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mccabe86
5th December 2008, 09:25 PM
Hi I found out recently that when i start uni next year i will be using fedora. So i decided to put it on my computer. However now i am getting various problems that are making me regret it :( the problems i'm having are:

1) When i insert a flash drive i get the following message

'Cannot Mount Volume'

2) When i try to download anything big or small i get this message

There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp...

3) I cant access any hard disks because it asks for a root password...?
I typed in the only password iv'e set on fedora and it didnt work.


I seem to be told i dont have permission to do a lot :/

Could anybody help me please

Gundumfx
5th December 2008, 09:40 PM
1) i'm not exactly sure how to explain that, maybe someone else will
2) are you trying to save to the temp folder? try saving to your home folder /home/YOURUSERNAME/
3) the root password is a password you supplied during setup, its sort of like an administrator password. either way its not random and you put it. the reason it asks is because for security reasons, linux DOES NOT allow the system files to be edited unless you are root AKA admin AKA superuser.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 09:50 PM
its seems to be telling me i have no disk space. Of course i have plenty of disk space and judgin by the answers google is throwing up it maybe something to do with the partitioning??? i try to download a partition manager program but obviously, ive no space to install it, so frustrating.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 09:52 PM
2) are you trying to save to the temp folder? try saving to your home folder /home/YOURUSERNAME/


I click a download link and before i can even click save to disk the error pops up

marko
5th December 2008, 10:02 PM
I click a download link and before i can even click save to disk the error pops up

Assuming you're using Firefox for downloading, go into Edit->Preferences, press the
"Main" button and in the Downloads section change the "Save Files to" value to your
home directory or you could use the "always ask me where to save files" check box.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 10:11 PM
Assuming you're using Firefox for downloading, go into Edit->Preferences, press the
"Main" button and in the Downloads section change the "Save Files to" value to your
home directory or you could use the "always ask me where to save files" check box.

But its telling me i have no room on the disk so wont let me download anyway

pwca
5th December 2008, 10:18 PM
Hi I found out recently that when i start uni next year i will be using fedora. So i decided to put it on my computer. However now i am getting various problems that are making me regret it :( the problems i'm having are:

1) When i insert a flash drive i get the following message

'Cannot Mount Volume'

2) When i try to download anything big or small i get this message

There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp...

3) I cant access any hard disks because it asks for a root password...?
I typed in the only password iv'e set on fedora and it didnt work.


I seem to be told i dont have permission to do a lot :/

Could anybody help me please

If you would like help in this matter you need to provide the forum with two seperate groups/pieces of information.

a) A description of your computer. In other words, CPU, RAM, Video Card, Hard Drives, etc...

b) Which version of Fedora are you attempting to install?

Without these two groups of information there's very little anyone can do to offer solutions that actually fit your specific situation.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 10:22 PM
If you would like help in this matter you need to provide the forum with two seperate groups/pieces of information.

a) A description of your computer. In other words, CPU, RAM, Video Card, Hard Drives, etc...

b) Which version of Fedora are you attempting to install?

Without these two groups of information there's very little anyone can do to offer solutions that actually fit your specific situation.


cpu - 2000ghrtz single core ram - 2 gig hard drive - unsure but quite big

b) i have already installed fedora 9. its now im having problems

pwca
5th December 2008, 10:33 PM
cpu - 2000ghrtz single core ram - 2 gig hard drive - unsure but quite big

b) i have already installed fedora 9. its now im having problems

Precisely. The hard drive is too small for a full install. That's why your getting the message that you don't have any disk space to write the updates too.

This is what you need for hardware for:

32 bit computer (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn-ArchSpecific-x86-hw)

64 bit computer (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn-ArchSpecific-x64-hw)

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 10:37 PM
Precisely. The hard drive is too small for a full install. That's why your getting the message that you don't have any disk space to write the updates too.

