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imdeemvp
6th July 2004, 04:01 PM
I just curios and wanted to know how techie are we in the fedora community! :D

So please answer the poll....

I built my system and here are the specs:

AMD Athlon XP 2800+ (2.07ghz)
DFI Motherboard
1256mb 3200mhz DDR
Dual Layer DVD +/- Burner 16x | DVD Player
CD Burner 52x
Maxtor 80GB Hard Drive
Maxtor 200GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA 5200 256mb
DSL Connection
XP Pro and FC 4 Dual Boot

Compaq AMD Turion Laptop
DVD Burner/Player
60GB HD
Integrated 54 Wireless
XP home and FC 4

crackers
6th July 2004, 04:45 PM
Judging from early results, looks like we have a home-brew club. I'm not entirely surprised. Processor selection might also be interesting...

AMD Athlon XP 2100
ASUS Motherboard
512Mb PC2700
Maxtor 30Gb
PNY (NVidia) 5200 dual-head plus TV (128Mb)
Cable modem
Note: the only time the hard-drive's had Windows on it was when I was using VMWare.

My wife's is also a custom job, but somewhat lower on the processor and video card - she's not into running three to four JVM's at once...

sailor
6th July 2004, 04:47 PM
My main machine is a Gateway 500s 1.8 GHZ P4 256 ddr ram nVidia Geforce mx 200 40GB + 80 GB WD HD...Cable connection ...FC2/ Win XP dual boot...
My second machine is a AMD k-6 300 MGHZ I don't remember what is in it now ...this one I bought the box,power supply and mobo I put the rest of the stuff in it ...Win 2000 ...Cable connection
My third machine is a Acer Acros 75 MGHZ Pentium... 32 MG ram... SB16 6... GB HD ...Win 95 ...used as doorstop
WIfe's computer is a Dell Latitude P3 1200 MGHZ....384 MB ram....40 GB HD....WinXP...Ethernet / PCMCIA
looks like I have one of each of the most popular categories..:)

imdeemvp
6th July 2004, 05:18 PM
crackers i agree with you and i forgot to include AMD or Pentium based.

Varkk
7th July 2004, 01:02 AM
I built my P4 power house myself nearly 2 years ago, some minor upgrades since then.

P4 1.8 jigglyhertz
512MB PC3200 <--one of these days I will pop in another stick to make it 1GB
Gigabyte Motherboard (SiS 648 chipset)
40GB 5400RPM seagate HDD
80GB Seagate BarracudaV HDD
128MB GeForceFX5900
Aopen4048 CDRW
Liteon812S DVD+/-RW
420W power supply

I am getting the itch to upgrade this machine, would love to play with an AMD64 box...

cyborg
7th July 2004, 01:41 AM
I built mine myself I'm 13, and i'm pleased with it. I've enclosed a picture of it. It has a 1gig AMD Duron, ATI Ratheon 7000, 20gig Maxtor, Pioneer 12x CD & Lite-on 52x24x52 Burner. Xp and FC2. ;). I'm starting another one, its only going to be Pentium3 but thats all I could find.

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Viro
7th July 2004, 01:55 AM
I've got an Acer Laptop powered by an Athlon 64. This baby absolutely screams!

ghaefb
7th July 2004, 02:08 AM
512MB 3200mhz DDR 3200Mhz ? really :)

my signature speaks for it self...

svizi
7th July 2004, 02:13 AM
I build mine specs below

2500-M @ 2400
Epox ep-8rda3+
512 kingston
120gb Maxtor 40 gb Maxtor
Ati Radeon 9600xt

And Fedora core 2

Ug
7th July 2004, 02:44 AM
Well my laptop is built by Toshiba, and its a Toshiba P10-804 if anyone is interested. Its specs are:

A widescreen high definitiion 15.4" LCD screen (default 1920 x 1600 resolution)
P4 3 Gig HT
512mb Ram
60gb HD
DVD-RW
64mb Nvidia Geforce FX

Our other boxes (all 4 of them) are all custom built, and range from a P2 233Mhz through to an Athlon AMD XP 1800+. So we have a fair range, but I primarily use my spangly laptop.

Picomp314
7th July 2004, 02:50 AM
I built my computer, it is the first one I built, and it is my first computer to entirely own.
The anniversary of me using a PC (x86) will be 3 years in August, and this computer will be 2 years old this Christmas.

Athlon XP 2200
ECS k7s5a
512 PC 2100 DDR
80 GB + 160 GB Western Digital HDs
Geforce 2 MX400
52x CD-R/W ( i have no need for dvd)
Soundblaster Live 5.1

Prometheus
7th July 2004, 05:56 AM
Made my own. Bought all the parts online (except the monitor which would have cost a fortune to ship)

AMD Athlon 2700+ (OC'd a little bit) with nice Vantec cooler
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe (definately not the best linux mobo)
1 gig PCI 3200 DDR (2 512 sticks @ 3200) BTW, PCI 3200 runs at 400mhz, not 3200, the 3200 is with the memory multipler
ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (OC'd of course)
120 gig Maxtor IDE hdd
8 gig WD hdd (back up drive)
1 gig Seagate Drive (blank right now i think)
52X CD-r?rw
Toshiba DVD drive
17in monitor, and on and on and on

Fun to build though, he he he, you know were bad when we start reminicing and smiling "about the time when we built a pc"

fjleal
7th July 2004, 06:00 AM
A widescreen high definitiion 15.4" LCD screen (default 1920 x 1600 resolution)

Wow! And people say my 1400x1050 on a 15" TFT is too much...

f_favila
7th July 2004, 06:52 AM
Well, I stop building computers when I started using laptops. Laptops are all I use now. :D I have a Gateway 400SD and an iBook G4 800Mhz 12". The Gateway is a dual boot with WinXP and Fedora Core 2. The iBook runs OS X 10.3 Panther.
:)

Jman
7th July 2004, 10:34 AM
HP Pavilion 503n. Not very fast, but not very expensive, and I didn't have to put it together.

I admit I upgraded the RAM and hard drive.

imdeemvp
7th July 2004, 02:03 PM
My Kids PC:

AMD Athlon XP 2200+
20GB HD WD
384MB pc133 sdram
ATI Redeon 8500 64mb DDR
XP/FC2
Modded Blue Lights

my backup pc:

p3 1ghz
256mb pc100 sdram
20gb hd WD
Win2K/FC2
Modded with USC Logo and redlights

gasnyder3
7th July 2004, 02:10 PM
Self Built:

System: AMD AthlonXP 3200+
Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro 2 MB
512 MB Geil Dual Channel DDR 400
Gainward FX5900XT Golden Sample 128MB Ram
Western Digital Raptor 74 GB 10,000 RPM SATA HD
SB Audigy Platinum Pro II/Altec Lansing 5.1 Speakers
XM Satellite PCR
ECS TV Capture Card (not working)
Lite On 8X DVD Burner
Optimus Turntable (i like to record old LPs)

Currently Dual Booting WinXP Pro/FC2 (until that tv capture card is working) then bye bye Winblows!!!!!

Networked with wife and son's computers. 2 Athlon XP 2500's, built by myself both running WinXP

All: "Behind a Smoothwall poweredFirewall"

cathal
7th July 2004, 02:15 PM
Built all myself...

MAIN MACHINE
AMD XP3200+
ASUS A7V8X-X Motherboard
120 GB HD
512 3200 DDRRAM
MSI Geforce FX5900XT Graphics Card
MSI DVD/RM DRIVE
Soundblaster sound card

Thanks to komplett.ie for all above :)

Harryc
7th July 2004, 02:28 PM
Build all machines myself, have for years. I'd guess this is the 20th or so iteration...

ASUS K8V Deluxe Mainboard
AMD64 3000+ o/c to 3400 (2.2ghz)
512mb PC3200
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Antec 480 power in an Antec P-160 case
Corsair Xtreme water cooling system
2x36gb Raptor Raid 0
1x160gb Seagate (with FC2 on it)
NEC DVD/RW
Plextor CD/RW
NEC LCD - 1760v

jzke
7th July 2004, 02:37 PM
I built this myself...

Athlon XP 2500+
Gigabyte nForce 2 Ultra 400 M/B
Radeon 9600 Pro 128mb
512mb
40g hard drive (I know but I haven't filled half of it yet anyway)

I worked out at the time (about one year ago) that this was about $400 australian dollars cheaper than buying it from one of the big name brands (IBM, Dell, HP/Compaq)

Like I said, I got this about 1 year ago, and it still runs fast enough for me :)

ewdi
7th July 2004, 04:38 PM
I just built another one

AV8 and Athlon 64 3500+
TwinX1024 Corsair
GeForce FX 5900XT

now i got spare, SK8N and FX-51 ( i like this combo however i keep having problem with RHLE 3 update 2 )

crackers
7th July 2004, 05:09 PM
I don't think we need another survey over CPU choices - it's pretty clear so far, early in the poll...

aditrus
7th July 2004, 05:32 PM
Mobile:

Dell Inspiron 5100
Intel P4 2.8Ghz
Intel 845G chipset
ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 32mb
256Mb RAM
10/100 Broadcom Ethernet NIC
56k Broadcom modem
D-Link DWL-650+ PCMCIA 802.11b+
Samsung DVD+CD-RW combo drive
External 6 in 1 memory card reader

Home Desktop

Asus P3BF motherboard
Intel P3 500Mghz
Intel 440BX chipset
Nvidia GeForce2MX 64mb
512Mb RAM
3com NIC (forgot series model)
USR Message Modem serial external
Mitsumi CD-ROM drive
Samsung DVD+CD-RW combo drive
17" Mag CRT monitor
Creative 128 Vibra sound card
Atltec lansing subwoofer and speakers

genci
7th July 2004, 09:58 PM
Built this computer 14 months ago - it was my first attempt at a complete DIY and it booted first pop :D. It has the compulsory "Linux Inside" case badge as well :p

System:
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz
ASUS P4PE motherboard
Leadtek A280LE Geforce4 Ti4200 (64MB) graphic card
LifeView PCI TV/FM Tuner Card (Philips saa7134)
1024 MB PC2700 RAM (Transcend)
Samsung 248B CD-RW
40gig Maxtor 7200 rpm HDD
80gig Western Digital 7200 rpm HDD
Embedded USB2 7in1 Cardreader
17" LCD Philips 170B4 monitor
Case iCute 8310SL

imdeemvp
7th July 2004, 11:06 PM
can WE say AMD RULES!!! :D

in the pcworld magazine AMD was given 1st price for product of the year !!! :D

Varkk
8th July 2004, 01:16 AM
CPU means nothing, it is all in the motherbopard chipset, choose that and then get the CPU which fits. (well it is a bit more complicated than that but it is the best simplification I can think of right now)

aditrus
8th July 2004, 01:39 AM
I say the BUS speed and the efficiency and combination of chipset technology that helps a great configuration :rolleyes:

Ug
8th July 2004, 02:18 AM
Wow! And people say my 1400x1050 on a 15" TFT is too much...It's so sharp and easy to read its unbelievable. There's no way I can work in 1024 x 768 now. I have too much space, to give any up easily.

mick
8th July 2004, 04:58 PM
(Ya know, I've been waiting for this...)

It beats knockin' myself out trying to come up with a good mobo/cpu/mem/vid combination. Even though I promised my wife I'd wait for six months to upgrade but y'all have provided some really great information for when it comes time - that's right, I've never built my own... Soon, though, my freinds, soon and then --- mwahahahaha!!! *wrings hands and laughs maniacally*

jtang613
8th July 2004, 06:07 PM
I purchased the parts from my local vendor and assembled everything from scratch. It's 1.5 years old but still keeps pace with the latest - a little tweaking and TLC goes a long way. I use FC2 95% of the time, but keep WinXP Pro on my removable drive for those rare instances that its needed.

My rig:

AMD AthonXP 2200+
512Mb PC2100 DDR
GF4 Ti4200 128Mb DDR 4x AGP
Asus A7V266-e mobo
2 - 60Gb 7200rpm RAID-0 (120Gb total array size)
1 - 60Gb 7200rpm removable
16x DVD ROM
8x DVD+/-RW
MSI TV@nywhere w/remote
SB Live 5.1
3Com 3C905B-TX 10/100

Samsung SyncMaster 753DF 17" Flatscreen CRT ( .20 dp - BEAT THAT! ) 1280x1024
27" TV at 1024x768 - second monitor (for movies and games)

Other goodies:
- MS Optical Wireless mouse
- Logitech Quickcam Express
- HP DeskJet 810C

Yeah, it might not be new, but it does what I need it to - and it does it well.

allensco
8th July 2004, 06:32 PM
My own creation:

Shuttle AK31 mobo w/Via chipset
AMD Athlon 1.4 ghz processor w/Speeze cooler
1 gig Corsair PC2100 DDR RAM
Nvidia GeForce2 MX400 64 mb AGP
40 gb Western Digital HD (Fedora Core 2 - main OS)
40 gb Maxtor HD (Win 2K - only used sometimes)
Sony DRU-510A CD/DVD writer
Creative 8432 CD writer
Iomega 100mb internal Zip drive
Standard 1.44 mb floppy drive
KWorld DV/AV Expert Capture/TV tuner card w/remote control (not supported by Linux yet)
AOpen 10/100 ethernet card (realtek 8139 chip)
SoundBlaster soundcard w/Altec Lansing Series 100 speakers (2.1 setup)
MicroTek 815C 18" flat panel display (black)
Logitech Optical USB mouse
Standard IBM ps/2 keyboard (black)
All wrapped in a Chieftec case in the basic beige color with a "Linux Inside" badge on the front
and a few custom-cut (by me!) vinyl graphics for decoration.
Jacked into the net by cable modem (I think that's all of it!)

This system will be 2 yrs old this Christmas and has run Mandrake 8.1, RH 9.0 and now Fedora Core 2. Latest additions over the past 12 months include bumping the ram from 512 to 1 gb, the GeForce2 MX400 64 mb AGP card which replaced the old GeForce2 MX200 32 mb AGP card, the Sony DRU-510A DVD writer, the KWorld TV/Capture card, the flat panel display and the speaker system. I still have a Win2K drive to use every now and then...but Fedora Core 2 gets 95% of the duty in my home. All parts were bought online except the case, display, speakers and the new video card. Got them from a local dealer.

Xeophonix
8th July 2004, 07:06 PM
I built mine myself in January:

AMD Athlon XP 2500 AQXEA @ 2422mhz 1.9v - Thermalright SP97 w/92mm Tornado
Abit NF7-S [tictac D24 3d lite]
512Mb Corsair TwinX DDR400
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro -> Flashed to XT (r350 core though :( )
120gb SATA Seagate Barracuda
60gb IDE IBM Hitatchi

AliOop
8th July 2004, 07:22 PM
Reading the specs, I find myself needing a bib-I'm drooling. I've got two used PIIIs. My main box, a Dell Optiplex GX1, has a 550mhz with 256 mg of ran and the test box is a Compaq with a 500 mhz processor running 126 mgs of ram. The Compaq, because of the low ram runs sluggish. But that is to be expected. No problem with the Dell. But one of these day, What out! I'm gonna spend some money!!! Seriously, this type of poll gives me some ideas on what equipment works with Linux. And of course, I see most use AMD.

mick
8th July 2004, 09:18 PM
Thanks, AliOop; suddenly I don't feel so out of place - I run a Compaq Deskpro ENPIII 550mHz/384 at home, and a HP Vectra VLi8 PIII 550mHz/384 at the office. They may not be the fastest things on earth, but under Linux they seem to do just fine. However, I share your sentiments about time, AMD's and spending some money... :D

crackers
9th July 2004, 04:22 PM
You'd be surprised at how cheap it actually is to build a pretty decent machine vs. buying a pre-built job. Firstly, no Microsoft "tax"... My mobo/processor/memory/video card cost less than $500US, all new and close to "state-of-the-art" (at the time).

