' to get out of X and KDE4. At that point, I see there's a few KDE processes still alive (1 plasma, 1 ksysguard and maybe a konsole).
I then tried using Gnome, it works but any KDE apps that use xulrunner are messed up.
I also have the red highlighted text with the white background like bob reported in the terminal.

MetaCarpal
2nd March 2009, 06:14 AM
I'm posting this from konqueror in KDE4.2 because my firefox/minefield is borked as above. I'm also getting the red highlighting with gnome-terminal, though konsole works fine. The issues with gnome-terminal and firefox/minefield show up in both Gnome and KDE. My KDE desktop isn't giving me any problems.

bob
2nd March 2009, 12:27 PM
Marko, MetaCarpal - did either of you report a Bugzilla? Never mind, I've reported it as Bug 488054 Edit: Looks like it's already filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487844 Looks like nspr is the culprit. Avoid that upgrade if you haven't done it already.

hephasteus
2nd March 2009, 03:43 PM
I'm going in. Cover me!


Install 2 Package(s)
Update 890 Package(s)
Remove 1 Package(s)

Total download size: 697 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

Just download one and test it for a week then get the next one. :D

leigh123linux
2nd March 2009, 06:44 PM
Marko, MetaCarpal - did either of you report a Bugzilla? Never mind, I've reported it as Bug 488054 Edit: Looks like it's already filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487844 Looks like nspr is the culprit. Avoid that upgrade if you haven't done it already.

Here's the report for the red highlighting in gnome-terminal

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487795

Jake
4th March 2009, 01:00 AM
Finally.. I got my updates... as I sat here with my mouth slowly opening as I'm watching all these updates flying by...

Install 13 Package(s)
Update 1308 Package(s)
Remove 2 Package(s)

Total download size: 1.3 G
Is this ok [y/N]:

Thought you said there was only ~900?

Demz
4th March 2009, 01:09 AM
Finally.. I got my updates... as I sat here with my mouth slowly opening as I'm watching all these updates flying by...

Install 13 Package(s)
Update 1308 Package(s)
Remove 2 Package(s)

Total download size: 1.3 G
Is this ok [y/N]:

Thought you said there was only ~900?

woah, thats a hell of a lot Jake, how much crap do you have installed?

Jake
4th March 2009, 01:14 AM
Don't know, But for once I think my Fedora 10 Updates testing, is going to finish updating before my rawhide :D

But so far so good..

(623/1321): perl-File-RsyncP-0.68-5.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 120 kB 00:00
(624/1321): perl-HTML-Parser-3.59-2.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 120 kB 00:00
(625/1321): qca-ossl-2.0.0-0.6.beta3.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 120 kB 00:00
(626/1321): perl-URI-1.37-2.fc11.noarch.rpm | 120 kB 00:00
(627/1321): libgtop2-2.26.0-1.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 121 kB 00:00
(628/1321): nspr-4.7.3-4.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 121 kB 00:00
(629/1321): libgsf-devel-1.14.11-3.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 121 kB 00:00
(630/1321): xorg-x11-utils-7.4-4.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 122 kB 00:00
(631/1321): indent-2.2.10-3.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 122 kB 00:00
(632/1321): libgsf-1.14.11-3.fc11.x86_64.rpm | 123 kB 00:00

Demz
4th March 2009, 01:29 AM
you dont know? didnt you do a custom install from the DvD of the Alpha

Jake
4th March 2009, 01:31 AM
I've installed and un-installed so much since I installed this thing xD. I've forgotten.

PS: There still going good :)

(1221/1321): docbook-style-xsl-1.74.2-3.fc11.noarch.rpm | 3.1 MB 00:02

Jake
4th March 2009, 04:09 AM
Yay, now my firefox is broken too :)*I don't feel so left out now. :)

bob
4th March 2009, 04:24 AM
Got tired of waiting and grabbed the fix from over here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=215309 Looks like tomorrow maybe on the actual fix?