This is what you need for hardware for:

32 bit computer (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn-ArchSpecific-x86-hw)

64 bit computer (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn-ArchSpecific-x64-hw)

Sorry that was my mistake by poor writing.

I do have a large enough hard drive.

let me re-write

cpu- 2000mghrtz

ram - 2 gig

hard drive - definitely big enough because i already have it installed.

pwca
5th December 2008, 10:42 PM
Please open an xterminal and type:


df -ahl

then post results here.

This command will tell you all the hard drives installed on your computer and what partitions you've made on them.

Do you recall on which partition you've installed F9?

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 10:47 PM
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
2.2G 2.2G 0 100% /
proc 0 0 0 - /proc
sysfs 0 0 0 - /sys
devpts 0 0 0 - /dev/pts
/dev/sda5 198M 13M 175M 7% /boot
tmpfs 1.2G 48K 1.2G 1% /dev/shm
none 0 0 0 - /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc
sunrpc 0 0 0 - /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs
fusectl 0 0 0 - /sys/fs/fuse/connections
gvfs-fuse-daemon 2.2G 2.2G 0 100% /home/Mccabe86/.gvfs
/dev/sdb1 1.9G 837M 1.1G 44% /media/FEDORA



I dont understand this. Nowhere on here shows my hard disk it has at least 20 gig im sure

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 10:51 PM
i just checked the sticker on the front of the computer and it holds 160 gigabytes. It has not long been bought and nobody has had it open. begginin to regret downloading linux =/

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 11:06 PM
i just ran the command again but this time running from live CD and got this

[fedora@localhost ~]$ df -ahl
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/live-rw 4.0G 2.2G 1.9G 54% /
proc 0 0 0 - /proc
sysfs 0 0 0 - /sys
devpts 0 0 0 - /dev/pts
tmpfs 1.2G 48K 1.2G 1% /dev/shm
none 0 0 0 - /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc
/dev/sdb1 1.9G 837M 1.1G 44% /mnt/live
sunrpc 0 0 0 - /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs
fusectl 0 0 0 - /sys/fs/fuse/connections
gvfs-fuse-daemon 4.0G 2.2G 1.9G 54% /home/fedora/.gvfs



:S

pwca
5th December 2008, 11:09 PM
The sticker most likely is correct. However, when you installed F9 you created a 2 gig partition and installed F9 into that.

The easiest way to fix this is to just do a complete re-install and during the installation process make your partitions the correct size and fully use the drive rather than just some small portion of it.

As I pointed out earlier the reason you are getting the error messages about not having enough space to write files is due to the partition being full. No more room left. Plenty on the drive. You just need to properly size the partition during the installation process.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 11:12 PM
thankyou i thought that this was the reason, just a full reinstall seemed a bit dramatic lol, i will try that now thanks for your help.

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 11:12 PM
thankyou i thought that this was the reason, just a full reinstall seemed a bit dramatic lol, i will try that now thanks for your help

pwca
5th December 2008, 11:43 PM
Well, there are other ways to solve the problem of resizing your partitions it's just that...

a) I've not used them before
b) You also have LVM's present and I don't use them either.

I generally partition everything before installing using either:

a) Ultimate Boot CD (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/)
or
b) a live CD like Parted Magic (http://distrowatch.com/partedmagic) or GParted (http://distrowatch.com/gparted)

using these tools I generall set up partitions:

sda1 (aka /boot) = 400Mb
sda2 (aka "swap space) = if RAM is < 2Gb then 2 x RAM. if RAM is >= 2Gb then I make it 2Gb.
sda3 (aka "/" or entire file system) = the entire rest of the drive

I do it this way because I like to have plenty of space for the kernels (usually 4), lot's of elbow room for swap space and let the chips fall where they may for all the rest. But... that's just me.. you do it any way that pleases you.... so long as you make them big enough to write to later :-)

mccabe86
5th December 2008, 11:46 PM
i reinstalled, same problem, dont know what i did wrong, will try again, gettin a sore head now.