My big hint: if going "new," get a case/powersupply that is far above and beyond what you'll actually need. Example: my case is approaching 3 years old and has had 2 different motherboards in it - Athlon 1Ghz and now the XP 2100. I can even go to 64-bit next year (with the wife's permission, of course) and still have plenty of juice on the power-supply to fire up two new SATA drives, along with everything else I've already got in there. Just make sure you've got plenty of air-flow (4 case fans and two on the power supply - this thing's a bit noisy).

Varkk
9th July 2004, 04:45 PM
Just make sure you've got plenty of air-flow (4 case fans and two on the power supply - this thing's a bit noisy).


Or go with water cooling ;)
But it really is quite affordable to build your own system, my P4 initially cost me about $400US to put together, but then I went and spent an insane amount on a new videocard then a new PSU to power it. But that PSU should now last me another upgrade cycle or two, unlike the nasty generic PSU which came with my case.

mark
9th July 2004, 06:26 PM
I guess I buck the trend in a couple of ways. My primary system (which I spec'd and had built by one of my company's vendors):

Intel 865GLC main board (w/on-board ExtremeGraphics II display adapter, 10base100 Ethernet, AC97 audio, 6 USB ports, 3 PCI slots and 1 AGP 8X slot)
Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz/800 MHz FSB/HyperThreading
512MB DDR400 RAM
Western Digital WD1200JB 'Caviar' 120GB HD
Lite-On SOHW-812S DVD-R+W/CD-R+W combo optical drive

all in a very basic black mid-tower case (1 CPU, 2 case fans), PS rating unknown (and I'm too bleedin' lazy to open it up and look right now!). Currently I have FC2 (~42GB) and Win2K Pro (~10GB, mainly for work-related stuff) installed, leaving plenty of head room for future experimentation.

My spare/backup/mobile system is a Sony VAIO PCG-GRZ610 laptop (2GHz P4, 256MB RAM, 40GB HD, DVD/CD-R+W, FastEthernet, 3 USB, 1 IEEE-1394), with FC1 as the only OS.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I had my desktop built by a guy my company's done business with for several years. He gave me a pretty good deal ($690.00 US), saved me time and aggravation and I'd already built several (in excess of 100) computers in my previous career. As for sticking with Intel, well, I guess I just felt more secure with that path...and I'm very pleased with my choice, so far.

imdeemvp
9th July 2004, 07:27 PM
by the way guys and this is for the local people in the states....i sell motherboards, ram, hds, and cpu's on www.ebay.com just look me up as imdeemvp (also my ebay user id) and not only that i have great deals :D

TopDog
10th July 2004, 01:44 AM
My main PC / Server runs Mandrake 10.0 and I buildt it myself:

* Shuttle XPC SN41G2 (modified with the new SilentX PSU)
* AMD Athlon XP2400+ 2.0GHz
* DDR 2700 RAM 512MB, 333Mhz
* Seagate 80GB ATA100 7200rpm
* IBM 40GB ATA100 7200rpm
* LG Super Multi DVD Drive
* LG Studioworks 560LS 15' LCD monitor
* Logitech Ultra Flat keyboard
* Logitech Cordless Trackman
* Trust 410 Bass Headset
* Epson Stylus Color 740

And my second PC, is an old laptop running Fedora Core 1:

* Dell Latitude CPi
* 266Mhz
* 128MB RAM
* 6GB HD
* AmbiCom WL1100B WiFi-card

I replaced the CDROM with an extra battery, and now this baby runs for 6-7 hours without power :cool:

imdeemvp
18th July 2004, 11:35 AM
TopDog...

can you say slow.... but it works...

And my second PC, is an old laptop running Fedora Core 1:

* Dell Latitude CPi
* 266Mhz
* 128MB RAM
* 6GB HD

peterskm
20th July 2004, 12:47 PM
I built every computer I use (except my laptop). Gotta have my AMD.

mohelgamal
24th July 2004, 12:23 PM
funny how Mr crackers referred to his wife as a custom jop i hope i can build myself a custom made wife

all i have is a custom made computer
p4 1500
Gigabyte 850 motherboard
256 rdram
40 seagate ata66
17" MAG monitor
Gigabyte Gforce mx32 sd ram
acer 10x 8x 32x writer
artec dvd 16x
brandless 56 modem
Gigabyte network card
512 kbit dsl (shared with friends)

it is a nice machine i built 3 years ago and still do the jop it costed me about 4500 LE ( around 1000 $)
I run winme winxp Resala linux (FC1 based arabic enabled linux) all by nt loader

also tried rh7 / knoppix 3.4 live cd / xandros oce

Prem0
24th July 2004, 12:39 PM
I build all my own except the lappy.

Fedora Puters
AMD xp2400@2.37
Abit NF7-s mobo
2x 256 Corsair pc3500
Maxtor 40g
Maxtor 120g 8mb cache
LiteOn 32x CDRW
LiteOn 16x DVD
LianLi PC65 with custom laser etching
5" slide out LCD in top drive bay

Toshiba 5005-s504 sattelite lappy

I did buy an IBM workstation off of ebay for $49 and its a p3-500 that is running an intranet w/ mysql and php

Windows Box I know but I gotta have one
AMD xp2500
Abit NF7
2x 256 Kingston Hyperx 3200
Western Digital 40g 8mb cache
Maxtor 160g 8mb cache
LiteOn 8x DVD burner
Generic case

It pays to build your own but if you get addicted then it will cost you in the long run :)

crackers
24th July 2004, 03:22 PM
funny how Mr crackers referred to his wife as a custom jop i hope i can build myself a custom made wife
Fortunately, she found this just as funny as I did! :D

Touche'! You got me good!

mohelgamal
25th July 2004, 02:49 PM
thanks to MR & Ms Crakers I am flattered ( is this a correct spelling)
I also forget my old computer the P II 300 on which i tried a system called BeOS which was a funny system installed by a windows program and creat a file 512 MB on a windows partition that it use as a partation there is a bigger version of course which is a real OS It is not quite linux but unix based os
I also assembled 2 computers fo friends but they wouldn't let me try linux on them

crackers
25th July 2004, 03:53 PM
thanks to MR & Ms Crakers I am flattered ( is this a correct spelling)
(Forgot the "c" before the "k" - but no harm). And "Ms" is quite accurate, since she goes by her maiden name - it has a nice "ring" to it when said aloud.


BeOS which was a funny system installed by a windows program and creat a file 512 MB on a windows partition ... but unix based os
I don't think BeOS is actually "based" on *nix, but is heavily influenced by it. I tried it, like you, with that Windows install (That was over 5 years ago!). I thought it was an interesting concept, but this was before there was much to it. And I thought it was ugly as sin, as well.


I also assembled 2 computers fo friends but they wouldn't let me try linux on them
Weenies! ;)

OberonKenObi
25th July 2004, 05:10 PM
Pentium 111 450 100mhzFSB , 256 SDRAM, 32Meg GeForce2 Vid, 1* 8G HDD, 1* 40G HDD,
FC2 as a gateway to protect my WinXP Pro box from itself and others :+) I upgraded the second HDD, Vid card and the RAM, the rest is a standard whitebox vendor made unit.

The following is a standard whitebox vendor made unit (only i needed a better Vid card and WinXP pro)

Pentium4 2.4 400mhz FSB (i think?), 512 DDR RAM, 64Meg GeForce4 MX440, 80G HDD, CD R +RW, headset+mic for the Teamspeak software so we can play our games better (why else would i have a windows box?)

Cheers
Lon

Princess Leah says "Help us OberonKenObi, your our only hope"
OberonKenObi says " No!! visit http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum, thats where REAL salvation lies"

mohelgamal
26th July 2004, 12:11 PM
actually i meant if the word Flattered is right but any way thanks have fun

crackers
26th July 2004, 04:22 PM
actually i meant if the word Flattered is right but any way thanks have fun
Heh! Yes, "flattered" is quite correct - and the wife really likes the "Ms. Crackers" bit, too. ;)

Lab
26th July 2004, 04:26 PM
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
ECS K7S5A Motherboard
1024MB PC2100 Crucial RAM
Maxtor 60GB Hard Drive
Maxtor 160GB Hard Drive
nVIDIA Geforce4 Ti4200 64MB DDR
Cable Connection (512k/256k)
Fedora Core 2

james016
27th July 2004, 10:39 AM
The one with FC2:

Shuttle Reflexion 20th anniversary box
P4 2.6Ghz
1GB DDR 400 RAM
Radeon 9600XT
Maxtor 200GB SATA drive

Also runs WinXP and Xandros 2

cavedweller
10th August 2004, 12:08 PM
I finally put FC2 on my home box and removed RH9.
The only thing that I haven't built in the house is my laptop. I finally got the go ahead to FC2 the wifes machine from SuSE 9.0. Her is mine and her's.
Mine....
Atop black Z Alien Case 500 Wat PS had to mod the drive cover abit to acomidate the fan controller I put in it.
ASRock Mainboard SIS chipset I prefer VIA but cost was the factor at the time.
P4 2.66 Proc with Coolermaster Jet4 heatsink and fan
Be for I installed FC2 I removed the EIDE Hard Drives and decided to stay with 120 gb Seagate Sata
1.5 gb DDR 333 Ram
NVidia 5200 FX Video 128 MB I still need to install nVidia's drivers for it but no rush
Sound Blaster Audigy Sound Card
MSI DVD DRIVE
MSI DVD Burner
Mitsuko keyboard and mouse
19 inch Princeton LCD monitor (it was a birthday present form the wife)
Running Kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2 no sata issues

Her's....
Aspire Case 400 Watt Power Supply
Biostar M7VIG Pro Mainboard
AMD XP 2400 clocked to 2600
Nvidia mmx 400 64 mb Video
Creative PCI 512 Sound Card
1gb DDR 2700 Ram
2 - 40GB 7200 rpm Western Digital Hard Drives
1.44 sony floppy
msi 52x32x52 drive
Phillips 32x12x24 drive
MS natural keyboard
MS nternet mouse
This weekend will be FC2

Biggest thing I can see I have to contend with this weekend after installing FC@ on her machine is getting the new Nvidia drivers to work. It is an easy install in RH 9.0 and SuSe 9.0, but from what I have been reading online maybe not so easy in FC2. I don't need the 3D it is just the principle of the thing. :)

circulus
10th August 2004, 01:04 PM
Hi,

I use selfmade box:

ECS K7VZA
Duron 1200MHz
256MB RAM
GF4MX440-64MB RAM
first IDE - SEAGATE 40 GB
second IDE- SAMSUNG 30GB
MEMOREX CD writer (40x read, 24x cd-r write, 10x cd-rw write)
TEAC CD-W54E (as the cd reader, is really "old", but burning perfectly)
SB128PCI sound card
Manli MuchTV 001 - TV Tuner with Philips saa7134 chipset.
250W ATX PS

and of course - FC2 with updates to 2004-08-09

works perfectly for me.

circulus

imdeemvp
16th August 2004, 07:09 AM
one day we will probably worry the major vendors and we are demanding more these days :D

now we can have an idea why gateway went out business and it was bought out by emachines...

we are getting too :eek: y

inha
16th August 2004, 08:00 AM
custom build. I like to be able to choose what's put into my box. I've been thinking that next time I update my whole system I'll build it myself. I should be cheaper too.

imdeemvp
16th August 2004, 08:18 AM
inha,

yes it will be cheaper........you will save at least $200-300 :D

carlwill
17th August 2004, 06:46 AM
nothing like custom builing your own box to exactly what you want and saving cash too :p

egurski
18th August 2004, 04:45 PM
I have 6 Linux machines. Plus 2 I built at work.

The specs are (Home systems)
1) Intel Celeron 1.7, 512 MB, 1 Maxtor 30GB and 1 Maxtor 40 GB both 7200 RPM
2) Intel Celeron 1,8 1 GB, 1 Maxtor 30 GB, and 1 Maxtor 80 GB both 7200 RPM (runs VMWare Wkstn)
3) Shuttle XPC SS51g, 2.3 Celeron, 512 mb, 1 Maxtor 10 GB, 2 NICS, (runs IPCOP Firewall - RH8)
4) Shuttle XPC SS51g , 2.4 Celeron, 512 MB, 1 Samsung 160GB 7200 RPM
5) Dell Latitude laptop 256 mb, 20 gb hdd
6) Compaq Deskpro EN Pentium III, 30 GB HDD, 256 mb

At work I have configured andother Compaq Deskpro EN and have configured a HP DL380 with Raid-5 (3 x 72GB), 4 Processors and running in SMP....

:)

emptyk
16th September 2004, 07:27 PM
I just finished building up my latest linux box. I now have 3 Linux machines, 2 of 3 home-built.

My specs are:
1) Dual Opteron 248, Tyan Tiger K8W (S2875), 2 GB DDR PC3200, 2 Seagate 160 GB SATA, 1 200 GB WD ATA

2) Dual Intel PIII 866, ASUS P3C-D, 768 MB, 1 x 18 GB Hitachi SCSI 10Krpm, 4 x 36 GB Hitachi SCSI 10K rpm RAID5,

3) HP (Compaq) R3000Z laptop with AMD64 3400+ , 1 GB DDR, 40 GB disk (Everything works EXCEPT the broadcom 54g wireless :(

imdeemvp
16th September 2004, 07:35 PM
"Everything works EXCEPT the broadcom 54g wireless", dont give up and do a forum search we may already have the solution :D

Shadow Skill
16th September 2004, 10:22 PM
Custom built all my machines (with the help of my brother.) save my laptops (Well the Dell is my mom's.)

Specs on my machine are:
Syncmaster 710n lcd 1280x1024 (17 inch) I can't look at 1024x768 any more.
Logitech mx duo for bluetooth.
Speakers I stole off my old compaq.....I need to buy new ones.
80 gb 7200 rpm (I believe it is a Hitatchi.) hdd (The primary drive, it boots fc2 and xp pro sp1 [screw sp2 that virus of an update.] )

250 (235 or so in reality even without an OS on it :mad: ) WD 7200 ide hdd

Guardian case with pulser led (Scrolls like Kit's red LED did in night rider. Seems to be something people love or hate, the ones who hate it seem to lack imagination imo.) red lightsaber multicolor case fan.

Biostar mobo with p4 1.70ghz overclocked to 2.07 along with overclocked ram.
Ram 768 mb 1 512 stick and one 256
Radeon 9000 128mb video card...Someone check my post in the ati driver how to thread and tell me wth is my problem. I need 3d support so I can at least know how to setup my card to use the tv out....