Jake
4th March 2009, 05:03 AM
Well, I got a cheat :D
















I can just reboot into Fedora 10 stable.. and by-pass this "firefox" issue :D

Demz
4th March 2009, 05:28 AM
firefox3.1 beta3 should be out anytime now so i expect that to be in rawhide anytime now

bob
4th March 2009, 05:37 AM
Yeah, I've got 10 and 8 behind that if I need it. Also Mint, Vector, gOS, Ubuntu and Debian....just in case. Something's gotta work!

Jake
4th March 2009, 05:45 AM
Yeah.. unless this happens.. :D

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=215483

Demz
4th March 2009, 06:19 AM
any of you tried tthis
Downgrading to pre-mass-rebuild nspr gets you a working browser.
> nspr-4.7.3-3.fc11 works fine here.
or getting
nspr-4.7.3-5.fc11
from koji?

AdamW
5th March 2009, 01:11 AM
The entire distribution was rebuilt over the last week or so (for GCC 4.4 and the new RPM hashing system and a few other changes), so updating from F10 or F11 Alpha to current Rawhide will replace virtually every single package you have installed. That's why it's so big :)

Jake
5th March 2009, 03:13 AM
Yup, and today I got an extra 124 packages updated :) xD. BTW, Firefox is fixed.

Though I just tested my GFX card in rawhide and stable either xorg is broken in both, or I may need a new GFX Card (Warranty FTW).

Though I spent half hour trying to get my Rawhide to display anything first xD.

Demz
5th March 2009, 05:38 AM
what Model GFX card do you have Jake?

marko
5th March 2009, 05:44 AM
Marko, MetaCarpal - did either of you report a Bugzilla? Never mind, I've reported it as Bug 488054 Edit: Looks like it's already filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487844 Looks like nspr is the culprit. Avoid that upgrade if you haven't done it already.

I think all the problems I saw are fixed by the update I did just tonight, among them:
kernel 2.6.29-0.197.rc7.fc11
nspr.x86_64 4.7.3-5.fc11
kdebase-workspace.x86_64 4.2.1-2.fc11
kdebase-workspace-libs.x86_64 4.2.1-2.fc11

Jake
5th March 2009, 07:45 AM
what Model GFX card do you have Jake?Look here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129499).

Demz
5th March 2009, 08:49 AM
Look here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129499).

time to look at NewEgg Jake

Jake
5th March 2009, 08:51 AM
Nah, It's under warranty. Why pay, when I can get it fixed for free? :D

Also, 512MB cards are the max for my AGP Apparently :(

However, I do need to buy a new HDD.. running out of storage space xD.. All my drives are full...

Though that's kinda my fault xD as for what I use them for..

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7370/screenshot8.png

Demz
5th March 2009, 08:54 AM
Nah, It's under warranty. Why pay, when I can get it fixed for free? :D

Also, 512MB cards are the max for my AGP Apparently :(
your gonna have to update sometimne Jake an 512MB AGP cards wont be around forever

Jake
5th March 2009, 08:56 AM
your gonna have to update sometimne Jake an 512MB AGP cards wont be around foreverI know I know, I'm planning on buying:

AMD Opteron Quad core (x2)
Gigabyte Server Motherboard (x1)
6 HDD's
64GB RAM.

Demz
5th March 2009, 08:58 AM
I know I know, I'm planning on buying:

AMD Opteron Quad core (x2)
Gigabyte Server Motherboard (x1)
6 HDD's
64GB RAM.

while ya at it, buy me one to

leigh123linux
5th March 2009, 08:59 AM
Look here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=129499).

Looks like a driver issue to me.

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:02 AM
Looks like a driver issue to me.Yeah, that's what I thought, till both OS's went down with the issue at the same time, and both were running different drivers.

PS: Demz, I'll be pushing the budget a bit as it is with just 1, sorry :(

Demz
5th March 2009, 09:08 AM
Yeah, that's what I thought, till both OS's went down with the issue at the same time, and both were running different drivers.