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 12:19 AM
[mccabe86@mccabe86 ~]$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3 70G 2.2G 68G 4% /
tmpfs 1.2G 48K 1.2G 1% /dev/shm
gvfs-fuse-daemon 70G 2.2G 68G 4% /home/mccabe86/.gvfs
[mccabe86@mccabe86 ~]$



we have a winner =D

_Chipwiz_Ben_
6th December 2008, 12:48 AM
Just out of interest, which university will you be going to and what course did you take? I've never come across a uni that uses Linux on the desktop. Pleasant change though.

Regards,
Ben

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 01:21 AM
Funilly enough its your hometown! Manchester.

_Chipwiz_Ben_
6th December 2008, 01:26 AM
Funilly enough its your hometown! Manchester.

University of Manchester? University of Salford? Manchester Metropolitan University? Huddersfield University - Oldham Campus?

There are a lot of universities in Manchester:rolleyes:

What are you studying?

Ben

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 01:31 AM
the university of manchester - maths and computer science. Im also from manchester (greater manchester)

pwca
6th December 2008, 01:36 AM
@ mccabe86
Pleased to see you've managed to get the partitioning done correctly. Hopefully that will solve all of your issues.

@_Chipwiz_Ben_
No kidding and those are just the Uni's you've listed... there's also the colleges around the area as well that he could have matriculated at.

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 01:42 AM
do you guys know why the sound is so quiet?

im currently downloading '406 updates'

is this likely to solve the sound issue?

_Chipwiz_Ben_
6th December 2008, 01:55 AM
the university of manchester - maths and computer science. Im also from manchester (greater manchester)

I'm also from the Greater Manchester area. I'm at the University of Huddersfield though. Good luck using Linux at uni, seriously. They won't make it easy for you. They certainly haven't for me; it's all pro Windows here. Proprietary formats all over the place. I've even written some papers on Linux for my course - they don't take note.

Keep at it, though. I sure as hell will.

@pwca
Yeah, there are probably hundreds of colleges in Greater Manchester, especially if you include all the sixth forms.

pwca
6th December 2008, 01:57 AM
do you guys know why the sound is so quiet?

im currently downloading '406 updates'

is this likely to solve the sound issue?

More like as not it will hose it. I've never trusted updates in this regard. At the present I'm running F9 and the sound is okay with all the current updates but that doesn't really mean much as we've most likely different sound cards, etc...

_Chipwiz_Ben_
6th December 2008, 01:57 AM
do you guys know why the sound is so quiet?

im currently downloading '406 updates'

is this likely to solve the sound issue?

It might.

Try opening the volume control and making sure the sliders aren't right down.

Ben

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 02:12 AM
No the sliders are fine. A quick google search made me realise this is a common problem. I thought linux was supposed to be good lol.

_Chipwiz_Ben_
6th December 2008, 02:16 AM
No the sliders are fine. A quick google search made me realise this is a common problem. I thought linux was supposed to be good lol.

Results 1 - 10 of about 677,000 for linux sound problems. (0.28 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,320,000 for windows sound problems. (0.19 seconds)

:)

We need a bit more information than that if we're to help you fix your sound.

Try switching your sound manager.

Ben

mccabe86
6th December 2008, 02:24 AM
Results 1 - 10 of about 677,000 for linux sound problems. (0.28 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,320,000 for windows sound problems. (0.19 seconds)

:)

We need a bit more information than that if we're to help you fix your sound.

Try switching your sound manager.

Ben

Haha thats makes windows look so much worse to many. However compare the amount of people that use windows, to the amount of people that use linux, and really linux isnt really living up to its name =/
I dont know how to switch the sound manager =/ it really is the first day ive ever used this lol.

marko
6th December 2008, 03:12 AM
But its telling me i have no room on the disk so wont let me download anyway


Can you post what this says when run in a terminal:



df -a


this will show all the disk usages and free space