My Laptop:
p4 2.0ghz (God I wish I could overclock it...)
512mb Ram
40gb hdd
15.4 inch 1400x1050 screen
Tripple boots xp pro, win2k, and mandrake 10 (I need to find out if I can make an image of my fc2 dvd and make that boot from the hdd since my laptop can't read dvd +r's suggestions?)
Mom's Dell
It's a celeron..nuff said

Second desktop... see Dell

Finalzone
17th September 2004, 12:54 AM
I built my own computer. See the specification on my signature. I replaced the old case with a X-Case ICUTE 302 that is very expendable as I can add two more CD or DVD drive and 5 more HD. That dramatically reduced the heat on the motherboard and CPU (I replaced the default CPU fan with a CoolMaster Aero 7 Lite). I am waiting for the price drop for the RAM to use my motherboard at full potential. Too bad NVClock does not work for GeForce FX.

sayeeth
17th September 2004, 12:56 AM
My brain, my hands, my screwdrivers and my screws :D

DarkMasterMatt
17th September 2004, 01:32 AM
I have an W2060 emachines comp. Here are the specs:

Processor: Athlon XP 2000+
Memory: 512 Megs
Graphics: nVIDIA Asylum GeForce FX 5200
Hard Drive: 60 gigs

Sorta sucks but i'm trying to get a new comp.

imdeemvp
17th September 2004, 02:31 AM
I have an W2060 emachines comp. Here are the specs:

Processor: Athlon XP 2000+
Memory: 512 Megs
Graphics: nVIDIA Asylum GeForce FX 5200
Hard Drive: 60 gigs

Sorta sucks but i'm trying to get a new comp.

its cheaper to built on yourself............

DarkMasterMatt
17th September 2004, 03:17 AM
Yes, but I need money for it first. :P

imdeemvp
17th September 2004, 03:21 AM
is there a fry's near you?

they have some good prices in new cpu and mobo, also ebay has great prices.

WebWind
17th September 2004, 06:39 AM
This is my box:

AMD 2500+ Barton
GigaByte Via KT600 + firewire
RAM 512 MB
Seagate 120 GB Sata
Radeon 9200 128MB
Teac Combo drive

Dual boot WinXP and Fedora Core 2

imdeemvp
17th September 2004, 08:21 AM
i just got a new laptop

compaq amd athlon xp-m 2800+
ati mobile 128ram
512ddr ram
30gb
xp and FC2

for only $760......sweet :D

badfinger
17th September 2004, 02:13 PM
Well I made my built my machine mylself. Right now I have this:

Athlon XP 2000+
512 DDR
80GB & 40 GB
DVD-ROM
Discwriter (52x)
RADEON 8500 128MB RAM
powered by Fedora Core 1 / Windows XP

jale2ice
17th September 2004, 03:41 PM
I put my box together for the first time and I did a hell of a job. /me pats himself on the back...

See signature for details.

I must admit, I messed up when installing the processor. I put about a teaspoonful of artic ice on the CPU & Fan so when I put them together, it looked like I squeezed the cream filling out of a twinkie (exagerating, but it was way too much). :O

jale2ice
17th September 2004, 03:43 PM
i just got a new laptop

compaq amd athlon xp-m 2800+
ati mobile 128ram
512ddr ram
30gb
xp and FC2

for only $760......sweet :D

I want one... ;(

Nice!!! Where did you find such HOT deal?

ewdi
18th September 2004, 12:15 AM
now i need an intel computer, some of intel compiler execution did not work on athlon cpus :(

imdeemvp
18th September 2004, 01:48 AM
I want one... ;(

Nice!!! Where did you find such HOT deal?
i got it a Fry's or www.outpost.com also ebay has them for about same price AND i forgot to mention DVD/CD-Burner :P

xsos
18th September 2004, 05:35 AM
I bult mine :D

My Fedora Box Spec

AMD Athlon XP 1800+
GIGABYTE 7VRX Motherboard
256MB 3200mhz DDR
WDC 40GB Hard Drive
ATI Redeon 7500 64MB DDR
AZTECH Dial-up Modem 56K
Dual Boot WinXP & Fedora Core 2
DV ROM Lineton 16x
Soundwork Slim Speaker
17" View Sonic Monitor

bamboo_spider
18th September 2004, 08:25 AM
What lucky folks you get to build your own power house

Someday I too will

till then its a P III Armada E 500 by Compaq,

PS Heard that now one can almost build their own laptops

imdeemvp
18th September 2004, 08:29 AM
bamboo spider,

yes some of us are very lucky thanks to our jobs and some parts here in the US are getting very cheap now a days

you can auctually build your power house here in the states for about $400

JamesH
18th September 2004, 09:27 AM
I built my Linux box which firstly ran Debian until I ruined the hard drive. I formatted it and put Fedora Core 2 on it, and it is one of the best OS'es that I have ever used. I am looking into upgrading the Processor, RAM and Video Card:

1.2 Duron
384mb 2800ram
A cheap motherboard. Onboard graphics.
1 x 40GB maxtor 5400rpm hard disc (the / fs, ive used about 10gb on that)
1 x 80GB maxtor 7200rpm hard disc (I have only about 15gb left, lol)

Well, its not great, but its good enough for me :)

imdeemvp
18th September 2004, 11:13 AM
JamesH,

as long as it does the job....its cool.

GreyGeek
18th September 2004, 05:13 PM
...snip...
Dual Boot Wins2K & Fedora Core 2
...snip...


I also dual boot Win2K and FC2 on my Dell GX260 at work! :)

Win2K crashed TWICE yesterday alone, and frequently hiccupps - freezes for a few seconds to a minute -- and the only recommendation from the support staff is 'scandisk, defrag and reboot'. Security patches are being automatically applied at the rate of 3 or 4 or more per day and it is causing problems with the VFP6 apps, breaking many of them and requiring coding workarounds to restore features mangled by the updates.

I use my workstation to program using VFP6, Boa_Constructor+Python, JDev + Java, Eclipse, and Oracle HTP.P generated webpages using PLSQLDeveloper 6.0. I also run pgAdminIII to manage a PostgreSQL database (8.0 beta) running on my Win2K and PostgreSQL 7.4 running on a RHEL3 server. FC2 (on the same box, of course!!) has not crashed once, or even hiccupped. It runs VFP6 under WINE, pgAdminIII, Boa_Constructor+Python, JDev+Java, Eclipse, KDevelop, Quanta and many apps W2K can't or that we can't afford. (Tight budget)

We are a Novell shop at work and I am looking forward to the day when Linux, seamlessly integrated with Novell directory and authentications services, is rolled out to many of our 400 desktops. Unfortunately, being 63, I may retire before that happens. :(

BTW, love your sig!
http://home.neb.rr.com/krepsfamilytree/
(Your bro since 2nd Wed in March, 1962!)

imdeemvp
18th September 2004, 11:49 PM
BTW, love your sig!
http://home.neb.rr.com/krepsfamilytree/
(Your bro since 2nd Wed in March, 1962!)

very nice indeed...God bless

Igoraus
28th September 2004, 03:44 PM
wihich comman to use to see what hardware is in my box?

Lovechild
12th October 2004, 12:14 AM
I built it... like a real man... and the ducktape industry keeps it together in working fasion.

imdeemvp
12th October 2004, 01:47 AM
wihich comman to use to see what hardware is in my box?
/sbin/lsmod will give a lot of info.

crackers
12th October 2004, 03:46 AM
wihich comman to use to see what hardware is in my box?
From the main menu, select System Tools -> Harware Browser

Sicily1918
14th October 2004, 12:14 AM
I fall under a couple o' categories...

Fedora Workstation:
Dell Dimension 4400
2.0 Pentium IV
1GB RAM
2x120GB HDs
Nvidia GeFCorce 4 TI4600

Windows Workstation:
Clone (put together by someone else)
3.06 HT P-IV on ASUS MB
1GB RAM
80GB HD
Nvidia GeFCorce 4 TI4600

Windows Game Rig:
Dell Dimension 4600
3.2 HT P-IV
1GB RAM
2x120 GB HD
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

Fedora Array Server:
Put it together myself.
Dual P-III 1GHz
1.5GB RAM
2x18 GB Ultra160 SCSI
5x250GB ATA in RAID-5 Yes, I'm crazy... :D
ATI Rage 128 ;)

wct1490
19th November 2004, 08:02 PM
I built my first pc this year
P4 2.26Ghz
256 MB ram
80Gb HDD Maxtor
8Gb HDD Seagate (last pc)
4X DVD (I took it from my last pc)
16X12X40X CD-RW
Integraded everything from NIC, sound card and video card
my little Logitech MX310 mouse
and well some parts that I don't remember thier specifications

Box with windows 2000 (why? I just don't like XP) and suse9.1
swiching to Fedora next month....wish me good luck!

:D

pbtpu40
19th November 2004, 09:13 PM
I have built all my Linux boxes. I have 2 major development/gaming boxes *one's got to have his entertainment. Both dual Processorrs.
Gemini: Dual P3 933 *soon to be upgraded* on a supermicro p3TDDE, with 1.25 gigs of pc133, Geforce 4 ti4600 128MB, 200Gig Raid0, total storage 460GB.
Apollo: Dual P4 Xeon 1.8Ghz *soon to also be upgraded* on a supermicro P4DC6 with 2 15000 RPM Ultra160 Seagate cheatas, with 2 Gigs of RD800, and a 256MB Geforce FX 5600. Also has 2 200 GB harddrives in raid 0, 160GB external, 160GB internal and another 60 internal, total storage 760 GB

I also build our fire wall which is an old machine, P2 266, and our network server P2 350, we dont need anything really fast.

megaprogman
19th November 2004, 10:44 PM
I have two computers, both built in house :

1. Pentium 4, 2.0 Ghz
1 Gig PC2100 Ram
40 GB hard drive (upgrade coming soon)
Geforece Ti4200 128M Ram
DVD/CDRW
about 2 years old.
Windows XP Pro

2. 1.3 Ghz Duron
368 ram
40 GB Hard Drive (with a second coming from computer 1 very soon)
Onboard Everything
Fedora Core 3, does the server thing

3. Laptop
Built by hp
specs at bottom
Fedora Core 3 (turning into my main pc)

imdeemvp
20th November 2004, 09:49 AM
From the main menu, select System Tools -> Harware Browser
Of course the gui method..... :p

GML3G0
22nd November 2004, 10:15 PM
AMD Athlon 64 3400+
1GB DDR PC3200 400MHz Memory
xStasy Radeon 9600XT 256 MB RAM
Maxtor 120GB SATA HD
19" Monitor w/ DVI-input
12x4x16x Plextor DVD Writer
Ultra X-Connect Power Supply (This thing is hot - no wire mess in your case. Comes with power cables and you only connect the ones you need to the power supply. And not the threaded wires; they're encased in a plastic tube) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=90849&CatId=1078

Dual boot FC3 and WinXP SP2

About to start building it right now and bought for half the price than if it was already made. If anyone has built their own PC can you PM me, I need to ask a few questions.

StoneBrooks
10th December 2004, 01:14 AM
I really need to upgrade too.
Just in time for the holidays.

AMD Athlon 1.5GHz
2GB PC133
256MB GeForce FX 5200
200GB maxstor X 2 (ATA 133)
21" CRT Mon.
6 year old Chassis :)

Went for quantity over quality. just need a new MB, Chip, and memory.

baz2a
10th December 2004, 08:50 PM
beautiful to read all the posts of custom built machines!

system specs
AMD Athlon 2500+ o/c to 3200+
1 GB DDR400
ASUS A7N8X-X
Geforce fx 5600 (with thermaltake crystal orb, never goes over 40C)
smc 2802w pci wireless card
sb audigy 1
40GB HDD for WinXP
200GB HDD for FC3

all running on a water cooling system. dangerden tdx waterblock, hydor L20 waterpump, blackice micro 2 radiator with 3 80mm fans and a 120 mm fan

Chas.H
11th December 2004, 01:01 AM
May 2000 Gateway... with some changes (growth, if you like)
1.1 Gh Athlon Thunderbird Processor
It started with Windows ME :eek:
Upgraded to XP the day it hit Wal-Mart :eek:
Complete reformat and installation of FC2- August 2004 :)
384 Mb ram (256 added by me)
One CD-ROM One Burner
Three Firewire ports
Four usb ports
One Floopy (good thing the door is plastic else it would be rusted shut.) :p
One Western Digital 40Gb HD
One 10/100 Ethernet Card
One Creative Labs emu-10k1 Sound Card
One ATI Radeon 9200SE video card (added by me)

chiku31
11th December 2004, 07:47 AM
CPU: amdXP 2600+
MB: ECS K7VTA3
HD: Mator 20gig 7200rpm; Mator 60gig 7200rpm
RAM: 512mb(DDR 2700)
Graphic: PowerColor radeon 9200se 128mb
Sound: onboard
CDwriter: 32x
Monitor: 19" Samsung 955DF
OS: Fedora Core3
ISP: ComcastCable

imdeemvp
11th December 2004, 07:58 AM
It looks like AMD has an extra edge over Intel. More AMD boxes. :D

harlequin
15th December 2004, 04:10 PM
Main Box -- made by me
AMD 3200+
Abit NF7-S
80GB Seagate SATA HD
1GB Kingston RAM
PowerColor x800pro
onboard sound
CD RW
DVD Drive
Win XP Home

Linux box -- an old compaq that I had scorounged bits from to build the one above
1.3GHz AMD processor (Thoroughbread I believe)
10GB Seagate HD
UWAVE2 (VIA chipset)
128MB RAM
GeForce2 Mx
onboard sound
(if I need optical drives I borrow from the main one)

yanik
15th December 2004, 07:57 PM
I always build my boxes because this is what I do for living right now. And I know some places just don't take anough care when building PCs. Mine are really clean, no cables in the way, easy to work and modify. I have been using amd CPU since the k6 era and I'm glad they're always getting better. With quality hardware you are less likely to have stability problems. I always tell people the one place you don't want to save money is on the main board.

imdeemvp
16th December 2004, 10:33 AM
I have been using amd CPU since the k6 era and I'm glad they're always getting better.
No kidding AMD 64 was the product of the year at the beginning of this year.

spin0us
16th December 2004, 11:32 AM
I build my main BOX under XP (cause my girlfriend worry about linux ! lol)

Penitum 4 16Ghz
Abit BD7
768Mo DDRAM PC2700
ATI Radeon 9200 TV-out 128Mo
Hitachi 120Go + Seagate 20Go
3Com 10/100 PCI ethernet
Sound Blaster 16 PCI
Pioneer DVD 106s Slot-in
Yamaha CD-RW burner

And my FedoraCore3 BOX is a DELL Latitude C610 laptop

Pentium III 1Ghz
256Mo SDRAM
Crystal 16Mo
Hitachi 20Go
3Com ethernet 3c90x

PhilD
22nd December 2004, 10:19 PM
Have built mine for over 7years now. Current setups...

This PC (Browsing/Work)
Fedora Core 3
Pentium 4 1.8Ghz
Asus P4S8X-X
512Mb DDR PC2100
Nvidia Quadro 4 NS 280
Maxtor 120Gb + 40Gb (IDE)

Server
Fedora Core 3
AMD Duron 1.3Ghz
Misc motherboard
512Mb DDR 2100
Onboard Video
Maxtor 200Gb + 120Gb + 120Gb (IDE)

Games/Movies/Music system
Windows XP (I know but games and powerdvd hold me back, will be dual boot soon)
P4 3.4Ghz
Gigabyte 8IPE775-G
1Gb Comprising of 2x 512Mb Corsair DDR 3200 running Dual Channel
Nvidia Geforce 5600FX 256Mb
2x 120Gb Maxtor SATA Drives RAID0

I'm really sad.. i know... but it keeps the room warm :)

Hiltonizer
22nd December 2004, 10:24 PM
home brewed

Athlon 2800+
1GB Corsair DDR333
GeForce 6800 256
EP-8RDA3+
Seagate 200GB IDE 8mb Cache
Lite-On 52x CD-RW
Pricewatch DVD-ROM


.... not to mention my vast amount of servers :-D

Adesso
23rd December 2004, 08:26 PM
Intel P4 2.4
GigaByte Motherboard
256 Mb DDR 133MHz Memory
Onboard SIS 64Mb
Sounblaster Live Value
Seagate 40GB & 80GB HDD
17" Viewsonic E70f
40x12x48 CDR AOpen
52x AOpen CD
56Kb Duxbury External Modem

skoona
23rd December 2004, 10:07 PM
I too build my own.

