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Boricua
25th December 2008, 12:01 PM
Sorry if this is already reported, but I lost all sound for the first time using Fedora 10 64bit on my home computer:eek:. This happened after installing the latest kernel (2.6.27.9-159). Also, the sound settings tool became slow to use. This includes every sound (flash, movies, system sounds). Everything was working ok before this update. I'll be booting back to the previous kernel to see how it goes:rolleyes:.
By the way, Merry Christmas everyone :).

Boricua
25th December 2008, 12:11 PM
Yep, I got sound back after booting from kernel 2.6.27.7-134.

Brian1
25th December 2008, 03:17 PM
First might check your logs to see if any errors pop up.
Next check your loaded modules. Use the command /sbin/lsmod to list modules.
You can save the list to your home directory like so /sbin/lsmod > ~/modlist1
Now boot into new kernel and run the command /sbin/lsmod > ~/modlist2
Now compare the two saved files to see if one is missing a module or added one.

Post the section pertaining to your sound card from /sbin/lspci to see what hardware you have.

Brian

stlouis
25th December 2008, 03:26 PM
Are you using Pulse Audio?

Boricua
25th December 2008, 08:09 PM
First might check your logs to see if any errors pop up.
Next check your loaded modules. Use the command /sbin/lsmod to list modules.
You can save the list to your home directory like so /sbin/lsmod > ~/modlist1
Now boot into new kernel and run the command /sbin/lsmod > ~/modlist2
Now compare the two saved files to see if one is missing a module or added one.

Post the section pertaining to your sound card from /sbin/lspci to see what hardware you have.

Brian

Thanks Brian. I compared modlitst1 and modlist2 and didn't found anything significant, although I admit I don't have a trained eye. Here's the output of modlist1:

Module Size Used by
fuse 60992 2
bridge 56224 0
stp 10756 1 bridge
bnep 22016 2
sco 19204 2
l2cap 28544 3 bnep
bluetooth 60068 5 bnep,sco,l2cap
sunrpc 191208 3
ip6t_REJECT 12160 2
nf_conntrack_ipv6 22984 2
ip6table_filter 11136 1
ip6_tables 26128 1 ip6table_filter
ipv6 287272 26 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
cpufreq_ondemand 15504 2
acpi_cpufreq 17552 0
freq_table 12928 2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
dm_multipath 23704 0
uinput 16128 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 15616 0
snd_emux_synth 43392 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 14080 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 14080 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_emu10k1 152720 6 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 30848 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec 121160 1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 10112 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_dummy 11396 0
snd_seq_oss 39104 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14848 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 61968 8 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,s nd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 52224 0
firewire_ohci 30340 0
nvidia 7807896 36
firewire_core 45504 1 firewire_ohci
snd_mixer_oss 23168 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 85512 4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_device 15380 7 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_r awmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_timer 30352 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 16656 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
crc_itu_t 10240 1 firewire_core
snd_util_mem 12416 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
emu10k1_gp 11392 0
snd_hwdep 16392 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
gameport 19600 2 emu10k1_gp
pata_marvell 12672 0
snd 68984 26 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,s nd_seq_midi_emul,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_ codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_os s,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,s nd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 14992 1 snd
ppdev 15752 0
i2c_i801 17820 0
i2c_core 29216 2 nvidia,i2c_i801
parport_pc 34200 0
parport 42784 2 ppdev,parport_pc
e1000e 118956 0
serio_raw 14084 0
pcspkr 11008 0
iTCO_wdt 20176 0
iTCO_vendor_support 11652 1 iTCO_wdt
ata_generic 13956 0
pata_acpi 13056 0
Now here's modlist2:

Module Size Used by
fuse 60992 2
bridge 56224 0
stp 10756 1 bridge
bnep 22016 2
sco 19204 2
l2cap 28544 3 bnep
bluetooth 60068 5 bnep,sco,l2cap
sunrpc 191208 3
ip6t_REJECT 12160 2
nf_conntrack_ipv6 22984 2
ip6table_filter 11136 1
ip6_tables 26128 1 ip6table_filter
ipv6 287272 26 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
cpufreq_ondemand 15504 2
acpi_cpufreq 17552 0
freq_table 12928 2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
dm_multipath 23704 0
uinput 16128 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 15360 0
snd_emux_synth 42880 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 14080 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 14080 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_emu10k1 152592 5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 30592 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec 123080 1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 10112 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_dummy 11396 0
firewire_ohci 30468 0
firewire_core 45504 1 firewire_ohci
snd_seq_oss 39104 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14848 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 61712 8 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,s nd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 51200 0
snd_mixer_oss 23168 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 84360 4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_device 15252 7 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_r awmidi,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_timer 30224 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 16784 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 12288 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 16264 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
crc_itu_t 10240 1 firewire_core
emu10k1_gp 11392 0
nvidia 7807896 36
snd 70392 23 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,s nd_seq_midi_emul,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_ codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_os s,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,s nd_hwdep
gameport 19600 2 emu10k1_gp
soundcore 14992 1 snd
serio_raw 14084 0
ppdev 15752 0
iTCO_wdt 20176 0
iTCO_vendor_support 11652 1 iTCO_wdt
parport_pc 34200 0
parport 42784 2 ppdev,parport_pc
i2c_i801 17820 0
pcspkr 11008 0
i2c_core 29216 2 nvidia,i2c_i801
e1000e 119084 0
pata_marvell 12672 0
ata_generic 13956 0
pata_acpi 13056 0
Mine is a SoundBlaster Audigy. Here's the output from /sbin/lspci regarding sound:

07:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
07:00.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy Game Port (rev 04)

By the way, it appears I'm not the only one. See:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=203708&goto=newpost

Boricua
25th December 2008, 08:10 PM
Are you using Pulse Audio?

Yes, using Pulse Audio since Fedora 10 beta.

Dmitry Rudakov
25th December 2008, 08:22 PM
Have a same problem. Disappear capture source in volume control (gnome), cannot to change capture source :(

nt4cats
26th December 2008, 02:01 AM
I'm in the same boat. I am using PulseAudio.

I've attached the lsmod and lspci data.

Key lspci details:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)

Key lsmod details:

[ddenardo@cylon tmp]$ egrep -i "snd|audio|oss|sound" lsmod-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.x86_64.out
snd_hda_intel 476576 3
snd_seq_dummy 11396 0
snd_seq_oss 39104 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14848 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 61968 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 15380 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 52224 0
snd_mixer_oss 23168 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 85512 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 30352 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 16656 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 16392 1 snd_hda_intel
snd 68984 16 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,sn d_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd _timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 14992 1 snd

[ddenardo@cylon tmp]$ egrep -i "snd|audio|oss|sound" lsmod-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.x86_64.out
snd_hda_intel 533412 4
snd_seq_dummy 11396 0
snd_seq_oss 39104 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14848 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 61712 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 15252 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 51200 0
snd_mixer_oss 23168 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 84360 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 30224 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 16784 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 16264 1 snd_hda_intel
snd 70392 18 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,sn d_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd _timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 14992 1 snd

I did not see anything relevant in dmesg or /var/log/messages, although I'm far from a guru and couild have missed it.

Kernel 2.6.27.9 lsmod (http://nt4cats.pastebin.com/f471bfe86)
Kernel 2.6.27.9 lspci (http://nt4cats.pastebin.com/f3ab1d853)

Kernel 2.6.27.7 lsmod (http://nt4cats.pastebin.com/f234e8a83)
Kernel 2.6.27.7 lspci (http://nt4cats.pastebin.com/f759695b4)

soker
26th December 2008, 02:07 AM
seems like this is a Bug, i'm having the same problem and after booting on older kernel the problem dissapears

bd54338rre
26th December 2008, 08:30 AM
i use kernel :
localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.10-167.fc10.i686

at the moment, and listening now to some mp3's

Boricua
26th December 2008, 12:19 PM
For those like me with a similar audigy card (and perhaps with other types as well), follow post #6 in the following thread:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1138136&posted=1#post1138136
It worked for me like a charm :D.

megaloman
26th December 2008, 03:34 PM
i use kernel :
localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.10-167.fc10.i686

at the moment, and listening now to some mp3's

the latest version available through fedora-updates is 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686
where did you get this kernel from?