PS: Demz, I'll be pushing the budget a bit as it is with just 1, sorry :(

just buy me te Cpu an i'll get the rest :) i wont touch quad core till its been out a fair while. wish i did that with Vista an didnt waste $700 on Ultimate edition

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:15 AM
You PAID for vista? are you nuts?

I got mine free! :D

MS Partner program for the win! (RTM)

Demz
5th March 2009, 09:16 AM
You PAID for vista? are you nuts?

I got mine free! :D

MS Partner program for the win! (RTM)

yeah i did, im a good young lad like that, i do not pirate anything from M$ :D

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:18 AM
yeah i did, im a good young lad like that, i do not pirate anything from M$ :DRelease to Manufacture, is not pirate :D


Also, checking out prices & man, my CPU cost me around 100 when I got it.. now look at it! :mad:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939 512Kb Cache OEM Processor

108 in stock

26.86 inc vat

So yes, best to wait for prices to drop.

PS: Not same socket though.

Demz
5th March 2009, 09:22 AM
Release to Manufacture, is not pirate :D


Also, checking out prices & man, my CPU cost me around 100 when I got it.. now look at it! :mad:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939 512Kb Cache OEM Processor

108 in stock

26.86 inc vat

So yes, best to wait for prices to drop.

PS: Not same socket though.
only time i got a Free windows Update is when i met this " kewl " guy he mentioned how awesome WindowsMe was so he installed it for me it was a pirate copy, 4 days later i reverted back to windows98 :D

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:30 AM
only time i got a Free windows Update is when i met this " kewl " guy he mentioned how awesome WindowsMe was so he installed it for me it was a pirate copy, 4 days later i reverted back to windows98 :DEver thought of getting Linux it's free :cool:

Hold on wait a minute, this is a Linux forum... Do you like linux or windoze? ;)

Demz
5th March 2009, 09:34 AM
Ever thought of getting Linux it's free :cool:

Hold on wait a minute, this is a Linux forum... Do you like linux or windoze? ;)

i was never a great fan of linux back then as much as i am now, the desktop has come a long way compared to then,

i dualboot but do not use Vista, i refuse to reinstall it

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:42 AM
i was never a great fan of linux back then as much as i am now, the desktop has come a long way compared to then,

i dualboot but do not use Vista, i refuse to reinstall itRefund? Maybe get a refund and go get I

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Socket LGA775 processor
Designed for extreme performance, the Intel Core 2 Extreme processors feature the whole arsenal of performance-rich technologies
845.21 ex VAT
971.99 inc VAT

With the money :D


or..

AMD Phenom 9750 quad core socket AM2+ processor
AMD Phenom 9000 Series processors deliver the ultimate megatasking experience by providing direct and rapid information flow
106.08 ex VAT
121.99 inc VAT

Demz
5th March 2009, 09:45 AM
Refund? Maybe get a refund and go get I

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Socket LGA775 processor
Designed for extreme performance, the Intel Core 2 Extreme processors feature the whole arsenal of performance-rich technologies
845.21 ex VAT
971.99 inc VAT

With the money :D


or..

AMD Phenom 9750 quad core socket AM2+ processor
AMD Phenom 9000 Series processors deliver the ultimate megatasking experience by providing direct and rapid information flow
106.08 ex VAT
121.99 inc VAT
i'd like a refund but its a bit late for that im afraid :( . i will have to go with another AMD when i can afford to upgrade

Jake
5th March 2009, 09:56 AM
It's never to late if you own a mask, and a shot gun :)

Demz
5th March 2009, 10:43 AM
It's never to late if you own a mask, and a shot gun :)

as much as i hate Microsoft i do not own one of those

Jake
5th March 2009, 10:56 AM
as much as i hate Microsoft i do not own one of thoseOk, go to black market, and grab one :D

Shoot bill & ballarks

for me :D

Thanks
Jake








--
Just kidding.