OS: Fedora Core 3, SELinux=warn, Filesys: XFS
CPU(s): AMD 2400+ MP (duals) retail coolers | Temps @ 100% util = 54.0c and 59.0c
Mainboard: MSI K7D-Master-L
Mem: 2-512MB DDR2100 (266mhz) modules
Disk: 1-IBM 120GB , 1-WD 40GB, WD-80GB
DVD: Toshiba SD-R5112 DVD-R(4w/12r), CDRW(16w/40r)
Video: ATI 9600SE (128M/TV-Out) AGP 4x
Tuner: ATI TV Wonder VE (Cable TV)
Audio: AOpen Cobra AW-850 2:1
PSU: Antec 400W TruePower (Dual Fan)
Case: Antec SX1030 Full Height Server Tower (5-80mm fans) | case temp @ 100% = 31c
FireWire: Zonet ZFN2600 IEEE 1394 (3 ports)
Network: on-mainboard 100mhz Ehternet, to Linksys BEFW11S4 Router, to CableModem

carbo18
1st January 2005, 09:08 AM
I build all my PCs.

3 PIIIs think I'll need to do some upgrading soon though :D Waiting for Athlon 64s 939 to drop a bit in price...

imdeemvp
1st January 2005, 10:20 AM
I build all my PCs.

3 PIIIs think I'll need to do some upgrading soon though :D Waiting for Athlon 64s 939 to drop a bit in price...
Same here I am waiting for price to drop too. Hopefully by the end of this new year price will be less.

Woad_Warrior
1st January 2005, 05:02 PM
I buils all of my own systems.
i'd love to upgrade to an amd 64 solution, but unfortunately, i think that'll be a couple more years. :-(

ITgeek
5th January 2005, 02:47 AM
We built this PC on rock and roll....

No but anyways, I built this PC 4 years ago and it still works perfectly today. Here are the specs;

1.8 Ghz Intel P4 (socket 457)
Intel Desktop Motherboard (D850GB)
256 MB RDRAM (PC 800)
Nvidia GeForce 3 w/ 64 MB
Creative Labs Live! 5.1 sound card
samsung 16x DVD
Plextor 24x12x24 CD-R
Promise Ultra-ATA 133 controller card
----Seagate Barracuda 60 GB (holds everything except for /home)
----Seagate Barracuda 160 GB (holds /home)
----Western Digital 8 GB (Got this out of my Xbox when I switched out the drive, holds Windows XP, just in case I ever need it.)

tardboy21
5th January 2005, 03:01 AM
this computer was built out of entirely free parts.

originally an HP Pavilion 6535

Intel Celeron Processor (466mhz) not as slow as it sounds suprisingly
192mb 133mhz SDRAM
30gig Western Digital HD
52x32x52 CD-Rw drive
some other nifty gadgets installed
dual-boot WinXP and Fedora Core 3

the processor and box are the only orignal parts. Want to run only Fedora but my ISP doesn't support it yet.

xikecongtu
6th January 2005, 06:53 PM
I'm beginNer try to built this system, please look at it and prefer if there any error. AND what other part do i need .Thanks

Processor & Chipset:
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with Hyper-Threading technology up to Extreme Edition at 3.46GHz (1066 MHz FSB, 2MB cache)
Intel® 925EX Express chipset

PRODUCT PACKAGE
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 775 Land Grid Array (LGA)478 Flip Chip Pin Grid Array (FCPGA)
Intel® 82925XE GMCH 1210 Flip Chip Ball Grid Array (FCBGA)
Intel® ICH6 Family: ICH6, ICH6R 609 Micro Ball Grid Array (mBGA)


Moterboard:
ASUS "P5AD2-E Premium" i925XE Chipset Motherboard For Intel LGA 775 CPU

Video:
PNY nVIDIA Quadro FX3400 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, Dual DVI/quad-buffered stereo, PCI-Express Model "nVIDIA Quadro VCQFX3400-PCIE-PB)"

Harddrive:
148GB (74GB x 2) Western Digital® Raptor™ 10,000 RPM w/16MB Cache

DVD & CD:
Plextor 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Burner with s/w and Black and Beige Bezels, Model PX-716A/SW,
SONY Black 52x32x52 IDE Internal CD-RW Drive, Model CRX230ADK

Sound Card:
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy® 2 ZS Platinum Pro High Definition 7.1 Surround with Dual Firewire (IEEE® 1394)
Creative GigaWorks™ THX® S750 - 7.1 700-Watt Speakers

Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling 510 Deluxe
Opti-UPS ES1500C 1400VA (980W Capacity)

Moderm:
US Robotics® 56K V.92 Performance Pro

harlequin
6th January 2005, 11:43 PM
I assume that you've already got the monitor keyboard and mouse.

There is nothing wrong with that setup as far as I can tell. But there is one question, why are you getting a 32bit machine, when you could probably get a decent 64bit one?

Uhlix
7th January 2005, 12:09 AM
that is going to be one expenshive machine =) i would prolly go 64bit also...since you are spending so much mine as well get the latest and greatest.

scarter
7th January 2005, 02:52 AM
I bought either a repo or bankruptcy closeout Dell Dimension with PII, 128K of memory, 24x CD rom drive and an 8G hard drive on eBay for $18.50 (from a seller called Tech Renew - highly recommended, BTW ).

It works great, and you couldn't put the parts together for that price.

xikecongtu
7th January 2005, 04:48 PM
I'm sorry but Iam new to computer field. What is the different between 32bit and 64bit....are you talk about the CPU..??

Thanks,

imdeemvp
7th January 2005, 07:20 PM
I'm sorry but Iam new to computer field. What is the different between 32bit and 64bit....are you talk about the CPU..??

Thanks,
Here is the DIFFERENCE EXPLAINED. (http://www.build-your-own-computer-tips.com/64-32-bit-processors.html)

xikecongtu
10th January 2005, 05:15 PM
Futher can I just buy any case set...? Does it have to be compatible w/ morterboard..?

imdeemvp
10th January 2005, 06:06 PM
Futher can I just buy any case set...? Does it have to be compatible w/ morterboard..?
The asnwer is no! Most people that build their pc always get enough power supply accoding to the needs of the mobo. I have an AMD 2800+ with 400watts of power. My pc never crashes due to lack of power. I recommend 400watts and up but most cases will accomdate for AMD and pentiums.

bander26
10th January 2005, 07:35 PM
I have 5 computers. Toshiba laptop-old, HP pavilion old AMD, 3 compaqs PIII's. Bought two of the compaqs on Ebay one for 65 and the other for 95. The third one I bought at a computer show for 135. I've added memory a couple of usb 2 cards, a DVD writer and all of them have CD-RW. Its an inexpensive way to go. Bill G's software alone costs more than my computers. I love linux

pcarlson
10th January 2005, 08:10 PM
I've 2 built my own systems running Fedora. Started with Core 1 and now am running Core 3 on both.
Machine 1
AMD Athlon 2500+ (Barton Core)
Abit NF7 MB
512MB Crucial PC-2700 Ram
80GB WD 7200 RPM ATA100 HD
ATI Radeon 9600 128MB Video Card
LiteOn 52x24x52x 16x CDR/CDRW/DVD Combo
Sony DRU710A CDR/CDRW/DVD+RW/DVD-RW

Machine2
AMD Athlon64 3000+
Abit MAX3-Pro MB
512MB Kingston PC-3300 Ram
200GB WD SATA HD
Matrox G450 64MB Video Card
LiteOn 52x24x52x 16x CDR/CDRW/DVD Combo

Both machines dual booting XP and Fedora

xikecongtu
10th January 2005, 11:11 PM
The asnwer is no! Most people that build their pc always get enough power supply accoding to the needs of the mobo. I have an AMD 2800+ with 400watts of power. My pc never crashes due to lack of power. I recommend 400watts and up but most cases will accomdate for AMD and pentiums.


What is the cheapest place to buy all the computer parts?

thanks,

dickinsd
11th January 2005, 01:48 AM
Well still got my HP Laptop - FC3 on it - lovely (but... (another post))

JUST GOT:

AMD 64 3000+ to upgrade my desktop - sorry guys but its still a Windows machine - There really are a lot less things to deal with in Windows.

BUT am really tepted to get hold of a 64bit FC3 for playing with - (Have ordered a free copy of Ubuntu 64bit - god knows when it'll arrive)

Dave

carlc
14th January 2005, 06:55 AM
I built my own, it is set to dual boot FC3 and XP. I have a 3 gig P4 (hyper threaded, 800 mhz, 1 mg cache), 512 ddr ram, and 128 Platinum GeForce4 128 meg video card. I have a 40 gig internal hd and a 60 gig hd (in an external usb case) that I use to store videos, mp3's, programs, etc.

AliOop
14th January 2005, 07:21 AM
I started out with used PCs because my family didn't want me to screw around with the Win machine. And just this Christmas I build my very first PC. Let me start off with the used one: It's a Dell Optiplex GX1. 550 Mhz PIII with 256 MB of ram. Runs just about every distro very nicely. Can't tell you about the mother board but it has an ATI Mach RAGE Pro graphics card. My new machine has an AMD Sempron 2800+ (2Ghz) on a ECS mobo (VIA chipset) with on board LAN and sound. I'm running it with 512 MB of PNY DDR 333 ram. And last but not least, Nvidia 5700 graphics card w/128ram. My first home built PC. I'm already thinking about building another one.

StephenH
14th January 2005, 07:53 AM
Self-built from a combination of new (internal parts) and used (case started out as a Gateway, acquired in trade)

Athlon XP2600+
EliteGroup KT600-A motherboard
GeForce2 video (64Mb)
250Gb Maxtor HDD
Linux 2.6.10-1.737_FC3 #1 Mon Jan 10 13:50:10 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
19" Scepter Naga X9 LCD monitor at 1280x1024

It performs quite adequately.

imdeemvp
14th January 2005, 08:09 AM
250Gb Maxtor HDD
Plenty space there.....did it come with ghost?

StephenH
16th January 2005, 08:02 AM
Plenty space there.....did it come with ghost?

It came with a MaxBlast 3 CD. It claims to have a drive-to-drive copy utility, but I didn't use it. Most everything on the CD seems to be for Windows, and I don't know if the DDC utility would even recognize, let alone copy, EXT3 partitions.

Regards,

Stephen

dnar
16th January 2005, 02:35 PM
Judging from early results, looks like we have a home-brew club. I'm not entirely surprised. Processor selection might also be interesting...


Hell yeah home brew rocks!

EDIT: I just realised your talking abour homebrew computers. :) Homebrew computers/Linux rock also. :)

AJB2K3
16th January 2005, 02:43 PM
I wanted a physicaly tini pc to record from sky so i got this -
VIA EPIA 10000 (1GHz processor, s3 graphics, via 5.1 surrond all on board),
256MB ram,
250GB HD,
Tevion Xpert TV7134,
Generic kb +mouse,
Generic DVD reader.
Btw this need to fit into a C64 case.

AliOop
16th January 2005, 04:42 PM
AJB2K3's post has raised an interest in small form factor PCs. I know the 'power' PC crowd will turn their noises up at such a machine but it seems that there is certainly a nich, and a growing one at that, for these small PC. I know this thread asks mainly who build you PC, I'd like to also know if many on this forum have thought about building a small form factor machine or have build one. And their experiance with them- MicroATX, miniITX, etc. The way I see it is, if Linux is being loaded on more laptops why not on a mini-ITX machine, for example. Apple's new Mac Mini could be the way to go for many who would not have a need for a PC with two HDs, multi optical drives or cutting edge video gaming cards. Any thought on the matter?

PolishSausage
12th February 2005, 04:05 PM
my mobo just got fried by static electricity :mad: , but i got it back last week and she's running great in my new thermaltake VA4000 case, cooler than its ever run!!! used to have FC3 x86_64 dual booting, but since i am still a newbie i figured i'd work with something that actually has driver/software support (although 64bit is definitely getting better!). i bought the laptop off of my friend to play around with wifi and use on campus, but have served me very well.

Desktop:
AMD Athlon64 3200+ (clawhammer core)
MSI K8T NEO
1GB Corsair PC3200 (2 x 512mb)
Chaintech nVidia FX5900XT
WD 120GB (xp)
WD 200GB (Shared storage + FC3)
19" ProView CRT


Dell Inspiron 7500:
PIII @ 500mHz
128 mb pc100 ram
12 GB hdd
DVD-rom & floppy in hot-swappable bay
15" screen

Sneltrekker
12th February 2005, 11:02 PM
got it for free, secondhand, was custom built. I added a DVD-ROM, and might add more later, but for now, I'm happy with it and not gonna upgrade in the close future, since I'm still learning Linux basics (haven't even figured out yet how to play an audio-cd or remove a CD from it's drive, so yeah, very very basic stuff ... but I still have high hopes it will all be worth it)

t3gah
13th February 2005, 09:02 AM
I picked "I BUILT MY BOX powered by Fedora Core" even though my FC3 install got corrupt during my beta testing and has been replaced by SuSE 9.1 Personal. Of which had an option to enable 3D acceleration in YaST for my AGP ATI Radeon 9200. I wish it was that easy with Fedora. As soon as I sort out this ATI 3D acceleration driver business I'm putting FC3 back on to it.


Specs:
DFI NFII Ultra AL Motherboard
Athlon XP3000+ *Barton Core* 333FSB CPU
Ultra 512MB DDR 400FSB RAM
ATI Radeon 9200 128MB 8x AGP
Seagate 40GB Barracuda UDMA133
Sony CDU5211 UDMA33 CD-ROM
Plextor PX-W1210S SCSI CD-RW
Seagate STD224000N Scorpion DDS3 SCSI tape drive
Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI PCI adapter
Teac FD235 1.44MB Floppy
Thermal Cool case w/600 watt power supply and (3) fans
Microsoft Natural keyboard
Kensington Expert Mouse trackball with scroll ring


The fresh install frame rate for the two operating systems are as follows running glxgears:

SuSE 9.1 Personal (kernel 2.6.4-default) - 10726 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2145.200 FPS

Fedora Core 3 (kernel 2.6.9-1.667) -1716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.200 FPS

roolegion
13th February 2005, 03:46 PM
I built mine in bits and pieces over time :

AMD Athlon 2400
MSI KM4M Mo-bo
512 Mb SD-RAM (did have 1 Gig, but the other stick died)
64 Mb GeForce 4 Video Card
120 Gig HDD with 8mb cache, running Fedora Core 3
120 Gig HDD running Win XP
Cdburner/DVD player
Floppy drive
TV Tuner card (haven't tested under Linux yet)
NB3 ADSL Modem
Lexmark X1150 (which _doesn't_ run under Linux)
Samsung Laser Printer ML-1710P (which _does_ run under Linux)
Oh, and some kick-arse case which makes it run about 3 degrees (i.e. Celsius) cooler

imdeemvp
13th February 2005, 11:59 PM
Lexmark X1150 (which _doesn't_ run under Linux)
I had a lexmark and got rid of it for same reason and got my old cannon bjc3000 working fine and it works will most distros....

kwarrior
17th February 2005, 06:38 AM
Dell Inspiron 8600
1.5 Ghz Pentium M Processor
512 MB RAM
64 MB NVIDIA GeForce 5200 Go
DVD-ROM drive

I needed a laptop, otherwise I would have built it myself

bdoney
23rd February 2005, 08:27 PM
Custom Built PC here, and wouldn't have it any other way!