A2Core
26th December 2008, 03:47 PM
the latest version available through fedora-updates is 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686
where did you get this kernel from?

That's what I'm on too, what you pointed out.

[ user: ~ ]$ uname -a
Linux thinkpad 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 15:12:04 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

My sound is fine.

Boricua
26th December 2008, 04:18 PM
the latest version available through fedora-updates is 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686
where did you get this kernel from?

From koji, perhaps:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=76110

bd54338rre
26th December 2008, 04:19 PM
the latest version available through fedora-updates is 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686
where did you get this kernel from?

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8

i hope they build kernel 2.6.28 soon

chepioq
26th December 2008, 07:33 PM
I try the latest kernel from koji (2.6.27.10-167) but same problem....

Brian1
26th December 2008, 08:39 PM
Sounds like a missing item in the new precompiled rpm kernel. I dont use them so can say. Not using the 2.6.27.10 kernel so not sure if just that release has a bug in it or not. If I get time I may compile my own kernel out of stock 2.6.27.10, one from the srpm of this new release, and then the precompiled kernel rpm release from fedora.

Brian

Nipperspot
26th December 2008, 09:37 PM
FWIW -
I had no sound in kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686 until I tried Preferences -> Hardware -> Sound and tried the various lists of devices. I selected PulseAudio Sound Server and restarted to get my sound back.

megaloman
27th December 2008, 01:28 AM
From koji, perhaps:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=76110

thanks, I've tested that kernel and problem still is not solved :(

chepioq
27th December 2008, 11:56 PM
On koji site for kernel I see that:

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-160
- Disable AC97 audio driver power savings by default.

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-159
- Disable input beep feature in Intel HDA sound driver.


Is it the problem?

megaloman
28th December 2008, 02:23 AM
On koji site for kernel I see that:

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-160
- Disable AC97 audio driver power savings by default.

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-159
- Disable input beep feature in Intel HDA sound driver.


Is it the problem?

I don't know, kernel -134 works fine, -159 and later one are broken - no sound from headphones.

Thunder
28th December 2008, 02:36 AM
I have the same problem on fedora 9 with the latest kernel -73. I have a audigy 2 ZS and I don't use Pulse Audio.

chepioq
28th December 2008, 07:06 AM
OK I search and I see that in change log for the latest kernel of F9 (2.6.27.9-73.fc9)

Changelog

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-73
- Disable input beep feature in Intel HDA sound driver.


and changelog for 2.6.27.9-159.fc10

Changelog

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-159
- Disable input beep feature in Intel HDA sound driver.


and see all the changelog ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=76110 ) for 2.6.27.10-167.fc10 in particular this line:

* Tue Dec 16 2008 Kyle McMartin <kyle@redhat.com> 2.6.27.9-161
- Re-enable input beep code, but disable it by default.


I don't know if it is cause of the problem...

Thunder
27th January 2009, 11:44 PM
I have installed the newest kernel -170 for Fedora 10 but my Audigy 2 ZS is still not working... no audio... *sigh* :(

hysterix
29th January 2009, 09:22 PM
I have installed the newest kernel -170 for Fedora 10 but my Audigy 2 ZS is still not working... no audio... *sigh* :(

Odd, I updated to the latest kernel (2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686) and my sound is now back. I was using the older kernel as mine had no sound, but it updated to this kernel and the sound is now fixed.

Good luck!