Demz
5th March 2009, 11:18 AM
Ok, go to black market, and grab one :D

Shoot bill & ballarks

for me :D

Thanks
Jake








--
Just kidding.
to lazy to go that far :D

AdamW
6th March 2009, 12:28 AM
Quad core CPUs are great, BTW. The new desktop I built myself a couple of months back has one. Doesn't have any kind of issues at all compared to single or dual core, runs fine on any distro I've thrown at it.

(It's a Q6600 running at 3.34GHz...good buy. Don't get the Extremes, they're ridiculously overpriced for what they are. If you want to spend silly money on an Intel CPU get a Core i7, but the previous gen is much better price/performance at present).

Demz
6th March 2009, 12:31 AM
im gonna b looking at perhaps a Quad-Core AMD with a AM3 Mobo

AdamW
6th March 2009, 12:47 AM
I'm pretty neutral between AMD and Intel and from the research I did Intel's last-gen stuff (Q6xxx or, if the price works in your location, Q9xxx) still beats out the AM2+ / AM3 for price/performance, so that's why I went with the Intel. Whatever feels best for you, though :)

Demz
6th March 2009, 12:50 AM
I'm pretty neutral between AMD and Intel and from the research I did Intel's last-gen stuff (Q6xxx or, if the price works in your location, Q9xxx) still beats out the AM2+ / AM3 for price/performance, so that's why I went with the Intel. Whatever feels best for you, though :)

its not the feel, its the price , plus im not a power user so i dont need the power that intel has

AdamW
6th March 2009, 01:01 AM
ah, yeah. on absolute price the AMD stuff is a bit lower, you're right. and you can get AMD mobos with usable onboard graphics, too, which cuts a bit more off.

Demz
6th March 2009, 01:15 AM
ah, yeah. on absolute price the AMD stuff is a bit lower, you're right. and you can get AMD mobos with usable onboard graphics, too, which cuts a bit more off.

i dont use onboard graphics, i prefer that seperate, i'd like intel but i dont have the extra bucks to spend to buy decent enough intel hardware

rpstitz
6th March 2009, 01:44 AM
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Socket LGA775 processor
Designed for extreme performance, the Intel Core 2 Extreme processors feature the whole arsenal of performance-rich technologies
845.21 ex VAT
971.99 inc VAT

With the money :D


or..

AMD Phenom 9750 quad core socket AM2+ processor
AMD Phenom 9000 Series processors deliver the ultimate megatasking experience by providing direct and rapid information flow
106.08 ex VAT
121.99 inc VAT

US$
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3GHz 12M 1333MHz FSB......$349.99
AMD Phenom X4 9750 4MB 1800MHz FSB........................ 149.99

I couldn't find the 9770, but the Core2 Extreme QX9775 socket 771 is $1,649.99

I don't know how the money converts exactly, but your prices look better. :D

Demz
6th March 2009, 02:03 AM
in Australia for a QX9775/3.2GHZ/12MB CACHE/1600FSB/LGA771 costs $2424.00

PHENOM X4 Quad-Core 9950 Black Edition CPU, 2.6GHz (125W), 4MB Cache, Socket AM2+ costs $287.00 cheaper for me to go for AMD

PHENOM X4 Quad Core 9750 CPU, 2.4GHz (125W), 4MB Cache, Socket AM2+ $266.00 AUD$

ddcomputers.com.au prices above.
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QX9650 Extreme Processor LGA775/3GHz/12M L2 CACHE/1333MHz FSB $1,640.00

PHENOM X4 Quad-Core 9950 Black Edition CPU, 2.6GHz (125W), 4MB Cache, Socket AM2+ $299.00

http://ijk.com.au/ computers, the AMD is cheaper from ddcomputers but the intel is cheaper from ijk computers

still price i prefer AMD

Wayne
6th March 2009, 02:06 AM
I got the 890 packages thing yesterday too! :eek: It didn't complete first time due to bad mirrors but I think it did after a couple of tries... If I get time later I'll look at it.... If it still works! :D

Wayne