Gigabyte K8NSPro Socket 754
1 x 1GB Geil PC3200 ValueRam
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.2ghz
2 x WD740GD 74GB Raptor SATA in RAID 0 (obviously not running FC3)
2 x WB1600JB 160GB PATA ( 1 Drive Shared, 1 Drive FC3 )
Samsung CDRW/DVD-ROM
Plextor 8x DVD-RW
ATI 9800 Pro @ 9800xt speed

I have a dual boot system with XP Pro (for VS.NET work and Games) and FC3 (total noob discovery mode).

Smitty
23rd February 2005, 10:27 PM
this comp was a friend of mine's which he built. Since I bought it from him I'm upgraded just about everything except the mobo and processor. I'm not sure about the mobo type but it's got an AMD 900 mhz athalon, ATI Rage 128 Pro, a surround sound capable soundblaster card (I can't be arsed to look at the model..lol), two Seagate Barracuda ATA II 20 gb hdds I for windows and the other for fedora, Western Digital Caviar 250gb hdd, 256mb ram. She's not new and she's nothing special but she works :)

linuxnewbiestu
23rd March 2005, 02:08 AM
I have 2 systems

my laptop : Toshiba P10-804 - used mainly for university / church media work
P4 3.06ghz
512mb PC2700 RAM
60gb HDD
DVD-RW
nVidia gForce FX5200Go 64mb
15.4 Widescreen TFT
Windows XP Home - may go to FC3 if MediaShout is ever released for linux!

my desktop - Advent T9302 (I think!) bought from Dixons UK, got a pretty good deal
P4 3.6ghz
1gb PC3200 RAM
2 x 250gb SATA Western Digital HDs
ATi Radeon x600 256mb PCI-eXpress
DVD+/-RW
DVD-ROM
TV Tuner / Video Capture
15" iiyama TFT - not bad only goes to 1024x768 though, but I'm partially sighted so that's ok!
Winblows XP Home / FC3 dual boot

I have built systems before, and would have built this desktop but after getting the deal I did at Dixons I couldn't resist it!

Gonna be building a new system for my cousin soon - should be fun!

yetti
24th March 2005, 08:45 PM
I built my own box:

AMD Athlon XP Mobile 2400+ @ 2.2ghz currently
DFI mobo
512mb pc3200
BFG 6800GT vid card
Plextor PX-712A DVDRW/CDRW
2x WD 80gb 7200rpm HDD
dual boot XP pro/FC3

mgor
24th March 2005, 11:45 PM
athlon xp 2800+
512 mb pc3200
60+80 Gb hdd
geforce fx5200 128 Mb
gigabyte something motherboard

all packed up in a lian li pc-60 alu case.

seb9898
9th April 2005, 04:45 PM
I built my own (always did that except my fist one, back in the 286's days...!)
Here's the specs:

Intel P4 3.0GHZ (Northwood core, stock speed)
ASUS P4P800 SE (didn't work with FC2, but does perfectly with FC3)
512 MB Corsair TWINX 3200-C2 (stock speed)
X-Blade Medium Tower case with an upgraded Enermax Noisetaker 370W PS
ATI All-In-Wonder 9600XT (Bought before "switching" to FC3, no TV-Tuner, sucks...)
Maxtor DiamondMax9 80GB 8MB cache
Pionner DVR-108 DVD Writer
19 inch flat screen monitor
Sound, Network on board (I wanted to buy a SB, but the on-board sound works very well so far...)

If I had do this one again, I would buy another video card and a separate TV Tuner; ATI is not the card of choice on Linux, but I learned from my mistake!

DaveW
9th April 2005, 04:56 PM
started building all of my computers 6 years ago. Got screwed on an AST (All in One...Merlin") 4066d and have built them ever since. Proprietary RAM that cost a fortune...Laptops are next... ;)

Tru
15th April 2005, 04:56 AM
I have built all my machines including the first one. My friend made me :) he wouldnt let me buy a prebuilt. Thank God to, I am now working my towards Network admin. I am currently running for my desktop a Amd 1800 dual proc on a gigabyte board with a gig of ram and a ati 9800 pro. I don't think I will ever go back to a single proc, unless its a dual core.

BAshworth
15th April 2005, 05:50 AM
My first compuer was an XT, which was before the days of form factor components, and the "build your own" era of computers.

My last store bought PC was an Acer 286....... notice I used the term "last".

Truthfatal
15th April 2005, 08:34 PM
This box is a Touch-Systems product (a.k.a. cheap no-name-brand)

My next one will be home made.... I just have to decide what I want it to be. ;)

mick
16th April 2005, 09:39 AM
Put in my two bits worth a few months ago when I was still using and old Vectra. :eek:

But I finally built my own -- :D

Gigabyte 7V400AM-RZ
Sempron 2400+ o/c'd to 2800+
1024 MB Kingston
40 + 120gb HDD
Onboard VIA this, that and the other
all appetisingly served on a crisp, golden-brown shingle...

Compared to the PIII/550, booting into FC3 seems to take only moments - can't wait to build my next box ;)

Mick

Knudson
16th April 2005, 03:51 PM
self-made pc and modded case =)

AMD A64 3000+ Socket754
MSI NEO K8T800
512MB Pc3200 CL2.5 Twinmos
120GB HDD S-ATA Seagate Raptor 7200.7
120GB HDD Maxtor (7200rpm 8MB cache)
Sapphire Radeon 9700 @9700pro with custom heatsinks
LiteonDVD drive and LiteON DVD burner 1653-s

next step will be a socket939 3500+ i think, maybe in aug/sept

chili555
3rd July 2005, 09:03 PM
I only have five...not quite enough for a family of two.

Mine is AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton
Asus A7V333 (doncha love eBay?!)
1 Gb PC2700 RAM
160 GB harddrive
60 GB harddrive
Plextor PX712A DVD+RW
Plextor PXW1210A CD+RW
FC4

Mrs. Chili is Intel Celeron 2.4 Ghz
Asus P4P800S-X (contrary to the prevailing wisdom, it worked great under FC2 but not FC4!)
786 Mb PC3200 RAM
20 GB harddrive
TDK VeloCD CD+RW
FC2

Two machines run headless doing Folding@Home 24/7:
Frankenputer is an Asus CUSL2
Pentium III 733 Mhz
512 Mb PC133 RAM
120 GB harddrive (I also use this as a backup server)
FC2

Plywood1 is an Asus A7V133
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
512Mb PC133 RAM
20 Gb harddive (hey, I had it lying around!)
FC4

And the only computer I didn't build:
IBM Thinkpad T23 (doncha love eBay?!)
Pentium III-Mobile 1.13 Ghz
30 GB harddrive (slow 4200 rpm model. Hello, eBay?)
384 Mb RAM
CD-ROM
FC4

imdeemvp
4th July 2005, 12:35 AM
(doncha love eBay?!2 of my laptops came from ebay as opened box items BUT new....save over $1000. Gotta love ebay!

pparks1
4th July 2005, 01:11 AM
I used to build all of my own machines, because I used to be able to save money. However, lately it is nearly impossible to build a machine and beat the prices offered by companies like Dell.

For example, I just spec'd out a Dimension 9100 (new model). P4 at 3.0Ghz, 1GB of PC4200 Ram, 160GB SATA drive, a 16X DVD Reader and 16X DoubleLayer/Dual Format Burner, 256MB PCI Express GeForce 6800, SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS, a 17" Flat Panel Display and a Dell 720 Color printer (it was free). Also included are case, motherboard (with RAID), keyboard, mouse and some speakers, 10/100/1000 Network card and 56K modem. Total price was $1428.

That price is really hard to beat. Not to mention, I like my computers quiet. My Dell's (a 4550 and an 8400) hardly make a sound. Overheating has NEVER been a problem, power supply has been rock solid. I have dual hard drives, dual optical drives, and an ATI 9700 Pro in the 4550 and an ATI Radeon X800XT in the 8400.

I've benchmarked both of these computers against my friends custom built rigs and honestly, my machines are usually a bit faster and significantly quieter.

However, if you enjoy building your machines, all the power to ya. I used to do it once and likely will again sometime in future.

imdeemvp
4th July 2005, 01:13 AM
Total price was $1428. You can still build your own box with same specs and save about $700.

kona0197
4th July 2005, 03:51 AM
I built my box but it don't run Fedora Core... :cool:

(It used to...)

imdeemvp
4th July 2005, 07:09 AM
I built my box but it don't run Fedora Core... :cool:

(It used to...)
What's running on it now?

nuaing
4th July 2005, 08:08 AM
Mine at home is:
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Elite Mother board
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400
256 Mb DDR memory
Seagate Barracuda 80 Gb
PLUS Fedora Core 4 freshly installed and runs well, though some multimedia still tuned up till now!
Built My own

At my office:
HP Pavilion t588d

cyanideoverdose
4th July 2005, 08:51 AM
built my own
AMD 64 3000+ 1.8ghz
Abit AV8-3rd eye motherboard
512MB ram
160gb hd
geforce fx 5200
soundblaster live! 24bit

and my wife's
amd duron 1ghz
Abit kt7a motherboard
512mb ram
80gb hd
geforce mx 420
soundblaster live! 5.1

whenever my comp gets an upgrade then my wife's gets new parts... :)

pparks1
4th July 2005, 03:18 PM
imdeemvp,


You can still build your own box with same specs and save about $700.

Could you please share with me the location where you buy your computer parts? If you can save about $700 from my price, that means you can get all that stuff for $700. From a quick look through NewEgg, I don't think it can be done. (Yes, that was a challenge)

1. 17" flat panel with decent specs. Brightness 300, Contrast 500:1 20ms or less At least $200
2. Nvidia GeForce 6800 with 256MB PCI-X. Approx $270 with rebates
3. Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Approx $90
4. Pentium 4 Prescott 800FSB, 3.0ghz . Approx $180

Those 4 items alone come out to $740.

The things that are missing

1. Case (nothing fancy)
2. Power Supply (something decent)
3. A motherboard (onboard LAN is fine, RAID0/1, 4 DDR-2 Slots, Dual SATA and Dual IDE)
4. 1GB of PC4200 RAM (again, decent quality)
5. 16X DVD Reader
6. 16X DVD-RW DualFormat/Layer burner
7. 160GB Hard Drive
8. Color printer---It was in my spec, even though included free.
9. Oh yeah, the MS tax (it came with Windows XP Home). I know you woudn't use it, but you said you could save $700 from my specs
10. 56K modem (probably useless, but was included)
11. Keyboard (might not need it, but was included)
12. Mouse (might not need it, but was included)


So, please share with me how you can accomplish the same specs but for only $700. (I want the hardware specs to be equivalent).

kona0197
4th July 2005, 04:55 PM
What's running on it now?

Ubuntu and XP Pro. :)

imdeemvp
5th July 2005, 08:49 AM
I get some parts from www.outpost.com which locally we call FRY'S and 3 times a week they have many savings cpu combos, ram and the goodies needed!

1. 1gig 3200 of ram $49 after $30 rebate (4200 is of the line but with a 256 video card you will not even know diffence!)
2. 160gb ide drive for $49 after $40 rebate (do you really need sata? and if you do just add $50 more)
3. 256mb nvidia for $149-190
4. cpu and motherboard combo p4 3ghz $200-250
5. dual dvd burner x16 +/- $60
6. 17" flat panel $200
7. SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS $65 (the SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1PRO will cost you over $200)
8. Case combo includes key/mouse and fancy NOT from fry's $50
Adding everything including taxes.....is about $950

SAVINGS= $680 because DELL WILL CHARGE TAXES and shipping!


PUT your money in my hands and I will make it strech! :D I have many local stores that compete for my money and the savings are HUGH!

pparks1
5th July 2005, 04:33 PM
My Retort:

First: Savings is NOT $680. My price of $1428 from Dell including Shipping and Tax. Don't forget, the parts that you are buying also have shipping which can certainly add up if you are buying from multiple vendors to get the absolute lowest price.

Second, I quoted specifically an Nvidia PCI Express 6800 with 256MB RAM. You cannot get this card for $149-190 as you stated. You might be able to get a card with a lesser chipset (5700 or 6600), but not the 6800. The cheapest 6800 with 256MB from Fry's is $349. So, we need to add another $100 or so to your price for a 6800.

Third, I'll take your high side on the CPU and motherboard combo. $250 is a little tight, but reasonable. Keep in mind though, I wanted a RAID capable motherboard with SATA and IDE capabilities. So, $250 it is.

Fourth: The case combo at $50 is fine. However, what about the decent power supply. If that case has a power supply, it certainly isn't worth much. So, let's add another $50 or so for a GOOD 300 Watt Power supply. I should probably include a 450W, but Dell uses a QUALITY 300 Watt model.

Fifth: We agreed on the flat panel at $200, the Soundblaster at $65, and the DVD burner at $60. We need to add on about $20 for a DVD reader to your price.

Sixth: We aren't comparing apples to apples on Memory. I'm looking for PC4200, DDR2. This is gonna run around $90 even from Fry's. Picking the 3200 above was sneaky because it could be had with a rebate. I'm not saying that performance boosts will be great, but you said you could match the specs....not the performance. So, we need to up your memory price by about $50.

Seventh: Since I am matching this part by part, I'll take you up on your offer to add $50 for the SATA drive. The performance might not be there exactly, but the dell came with it.


So, let's total this up so far.

1. 6800 with 256MB PCI Express. Corrected price $285 (and this is pretty darn low for this card)
2. CPU and motherboard combo. Agreed upon price of $250
3. Case,keyboard and mouse. Plus, I want to add on a decent power supply. $100
4. 17" flat panel $200
5. SB Audigy 2 ZS $65
6. DVD Burner $60
7. DVD Reader $20
8. PC4200 RAM. $90 (1GB, 2x512, DDR2)
9. 160GB SATA drive, $100 (I added on the $50 as you suggested).

So, without ANY shipping charges (and some rebates which we have to wait on...I hate rebates), the price of the above is about $1200. This puts savings at $220. (after 8-12 weeks for rebates).

I know some people are saying, HAHAHA, it can be done. Let's not forget a few other things

1. The box I spec'd included XP Home. Nobody here will use it, but average user will. $150 or so
2. The Dell came with a color printer. Again, not great, but it existed $50
3. The Dell had the useless 56k modem (i hope most are broadband users here) $20.


So, I just added about $220 onto the cost of the box. So, now savings is Nill.


My whole point with all of this;

It's very hard these days to build your own computer and save money. A lot of people still claim to be able to build the exact same thing and save all kinds of money, but like I proved here ( I think), you aren't saving $680. You still had to add on all of your shipping costs, REMEMBER. And you had to front alll of the rebate savings (some rebates don't come back and you have lost your money)

If you don't need an entire computer, you can upgrade a few parts and switch some stuff around and save some bucks. If you need an entire computer (because you want 2 fully functioning computers), it's DARN NEAR impossible to beat the vendors.

Like I stated, I do like my Dell because it's silent, it runs great and I've had 2 of them (one for 3+ years) without a problem.


Besides, I just like a challenge. Thanks for taking the time to respond imdeemvp. I've read many great posts from you on this board and have learned a ton.

I'm not out to get you or anything. I just love the build versus buy argument. It just so happens that you bit on my thread and claimed massive savings :). (Which don't actually exist).

kona0197
5th July 2005, 06:17 PM
imdeemvp - For the love of all thats good do NOT set him up with Intel's crappy processors. You get more value and better PERFOMANCE from a AMD setup.

Not to mention that the new Intel chips have DRM built in. :mad:

By the way do you live in Oregon? We have a Fry's up here as well.

keithmcd
5th July 2005, 06:20 PM
I've got a Dell Inspiron 5100. It came with Windows XP Home. Ugh. It's been formatted countless number of times in the two years I've had it and since February or so have had nothing but Linux on it (except for one day when I had the latest Longhorn build).

Anyway - Dell. Not sure what they'd say if they knew it was running Fedora when I have had to call tech support (hardware has crapped out a lot - already has a replaced mobo, cpu, hard drive, cdrom, bottom part of case).

pparks1
5th July 2005, 06:59 PM
kona0197,

Intel processors are fine. I agree completely that AMD processors generally do have more bang for the buck. When I custom build a machine (for myself or friends), i usually highly recommend the AMD setup. I happen to have an AMD Thunderbird 900 in my house and 2 Athlon 1800+'s (running as servers). They are all fantastic machines.

imdeevmp and I were comparing an apples to apples system. we were trying to compare a custom built box to a prefab from Dell matching hardware as closely as possible. I argued that Dell prices were next to impossible to beat. imdeemvp insisted he could save nearly $700.

Substituting an AMD processor in this argument would not be fair. We were comparing machine prices with the same spec, not the same performance level.

Trust me, I've been in this field for many years, I know what I am talking about.

pparks1
5th July 2005, 07:01 PM
Keithmcd,

Sounds like you got a lemon on your hands. We use a ton of Dell laptops at my business (all Latitudes) and we have a very small failure rate with them.

I'm sure that Dell wouldn't be too cooperative with you having Fedora installed. As long as you left the diag partition alone of the hard drive and could get to it though, they could troubleshoot your hardware for you. Although, trying to help you though any other type of problem over the phone would prove to be a challenge.

kona0197
5th July 2005, 09:04 PM
pparks1

Interesting debate you have going on. It's tough to beat Dell on prices.

As far as Intel goes - I work on computers in my spoare time for friends - if it has an Intel chip I suggest changing to AMD - and I don't allow Intel (Or country music!) in my house.

As YES DRM is a bad thing. Read up on it sometime.

Mojo
5th July 2005, 09:51 PM
OK....system 1 - My desktop

Self built but constantly upgraded.

currently housing:

AMD 64 3200+
512MB RAM (DDR 3200)
ATA 133 120GB Maxtor HDD
Gigabyte 128MB GeForce 6200FX Graphics Card (PCI-E)
8x DVD-RW Drive
16x DVD-ROM
802.11b USB wireless adaptor
Gigabyte GA K8NF 9 Motherboard
Windows XP Home

System II - My Lappy

Specs:

Built by Iridium, Model = Starbook 515

Intel (bah!) Celeron (bah!) 2.4GHz
30GB HDD
256MB RAM (Although 32MB taken by graphics)
48x24x48x CD-RW Drive
14.1" TFT
Fedora Core 4 (Although soon to be changed to a duel boot system)

CWireless49
5th July 2005, 10:23 PM
I didn't build either of my two computers I use now. I broke down and bought them at the store. The desktop is a Sony Media Center which is a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz with 450Gigabytes of storage and 1Gb memory. It has a 17" flat panel LCD. It rocks!!!!!!!!!! My newest acquisition is a Sony laptop which is a Centrino 1.8GHZ with 100Gb harddrive and 1 GB memory. Its got a whopping 17" LCD which does 1900X1200 resolution.

I have XP Media System on the desktop and XP Home and Fedora Core 4 on the laptop.

Everything works except still trying to sync the FC4 on laptop with Treo 650. I'm close to fixing it!

I do have one Pentium III which I built sitting under the desk. Thinking of dragging it out to play with new releases of Fedora! ;) ;) ;)

imdeemvp
6th July 2005, 02:10 AM
Wrong my friend, NO shipping in all the parts. I started with Fry's to see your response. But everything is local. In a 4 miles radius I have at least 20 pc shops and of course there is the SWAP MEET! and a ONCE a MONTH local sale on pc parts at reseller prices.~!

You can get everything from the swap meet brand new and in boxes at half the price from the local stores. And once a month there is a HUGH local sale in which you can get a lot of the above items for $25-45 and a brand new 17" flant panel for no more than $90.

SO you see if I go to the once a month local sale (this was the knock out-punch!) I can build you dream machine aka great deal from Dell for less than $600. NO TAXES and SHIPPING! :D

BTW, I am an AMD fellow and the case combo comes with a 450 watts of power supply.

pparks1
7th July 2005, 01:25 AM
Well done. You are lucky to have that many super-cheap pc shops in your area. I have a few here and they do have some good prices on things, but generally they can't match the selection of NewEgg, which is why I typically purchase from there.

In terms of the swap meets, I used to go to those as a kid with my dad. If you are comfortable buying parts for your machines at these computer shows, great. Personally, I have seen power supplies that weren't UL listed, systems sold as 450's (even though they were running overclocked Celeron 300 A's), rebadged monitors (they were actually Crap-Tec or something and they had a Viewsonik (i spelled it wrong on purpose) sticker on them), refurbished parts, name-brand-parts in a non-descipt box from Malaysia and other things like RAM, CPU's and VideoBoards just lying around in cardboard boxes and in display cases, so be it. My data, my pictures, and my life's work are too valuable for parts like this. Sure, you occasionally find a diamond in the rough....but there is a lot of rough. Most of the vendors take cash or check only and don't even ring you up on a cash register, they just quote some price and take the money. It's shady, at best. You even acknowledged the fact when you said that you paid NO TAXES. Hmmmmm, bought locally, and paid not tax.....INTERESTING (also not legal).

I'm sure that you can get yourself a 17" new LCD flat panel for $90. I'm also certain that I wouldn't want to look at it for more than 20 minutes. The key difference here is quality. There is NO WAY that the peformance of that monitor is going to come even close to the performance of the monitors that I was quoting (refresh rate, brightness, contrast).

A case combo that comes with a keyboard, a mouse and a 450 watt power supply for $50. I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY that power supply is delivering good clean power to your box. It's simply garbage, no arguing there with me. (I simply won't hear it). I wouldn't run a high power AMD processor, my hard drive, a $300+ video card and a sound blaster audigy 2 off something like that.

Finally, I never once said that the machine from Dell was "a great deal". I never once said "it was my dream machine". I simply went to the Dell site, cobbled together a machine and quoted a price. Go back and read my post, it was just something that I picked out. I went back today and can get nearly the same machine, but with a 19" monitor for a little less.


Maybe someday we can get together and benchmark our equivalent machines. For your reference, mine is a Dell 8400, 3.2 P4 @ 800FSB, HyperThreading enabled, 2GB of DDR2 PC4200 RAM, 160GB SATA drive with NCQ, SB Audigy2 ZS and ATI Radeon X800XT (256MB PCI-Express), 18" Dell UltraSharp Monitor. I bought that machine this past Feb for $1250. Try to beat that price, heck even today that particular video card is $450. Now, that was a great deal.

imdeemvp
7th July 2005, 03:10 AM
Hmmmmm, bought locally, and paid not tax.....INTERESTING (also not legal)
I am pretty sure tax is included but as long as they say "no taxes" it is their problem not mine. I discover the ONCE a month sale thru a friend and it was a good thing to know due to the HUGH savings. I rather go once a month and but a few parts then shop every week.

Linux The Great
7th July 2005, 03:31 PM
I have two desktops and a laptop. I didn't build the laptop myself.

Athlon 64 3000
1gb DDR 3200
2 X 160gb Maxtor HDs
Geforce FX 5200


Athlon XP 2400
1gb DDR 2700
30gb Maxtor and 80gb Seagate
Geforce 2 mx 200


HP Pavilion zv6000
Athlon 64 3200
512mb RAM
60gb 5400rpm HD
ATI radeon xpress 200M

Firewing1
7th July 2005, 04:17 PM
I have a Dell PC that I got customized w/ a few cards... Here are the stats
100 MHz FSB
256 MB RDRAM
1.9 GHz Pentium 4
NVIDIA GeForce MX
USB 2.0
2 CDROM drives, DVD-R and CD-RW
SBLive! Sound Blaster sound card.

Firewing1

Steve T
7th July 2005, 10:23 PM
I Built mine up from bit lying about and some bit from Ebay

Intel Dual CPU Motherboard
Pair of PII 400
512mb ram
2x 20Gb disk
Some sound card
DDS4 Tape Drive
DVD player + CD-RW

Its Runs great!! just want to get a fast set of chips!

Captn
1st August 2005, 02:58 AM
Intel P4 2.8c @ 3.4
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
1024MB of Corsair XMS Xtreme
Leadtek 6800 Ultra
2 Lite-On 16x DvD Burners
2 160 gig WD's
Antec 550 True Power PSU

Captn
1st August 2005, 03:08 AM
pparks1

Interesting debate you have going on. It's tough to beat Dell on prices.

As far as Intel goes - I work on computers in my spoare time for friends - if it has an Intel chip I suggest changing to AMD - and I don't allow Intel (Or country music!) in my house.

As YES DRM is a bad thing. Read up on it sometime.

If everything on your pc is legal then theres nothing to worry about, correct? Besides AMD wont be far behind Intel when it comes to DRM. ;)

fpoole
1st August 2005, 03:16 AM
if it has an Intel chip I suggest changing to AMD - and I don't allow Intel (Or country music!) in my house.

Great taste! ;)

cnarramoore
1st August 2005, 03:44 AM
I am still using my first case which is werid thinking about how many times I have burned or shocked the insides and had to rebuild it.
Started with HP P3,

thought I screwed it up with a new video card and built a 2200+ system with ATI 9000 pro with 512 ram and Win XP.

Got a 2600+ on the slower bus speed to match the board (hard to find at the time).

Tried to overclock that one and burnt the chip board and ram.

Finally gave up on building and bought a Dell. 378 days later the compact design caused it to overheat and cook the SATA controller on the board.

So I took the 3 ghz chip and gig of ram out of it and built the current version with the same old case I have always had.

d-kam
2nd August 2005, 10:43 AM
I built mine. PC is the following:

P3 1Ghz
512mb Ram
1 x MAXTOR 6L040 J2 40G
1 x Seagate (unknown) 120G
Abit KT7 mobo
Radeon 9000
Delta 66 Soundcard
Triple boot with 2 x XP and 1 x Fedora Core 4 (soon to be 1 x XP. Need to keep one for music software but am moving email, internet, dvd etc over to Fedora).

So, it's getting a bit old now hardware wise :( but a new build is on the cards :)

Dan

Twey
2nd August 2005, 10:58 AM
'Twas me.
2.6 P4
1GB RAM
Asrock mobo
Western Digital 160GB HDD (for less than the Maxtor :))
Maxtor 40GB HDD
SBLive! sound card
FC4 (thinking of installing Debian or possibly OpenBSD on the Maxtor to play around with).

I also have a rubbish little server, which currently needs a new PSU. It was running FC2 before; I think it'll be OpenBSD when I get it running again.

Omega Blue
6th August 2005, 04:02 AM
I built my own.

Athlon 64 3200
1GB RAM
MSI nForce3 mobo
2x IBM Ultra160 36GB SCSI
nVidia 5500 graphics card (heard it's rubbish about I bought it :()

LinuxHippy
6th August 2005, 04:34 AM
My computer may be considered an antique by many. It's an Explorer Micro (they are out of business now, I think) P3/600 MHz/320 MB RAM pc that I bought online...I chose the customize feature and upgraded almost everything from the start. That was 5 1/2 years ago. Since then I've upgraded every piece of hardware in the box except for the motherboard. I (of course) upgraded the OS too-it came with blue screen of death Win98SE which I have now wiped off my pc and replaced with FC4.

daniel_owen_uk
10th August 2005, 12:17 PM
Abit NF7-s
AMD Mobile athlon @ 2.6ghz
6800ultra
1gb pc3200 cas2
2 x 1710b LCD
Danger Den water all round (including the beastly nv68 on the gfx)
2x80GB raid0
Currently fedora only (for last 5 days), probably dual boot (with xp) if i can sort my mounting problems in fedora.

Oh and I built it myself ;)

mossey
10th August 2005, 03:01 PM
My PC is below but I havn't decided on a screen, any suggestions....

I've also got 2 dell laptops:

The first is an Inspiron 5100
2.8Gb P4
1Gb ram
x4 dvd writer
60Gb hd
... Not bad for a laptop which is nearly 2 years old


The other arrived last week and its a Latitude X1
with 1280mb ram and a 60Gd hd and will be used for carrying around and work

imdeemvp
11th August 2005, 03:15 AM
AMD 64 4400+
MSI K8N Diamond
Dual 6800GT's
2Gb Corsair TWINXP1024-3200XL
Thermaltake Armour & 650W psu
2 WD Raptor 74Gb drives
CPU must be over 2ghz.....?

mossey
11th August 2005, 02:00 PM
Ya its 2.2Ghz......

David Gypsy
12th August 2005, 12:04 AM
Bult my own. Worked out a whole lot cheaper than buying a prebuilt system, and it had my favourite OS when completed! :) It was a great learning experience, as it was my first. Kinda like broke my virginity ;-) computer wise. Not great as sex, but it was one of the little satisfying experiences of my last year. I highly recommend giving it a go... building your own computer that is. ;)

Pentium 4
3.2 ghz HT
768 mhz RAM
240 gig HD (3X80)
PC Chips MB
DVD/CD RW combo
Nvidia Geforce4 128mb

wtg_photos
12th August 2005, 12:43 AM
yeah i built mine too well my wife helped too
next she builds her own

..//seawolf//..
12th August 2005, 05:31 PM
I built my Duron 900 PC with odds and sods that I could get. Mostly out of bits my dad could get from work that they were gonna throw out. Hence the crap-ness.

henry95
19th August 2005, 07:06 PM
I built my own box.

Asus-NCCH-DL
Dual Intel Xeon 3.2
2GB RAM
2-250GB SATA
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
CD-RW
DVD-ROM
Fedora C4

MaegRil
19th August 2005, 07:09 PM
I've built all my boxes since '96.

Trust me when I say, I've had and built a few. :)

I currently have 5 1/2 boxes.

bub
21st August 2005, 11:01 PM
Gateway built mine back in '03.................. with Windows of course :D:D

I can't wait to build my own rig...............

AlphaTwin
22nd August 2005, 03:27 PM
Hey Hey all,

I haven't bought a system since my first one. I worked at Gateway for 10 years in I.T. and when I first started in 92 they were offering a 486-25sx with a 2400 baud modem in it to the employees at a discounted price. That was my first system I was 22.

Since then I've built all my own, once you learn a little about computers you realize it's the only way to go.

Note: All you people out there wanting to build your own system the first time is a bear stick with it you'll figure it out and have just what you want in the end.

Anyway my current system I built about 2 years ago but I see no reason to upgrade it yet:

Gigabyte 7N400 pro
AMD 1800+ (I would like to knock this up to a 3000+)
Geforce2 Ultra (this could use an upgrade)
Raid 0 for the OS, Temp, and Swap
Separate 80 gig for backing up (runs on a script file every night)
an Aging 9 gig scsi where I keep my Documents and all my family Pictures.
Plextor DVD Burner
Liteon DVD Player
All in a Bright Green Chieftech aluminum tower case. (lots and lots of room)

Later
Eric

Firewing1
8th January 2006, 04:30 AM
Hey all,
I'm thinking of buying a new PC soon. I was reading Intel's releasing a new line soon; and 64 bit is our future... After extensive research I found the Dual Core AMD's beat the Dual Core Pentium D's by FAR.

Although, I'd have to build the box myself since i want it with my custom specs, etc... Dell won't do AMD's. Building the box itself is easy, but what are good brands for my motherboard, fan, and powersource? (For the power source -- how much is needed?) I've built PC's before, but I already had the parts. I didn't choose them out myself, and I want this comp to last as long as possible.

I know im gonna go for ~2500$, Nvidia graphics as i've had good experiences with them, maxtor HD, Corsair RAM, and a Athlon64 X2 4800+. The rest I dunno what to chose, there are so many options.
Thanks,
Firewing1

jeremyreed
8th January 2006, 04:37 AM
I do not allow anyone near my machines, all dezigned, built and maintained by me.

amd64 San Diego core 3700+
2 gig patriot 2-3-2-6 3200ddr
xfx 7800gtx 490core, 1300 mem
maxtor diamondmax 10 200gig
enermax 600w psu
antec p160 case.

rest of the machines are various pIII's running core4 for her pleasure.

marknvicf
8th January 2006, 06:29 AM
Been rolling my own since '95. Latest one:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+
MSI K8N-Neo2 Motherboard - AC'97 Onboard audio, Gigabit ethernet
1gb PC2700
Western Digital 160GB + WD 40GN
GE Force FX5700 64mb ram
19" Samsung Flat CRT
ASUS 48x CD Burner
Sony 16x DVD Burner

Dual boot Win XP SP2/Fedora Core 4 x86_64
VMware running Solaris10 and many other Linux distro's

axelseap
8th January 2006, 06:49 AM
i built mine also

Processor: amd athlon xp 1800+ 1.53ghz
Motherboard: Asus a7v266-c
Ram: 512mb PC2100
Power supply: Antec smart power 2.0 sp400 400 watt
Hard drive: Maxtor 120gb 7200 rpm
Dvd burner: NEC 3550
Dvd drive: Toshiba 16x
Video card: Nvidia Geforce 4 TI 4200
Wireless: Netgear WG311T
Ethernet: D-Link DFE-530TX+
TV card: Hauppage WinTV Theater
Monitor: Dell 17' 1704fpt
Speakers: Altec Lansing ATP5
Mouse: Logitech MX518
Keyboard: Logitech Cordless Internet Pro

mick
8th January 2006, 07:10 AM
I've had a couple of old HP/Compaq boxes that I played with until I figured I could do a build. Fnally got around to the first one about 6 months ago; nice little AMD Sempron rig. Don't do any gaming, and 1600Mhz seemed blistering fast compared to a P3-550. However: Just got finished a new build; still working out some minor inconveniences...

Asus K8S-MX board
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ (1800Mhz) o/c'd to 2.2Ghz
1gb Corsair
nVidia GeForce FX 5200 - 128mb
SiS 5.1 on-board sound
Lite-on DVDRW & Atapi DVDR/CDRW
Maxtor 250gig (storage), Samsung 40gig (OS)
old D-Link ethernet card (couldn't recognise SiS card :( )

Dual-boot FC4 (32bit - told'ja I was workin' out bugs... :D ) and RR64 (Gentoo 64bit)

w5set
8th January 2006, 07:43 AM
Out of the last couple of dozen I have built/rebuilt/changed the only one around here factory built is my wife's new Dell.
And she won't let me "fix" or play with it!!
But I have about 8 computers within reach I can play with sitting here running. (most are running server/router/firewall stuff (with folding@home running too) or are just running dedicated folding@home, except for this one I play mostly on--but it's running folding too.

Firewing1
8th January 2006, 08:54 PM
anyone know good brands?
thanks,
Firewing1

bob
8th January 2006, 09:17 PM
These guys just built mine: http://www.cpusolutions.com/html/index.htm - might have gotten it a few bucks cheaper elsewhere but I was sold by their ratings on Pricewatch and ResellerRatings. Delivered ahead of schedule and beautifully set up. Also got a HUMAN BEING on the phone on the second ring when I had a question about the order. Instantly and pleasantly helped.

stanmc
8th January 2006, 09:35 PM
My current machine is an AsRock939 Dual Sata2 with an AMD64 X2 3800+ and 1GB ram. IDE HD of 80GB and cd/dvd burner. Previous Fedora Core and Redhat systems were Soyo K7VTAPro with Palomino 1700+ and a Chaintech 7njl6 with a Barton 2500+. Redhat/Fedora has worked well on all of them.

Firewing1
9th January 2006, 02:10 AM
Thanks -- I'll that out!
Firewing1

geekmachine
10th January 2006, 09:16 PM
I built my box 7 months ago. I make a habit of upgrading something each month; adding a bit here and there. Mostly been concentrating on my network and NAS for the last few months.

The box so far and it’s never seen Windows and I can say with confidence, it never will:

AMD Athlon 64 3400+
Gigabyte GA-K8NSPro nForce3 (dual BIOS)
NVidia GeForce FX 5500 128MB
1GB DDR PC3200
2 x 40 GB Maxtor
2 x 200 GB Seagate
Pioneer DVR-110D
Sony 52x32x52 CDRW
WMP54G Linksys WIFI Card
Sound Blaster Audigy 7.1 Sound Card
ThermalTake 480W Silent PSU
ThermalTake Soprano VB1000BNS Case (I was going to go for the metal finish but it wasn't in stock at the time and I'm not a patient person ;) )

tampr
11th January 2006, 07:32 AM
I'm a newbie to fedoraforum, but not to Fedora--currently running FC2 on a 5-year-old Dell.

I'm thinking of building my own box. After looking at several posts, I have chosen the following components:
AMD Athlon 3800+ X2 dual core, 2.0GHz
Asus A8N SLI Premium mobo (Nvidia nForce4 chipset)
2GB dual PC3200 (400MHz) memory; maybe from Kingston
EVGA e-GeFORCE 6800 graphics card (256MB)
Antec P180 sound-deadening case
Antec 480W "True Power" pwr supply
SATA II disk, maybe Western Dig. 250MB (or Maxtor)
Plextor PX 716 SATA DVD burner
x86_64 FC4 (should I go directly to FC5 test1 [or maybe test2]?)

Questions:
1. Any recommendations pro or con on the components in this configuration?
2. Anything I should add (or subtract)?

I see everyone likes AMD processors, but one application I wish to run is a large list-processing program, which is very memory-fetch intensive (and, I realize, will double in size with a 64-bit system). Would a dual-core Intel Pentium D with 800MHz DDR2 memory be better for this than the Athlon with 400MHz DDR memory?

Thanks to all.

kona0197
11th January 2006, 10:17 AM
>>>>Would a dual-core Intel Pentium D with 800MHz DDR2 memory be better for this than the Athlon with 400MHz DDR memory?<<<<

Nope. Your CPU blows that P4 away. Although the memory speed is faster with the Intel setup the AMD CPU is stiill your best bet. :)

Firewing1
12th January 2006, 12:08 AM
It's been shown that Athlon dual cores / 64 bit outperform Pentium D. I did several days on it; 'cause once site said that Intel beat AMD, most other said AMD beat Intel. After deeper research, Pentium D will beat AMD day-to-day, like Web browsing but in terms of performance (compiling programs, installing, gaming, MP3 encoding, DVD ripping, etc) AMD beats the pants of Intel
Firewing1

tampr
12th January 2006, 05:17 AM
It's been shown that Athlon dual cores / 64 bit outperform Pentium D.
...
After deeper research, Pentium D will beat AMD day-to-day, like Web browsing but in terms of performance (compiling programs, installing, gaming, MP3 encoding, DVD ripping, etc) AMD beats the pants of Intel
Firewing1

Thanks.

I see neither of us has had any luck getting replies about hardware we are considering (possibly this is the wrong forum?) :(

The Asus board looks good to me. They have one higher-priced one than the one I am considering (top is A8N32-SLI Delux). It had some better minor features than the A8N; not sure which I'll get. They do recommend Corsair memory, see their website.

I have a WD 160GB EIDE drive (came with a controller card, even) that I'm pleaseed with, for a perverse reason. It is a replacement for one that failed! (Lost a sector in the file table or whatever.) BUT, WD's utilities enabled me to patch up the drive that failed enough to get the data off before it failed permanently. (My backups were out of date, can you imagine that? :) )

Any other thoughts on what HW to choose? I think I shall buy the parts tomorrow, but it will probably take a while to get it going.

kona0197
13th January 2006, 04:12 AM
>>>>Pentium D will beat AMD day-to-day<<<<

Don't think so. I think you need to look into the research more.

Optimal Aurora
13th January 2006, 05:03 AM
>>>>Pentium D will beat AMD day-to-day<<<<

Don't think so. I think you need to look into the research more.
agreed... My AMD64 single core and my friends dual core, the single runs faster than Pentium D does. and X2 runs faster than both. Granted process that require coding something like MP3s PentiumD works better.

Optimal Aurora
13th January 2006, 05:05 AM
So that is why I have some many problems running linux. I have a gateway system with amd64 single core on it and it is made by gateway. But those who have voted that only amount to 11. I didn't want to make a system but apparently that is what the majority of people did.

JonEberger
13th January 2006, 05:37 AM
here goes:

1. The desktop which I built (nearly 4 years ago) was a 2.26 GHz P4 with 512 MB RAM, a GeForce Ti400 (128MB) with SB Audigy 2. I currently have a NetGear Wireless card via ndiswrapper. It has both an 80 GB WD HD and a 60 GB Maxtor. I also have a very nice 17" LCD Monitor.

2. I use a Dell Latitude D600 with a Centrino chipset. It's a Gigabit lan card, an Intel Pro Wireless 2100-3B. It's a Pentium-M 1.3 GHz with 512 MB RAM. It has a 30 GB HD.

3. Wife's Computer: Dell Inspiron 5150. 3.2GHZ P4 HT with 1 GB RAM. 60 GB HD. IT's a computational beast.

kona0197
13th January 2006, 11:16 AM
Optimal Aurora your system probably has issues because the 64 bit versions of Linux need some more tweaking before they will be as smooth as the 32 bit versions. At least that would be my guess.

Optimal Aurora
13th January 2006, 06:39 PM
Optimal Aurora your system probably has issues because the 64 bit versions of Linux need some more tweaking before they will be as smooth as the 32 bit versions. At least that would be my guess.
Agreed, but SuSE works pretty well. Fedora has its problems to the point that only firefox works to a degree and only OpenOffice works for somethings. That is why I use SuSE which w32codecs works in 64bit version and so does flash player and the majority of software. That is also why I am currently testing out Windows XP Pro x64, and almost everything I can use x64 for I can use on SuSE 10.0.

I am just using fedora because it was the first linux distro I truely learned to use. And most of the people I talk to about Linux in NC say that I should use Fedora. I personally though like SuSE, though.

centos_x
13th January 2006, 11:03 PM
notebook
emachines
15.4" widescreen
ATI 9600 Mobility(w/TV out - it works)
AMD64 3400+ 512MB DDR
KT8 via chipset (not sure manufacturer)
80gig travelstar
DVD +/- RW
6 in 1 card reader MMC works SD haven't tried
broadcom wirelessG minipci(works ndiswrapper)
FC3/winXP pro

The following are self builds

2 Servers (Matching Systems)
AMD XP1800
ASUS MB
crappy old 15" generic crt + KVM switch (rarely used - mostlly ssh/vnc)
crappy 8MB nvidea(who cares about this in a server)
no cd-rom's
4x 120gig WD with 8MB cache EIDE
1GB PC133

server 1 is a LAMP + FTP
FC3 Apache-2.0.55, Vsftp

server 2 is Samba file server
FC3

Test & Builder Machine
Samsung 26" LCD/TV (has XVGA hookup to use as monitor and runs at 1280x1024 in PC mode)
ATI 9600
AMD XP2200
ABIT MB
512MB PC2700
2x 200gig western digital EIDE
FC3/WinXP pro

b_martinez
17th January 2006, 06:10 AM
Home Built, and another AMD processor.
AMD Athlon 3200+ (64 bit of course)
K8N Neo mobo
1.5 gig 3200 DDR ram (generic)
2 each 160G WD internal hdd (software raid )
1 160G WD external hdd
Nvidia MX4000 ,128M onboard memory
Lite-On DVD+/- R/RW
Lite-On CD RW
onboard 10/100/1G ethernet
pci 10/100/1G ethernet
8 USB ports
1 Samsung 173V LCD (17") monitor
1 Proview 175(?) LCD (17") monitor
Currently running FC4 and SUSE 10.0, with 90 gig left to try out FC5 test 2

Took a while to get the parts together, but I love the performance, even though I have not OC'd the processor. ;)

reblinux
17th January 2006, 06:03 PM
Been builing my own for years. My current setup is:

AMD64 3500+ (AMD64 X2 4800+ is on its way)
Asus A8N-E mobo
2GB Gskill DDR400
Western Digital Raptor 10K RPM 36Gb HD
Nvidia 7800GT
Lite-on DVDRW
19" LG CRT
Razor Diamondback 1600dpi gaming mouse

Dual boot FC4 / XP (the XP is purely for gaming you understand :o) )

Other boxes:

Laptop = HP NX9105 running Gentoo

Server = (Some old Dell box) Dual P3 450 running FC3

+ various bits and pieces that I haven't been bothered to put together!

Bangoliers_uk
18th January 2006, 08:48 AM
Hello built my system myself have just upgraded case...as.follows
Pentium 4 3.4 giggles cooled by vapochill micro low noise 775
Gigabyte 8IPE775 PRO mobo
3 giggles ram...which will be upgraded to 4 soon
2 samsung 160 gb sata drives
x-fi elite pro s/card
Nvidia 6800gt agp ard
Phillips lightscribe dvd cd rewrite ...thingy
adsl...as this is the fastwest in my area as yet..
creative labs 7.1 speakers
logitech g7 laser mouse
saitek eclipse k/board
All sitting pretty in the Xion II case

giulix
18th January 2006, 05:23 PM
Well, I assembled it (2, to be precise). I wouldn't know where to start, should I build one... :D

h3llfire
23rd January 2006, 01:41 PM
Pc assembled by me :))

Intel P4 2.8Ghz HT;
1Gb ddr400 kingmax tiny BGA (2x512 -- dual channel configuration);
Epox motherboard;
fx 5200 video;
40 Gb Seagate HDD;
80 Gb WesternDigital HDD;
pioneer dvr-110 DVD Writer;
Sony floppy :) -- gathering dust;
1 intel ethernet 10/100/1000;
2 realtek ethernet cards 10/100;
....
A4Tech SWOP-80 mouse;
Very old&dirty keyboard; :)
NoName Monitor;
Mustek Powermust 600 to aid me with the poor quality electrical grid.;
FC4 & M$ Windoze XP dual boot.

dbm989
23rd January 2006, 11:23 PM
i recently built it it has:
AMD 64 3200+
1 GB ram
a soundcard and ethernet card that fedora is not copatible with :mad:
80 gb hd, etc...

perry753
24th January 2006, 02:17 AM
All my systems, workstations and servers are built by ComputerLINK. They're the best overall that I have had experience with.

pparks1
29th January 2006, 11:33 PM
I just ordered the parts today to build a new Fedora Core X box in my house. They all came from NewEgg. Cost me less than $350 bucks. Should make a sweet box for the $.

Antec Sonata II Case with Antec 450 Watt PS.
AMD Sempron 64 2800+ Palermo core
Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M Socket 754 VIA K8M800 Mobo
1GB Corsair DDR400 PC3200 RAM
LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-160P6S

I have a Seagate 120GB IDE HD and a Maxtor 160GB SATA drive at home that I plan to install.

This machine will become my primary Linux workstation.

Blackspyder
30th January 2006, 05:35 AM
yeah I bought this computer from Ciricut City. Its an eMachine but the price I paid for the setup was less then the price to build one similar. However I have moded the system somewhat (ongoing process) and my other comp I just built from spare parts of my last 3 comps. (Its a P3 running 98 cuz I cant boot from the CD drive)

kona0197
30th January 2006, 09:16 AM
I just ordered the parts today to build a new Fedora Core X box in my house. They all came from NewEgg. Cost me less than $350 bucks. Should make a sweet box for the $.

Antec Sonata II Case with Antec 450 Watt PS.
AMD Sempron 64 2800+ Palermo core
Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M Socket 754 VIA K8M800 Mobo
1GB Corsair DDR400 PC3200 RAM
LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-160P6S

I have a Seagate 120GB IDE HD and a Maxtor 160GB SATA drive at home that I plan to install.

This machine will become my primary Linux workstation.

Where is your video card? :confused:

pparks1
31st January 2006, 02:28 AM
I'm just planning on using the built in video on my mobo for this Linux machine. The chipset is S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP.

Unless I have some sort of major problem, i'm just gonna stick with the onboard video. I don't use my Linux box for any gaming or anything graphically intensive. As long as it runs XWindows with Gnone/KDE smoothly, I will be fine.

I've got a beefy Windows XP box for my gaming. P4 @ 3.2, 2GB Corsair RAM, Radeon X800XT, SB Audigy 2 ZS. This is my primary Windows box.

My wife has a P4 @ 2.4, 1GB RAM and Radeon 9700Pro with Sound Blaster Live 5.1 that is her main Windows box.

kona0197
31st January 2006, 09:41 AM
Sounds like you have a nice XP box although when I see the word "Intel" beefy is not what comes to mind as I know AMD chips outperform Intel chips. :cool:

pparks1
31st January 2006, 06:48 PM
I agree, AMD usually does whip Intel's butt when it comes to outperforming....especially in the gaming world.

However, my Windows machine is a Dell. I bought it when Dell had better prices than building myself. Since they didn't offer AMD, I couldn't get one. With that said, I've benchmarked and tested real world performance of my intel versus friends AMD's and my machine certainly holds it own.

The "beefy" remark was intended more for the RAM and the video card in the box.

bigjosh
14th February 2006, 12:25 AM
Born 2/10/06

AMD Athlon 64 4000+
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
eVGA GeForce 7800GT
Corsair XMS 3200 2 Gig (2x1gig)
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 SLi
(2) WD 250 Gig SATA2
Sony DL DVD+/-RW 16X
Thermaltake Armor VA8000BWS
Thermaltake Silent Boost RX K8
(2) LG L1780U 17" LCD
Hauppauge PVR-500
FC4 + Windows XP Pro

Crux
18th February 2006, 05:51 PM
Unless I build it, I don't trust it. I take the time to find out what components play best with each other, and research OS 'stuff'.

Of course wifey and I STILL bought a e-Machine from Best Buy for 599.00 for the kids.
2 GHZ P4
512 RAM
XP
DVD/CD-RW combo,
Speakers
17" Flat Screen
Lexmark All in one 'scanner/copier/printer'

I could not build it for less, which blows in it's self. We 'stole' the all-in-one and gave them our 'non-photo' ink jet, and they also got the wifes non-flat CRT.

Not to excuse it, however they are not real computer gods yet. Ages 10, 9, 8, 7.... And they just want it to 'work', like all people that are spoon fed.

The oldest has already shown interest in my 'nix' boxes though. 'Why does your's look different than ours?' 'Can I make my browser say 'Browser of the black hole of information'? ' I say 'no, your machine runs closed source software, and you can't edit or customize the code.' 'Why?'

I almost cried.

w5set
18th February 2006, 07:27 PM
Crux--install Firefox/Mozilla for them--it allows that "Browser" stuff to say lots of things at the top..
Even in win-DoHs.

Crux
18th February 2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah, all of my boxes run FF.. IE is dead in my home. ;) Also all of the 'free/pay to play' crap was removed.

-sigh-

Just saddens me that craftmanship has been tossed to the way side for price. I remember when 'hand made/built' actually MEANT something. Now, nobody cares about it. Just want it to be cheapest/fastest/better then complain when it fails...

Damn shame when people will pay more for a tank of gas, than they will to back up their business data.

c_sp_r
18th February 2006, 07:56 PM
1. Box

Amd 64 3000+
Gigabyte k8nf9
1G pc 3200 DDR
GF 6600GT
Maxtor SATA 160G
WD PATA 80G
DVD NEC 3550
DSL connection
OS: Win XP, FC4, Mac OSX 10.4.1

2.Box (home server)

Amd k6 500Mhz
MSI motherbord
256Mb 133Mhz SDR
GF 4000
2x 80G raid 1
200G USB disk

w5set
18th February 2006, 08:17 PM
/quote
I remember when 'hand made/built' actually MEANT something. Now, nobody cares about it.
quote/
******
My primary job is electrical/data/phone/fiber construction...my advise to my apprentices is "Build it so you wouldn't be ashamed to show it to your momma". Craftmanship is NOT dead....at least around me. I insist on it!

Crux
20th February 2006, 12:42 AM
/quote Craftmanship is NOT dead....at least around me. I insist on it!

-sniff- Thanks w5.. I've a BS in Computer Science, graduated in 88 when it 'meant' something. Now, they pump out techs like Legos. 1/2 baked, and none really fit. I have been in 'the field' for 15 years. Left a year ago 'cause I got tired of the stupid crap. People read a copy of PC Mag and think they are 'techs'.

Now, I cut sheets of ply wood for a furniture factory. I run a computerized saw that cuts to a 'programmed pattern'. It's a Pentium 1, with 1 MB of RAM, no HDD. I just put in where I want it to cut, and it cuts it. Refershing to say the least.

1) Never had a customer say. "I was watching porn on my wood, and now I get pop-ups.'
2) Never at a party. "I've this pile of old wood, can you tell me how to make it useful?"
3) Never hear. "I bought this wood off eBay, can you tell me if I got ripped off or not?"
4) Never hear. "My brother; who is a wood god, said that my wood should be easy to fix."

I DO have 'clients', however retail or a 'big' list of customers I'll never have again. People are a pain in the arse, lazy, and when their problem is fixed they forget about you..

Just look at 80% of the posts here to find me true.

w5set
20th February 2006, 12:55 AM
Never had a customer say. "I was watching porn on my wood, and now I get pop-ups.'
Well--do they get splinters?
****************
Just look at 80% of the posts here to find me true.
Ok--but what other job do you have that is so much fun?? And pay so well???
Besides--it's a lot of fun typing cryptic (to a new user) command line stuff back as "ADVISE" to do..
And sometimes--however few--"they" come back and make your hat fit funny by saying--"It worked--thanks"

Crux
20th February 2006, 01:21 AM
Besides--it's a lot of fun typing cryptic (to a new user) command line stuff back as "ADVISE" to do..
And sometimes--however few--"they" come back and make your hat fit funny by saying--"It worked--thanks"

LOL!!! Yeah, I get ya dad. ;) Just so few actually come back to say 'thanks'.. I; refering to myself ONLY, post when I have exausted all other options. Google, other forums, -insert favorite research here-. When it DOES work, I come back with thanks, or if I figure it out, I post that also.

80% of most people today are selfish bastards. Use ya fer yer knowledge, and toss ya into a can when they are done. Well, until they need you again of course. Then you're 'BUDDY/FRIEND/GOD'!!!!

When I see 'I've a dual boot error.' I wanna puke. Dual booting is for the weak.. Only real men have two or more 'hard drives'. :cool:

But, if you/they/them are cursed with only ONE 'size', then God hates you.

marko
25th March 2006, 09:55 PM
Upgraded from Athlon XP that had motherboard/ram problems and
built:

case: Gigabyte Aurora 3d
PSU: seasonic S12-500 500 Watt
motherboard: Abit AN8 Ultra
video: Albatron 6600 GT Card
cpu: Athlon 64 X2 3800
cpu cooler Zalman CNPS7000B-ALCU
Ram: 2GB
DVD: Plextor PX-716A
Hard disks: 80 Gig IDE Seagate ST380021A (from Athlon XP box)
300 Gig SATA disk (new) Seagate ST3300631AS
external USB disks: Acomdata 160Gigabyte
Lacie 250 GB disk
Printer: same HP 1200 laserjet I had before

the SATA disk is using the XFS file system, all others
using EXT3

Mark

kathymac
27th March 2006, 02:57 PM
Built by me
AMD 64 3002
Asus A8V-MX
Maxtor 120Gb HDD
Nvidia 6600GT Graphics
1.5GB DDR400 Memory
Creative live sound card
TP Link Wireless Lan
NB5+4W ADSL
Flash card reader writer
Floppy
CD
DVD
Fujitsu 19 in LCD
Accessories Sipura SPA 3000 , Uniden Cordless phoneHP PSC printer, bluetooth dongle, Cruser USB Drive. I'm happy with it.

Bandit
28th March 2006, 07:14 AM
I have always built my own PC's since my last Tandy died on me many years back.

My most recent system is a 2GHz Athlon Venice core system in a CoolerMaster case.
See the specs on my signature below..
Fedora Core 5 ROCKS.. I am using the i686 kernel and its faster then Ubuntu64 bit.

http://www.geocities.com/bigbandit2004/PC-Top.jpg
My 19" BenQ LCD, BenQ Slim KB, Logitech MX Mouse, and Logitech X-230 speakers.

http://www.geocities.com/bigbandit2004/PC-Case.jpg
Coolermaster Centurion 541 mATX case. You can notice it has a wire mesh front.

http://www.geocities.com/bigbandit2004/PC-Inside.jpg
The inside before I resplaced my older HDD with a new Raptor 10k SATA150 drive..


Cheers,
Bandit

powereds
3rd April 2006, 02:11 AM
Laptop built by Dell.

imdeemvp
3rd April 2006, 04:27 AM
We have a very convincing poll MOST users built their boxes.....:D

desertwind
3rd April 2006, 07:33 AM
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
ASUS A7n266VM
Seagate Baraccuda 120 GB
Seagate Baraccuda 80 GB
SONY Q30A DVD+/-RW
LITEON DVD-Combo
512 x 2 DDR 400 RAM

Fedora Core 5

Omega Blue
3rd April 2006, 08:31 AM
I build my own rigs (and my sister's, my mom's, my dad's, my friends') :)

This is the big one:

AMD Athlon64 3200+
MSI Neo2 Platinum K8N (it is giving me all kinds of problems :angry: )
2x512MB Corsair DDR400 RAM
Coolmaster Vortex Dream cooler
nVidia 6600GT graphics card
Liteon DVD burner
Random WJ 8MB (cache) HDDs :)
Viewsonic 19" LCD screen (good stuff ;))

Mtnear
3rd April 2006, 03:20 PM
I built it - specs in the sig.

As I upgrade my XP pc I've been using the "old" parts to build my FC5 pc. I'm hoping to simply take the time to make my main pc a dual boot soon.

joe.pelayo
15th February 2007, 05:59 AM
I built my current FC6 box myself.
AMD Sempron Processor 3100+ (1.8GHz)
K8M800-M2 Motherboard Elite Group
512MB DDR 400
80GB Western Digital Caviar HD
NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 128MB
although this machine initially ran WinXP Pro it was completely redeemed this year.
The other computers I own run either FC6 or another Linux. They are in my signature.
Joe.

teishu
15th February 2007, 02:51 PM
I built both of mine however, my linux box (2nd one in sig) is a Shuttle XPC barebones, so i got mobo + case + cpu cooler as a package.... and i added all the rest etc. My windows pc, was built by me entirely i chose every component..

(WOW this is my 100th post !!)

John the train
15th February 2007, 02:56 PM
Desktop: built 2000 by a pretty well known UK company, Evesham. Since then; memory upgraded from 128MB to 256Mb, upgraded Combi drive to DVD R/W and added scavenged CD-ROM drive, added USB2 PCI card and replaced Winmodem with ethernet card. Still running original mobo, PS and 20GBHD. As built ran WinMe ( brand new then! ) when I'd had it with M$ installed Mandriva ( briefly ) FC4, FC5 and now FC6.
Laptop: A Dell Latitude CPi, Win98 vintage. Bought with 128MB RAM, added extra 64MB. Has run FC5, now with slimmed down FC6. Currently working on getting wireless card up and running.

JN4OldSchool
15th February 2007, 03:01 PM
-------------------------me-----------------------------

Trek1701
16th February 2007, 03:27 AM
I BUILT MY BOX powered by Fedora Core

All three were built by myself... I never bought a built computer.

Flounder
16th February 2007, 03:30 AM
I built my machine. Specs are in my sig, managed to squeeze most of it in under $500 if not all of it.

StephenH
16th February 2007, 03:53 AM
Well, except for the laptop, all of my previous computers were homebuilt.

I just recently purchased an HP Pavilion a1610n with Athlon 64 Live (x2), 1Gb Ram, 250 Gb SATA HDD, onboard sound and video. With it, I got a nice, shiny, new HP w22 widescreen monitor :D

Due to sound problems, I popped in a PCI sound card and disabled the onboard sound. Now, I don't get the "stuttering" in the sound.

Next, I upgraded the RAM to 2Gb. Next, I added in a PCI card to give me two serial ports and pulled out the lame winmodem.

Finally, I purchased a PNY Vertio GeForce 7600GS PCIe with 512 Mb DDR2 RAM to replace the onboard video which was not playing well with either Compiz or at all with Beryl.

By the time I finished, I would have spent a lot less by building it myself again. I needed a valid copy of Windows XP to be able to run the Professional Sew Ware digitizing software for my wife's embroidery machine. It wouldn't work with a serial to USB adapter, so I had to add the serial card. :( It also won't work with WINE :( This was the only way I could offload the program from my laptop though was to get a working desktop system to use.

It did come with a free Vista "upgrade", but that will most certainly sit on the shelf. I don't need the problems that Vista would cause since its DRM would probably lock out the sound and serial cards right off the bat.

Meanwhile, I used gpartd to partition the drive and make room for FC6. I had a few problems getting FC6 x86_64 installed, but now everything is running fine. I will try to get the flash player installed over the weekend now that I have seen information in the forums on how to do this. :)

2.6.19-1.2911.fc6 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 15:16:31 EST 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Beryl is wonderful with this setup. I just need to find out how to do a screenshot while the cube is rotated so I can get a nice shot of it. I got some good ideas for Beryl configurations by viewing a few of the videos on youtube. :)

Stephen