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n00bfedora
14th February 2007, 12:00 AM
Here is a number of reasons why fedora core 6 makes me pissed off.
I have an external hard drive with the retarded ntfs on it i cant get that thing to work in terminal
MP3 plugin thing dosnt work after i tried messing around with it after an hour
LImewire install dosnt work after i tried updating my Java and that thing dont work eaither
only thing that has worked is the install and thats about it all the fun exciting things you guys are doin is what i wanna do and i just cant seem to get this damn os to work.
its pissing me off and im getting ready to go out and buy Vista but i really dont want to after all the magazine reveiws i heard on it

bob
14th February 2007, 12:05 AM
http://www.fedorafaq.org/
http://jimlawrnc.mine.nu/mywiki/Home
http://fedorasolved.org/
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc6.html
http://easylinux.info/wiki/Fedora_fc5
http://easylinux.info/wiki/Fedora_frog
http://www.fedorafriend.org/

bob
14th February 2007, 12:08 AM
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=144524
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=112316

Oh yes, for more info, check out this: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53362

glennzo
14th February 2007, 12:12 AM
Gee, one thing at a time. Get it installed and updated, get your e-mail working. Surf the web. Then get something else working. Fedora Core 6 is awesome. Fedora Core 7 is going to be even more 'awsomer'. And it's free! All of it! Vista is $300 for some of it :confused:

JN4OldSchool
14th February 2007, 12:17 AM
my gut instinct is to play "bad cop" on this one and tell the OP to quit crying and just go get vista. But...We have all been frustrated. Unfortunatly, you have to hold your own hand on this one. The info is here, your problems are easily rectified, but you have got to want to do it. Getting pissed off at an inanimate OS isnt going to help any. It isnt Fedora or Linux's fault, it is yours for not knowing what you are doing. Once you accept that and get to work learning how to make it work things will be a lot brighter.

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 12:22 AM
its pissing me off and im getting ready to go out and buy Vista but i really dont want to after all the magazine reveiws i heard on it

Go on then , waste $400 on vista :D

Seve
14th February 2007, 12:31 AM
Hello:

Here is a number of reasons why fedora core 6 makes me pissed off.
Aspirn or perhaps a beer or two would help that feeling. :)

I have an external hard drive with the retarded ntfs on it i cant get that thing to work in terminal
http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs

MP3 plugin thing dosnt work after i tried messing around with it after an hour
http://www.fedorafaq.org/#mp3

LImewire install dosnt work after i tried updating my Java and that thing dont work eaither
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc6.html#java
http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/limewire/

only thing that has worked is the install and thats about it all the fun exciting things you guys are doin is what i wanna do and i just cant seem to get this damn os to work.
its pissing me off and im getting ready to go out and buy Vista but i really dont want to after all the magazine reveiws i heard on it
http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx

Seve

glennzo
14th February 2007, 12:35 AM
You guys are too funny ;)

JLChafardet
14th February 2007, 01:04 AM
my gut instinct is to play "bad cop" on this one and tell the OP to quit crying and just go get vista. But...We have all been frustrated. Unfortunatly, you have to hold your own hand on this one. The info is here, your problems are easily rectified, but you have got to want to do it. Getting pissed off at an inanimate OS isnt going to help any. It isnt Fedora or Linux's fault, it is yours for not knowing what you are doing. Once you accept that and get to work learning how to make it work things will be a lot brighter.

let me give you a little fast help.


su -
enter root password

this first block is copy and paste


cd /usr/local/src
mkdir rpms
cd rpms
wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm
rpm -ihv livna-release-6.rpm
rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/*
wget http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY
rpm --import RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY
cd -- (or cd ~)
whoami

select the username
choose between this two options:


ask password every time you perform sudo command-here:

echo "PASTE_USERNAME ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers

OR
dont ask for a password ever when you perform sudo command-here:

echo "PASTE_USERNAME ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" >> /etc/sudoers

then type:


exit
sudo yum update

(if you choosed to be asked for a password, then now enterit as it will be asked for)

when the uptade is finished (will take most probably quite some time there are about 300 mb if you installed FC6 from the latest respin dvd. if you installed from the original initial release dvd, there will be about 900 MB of updates.


mp3


sudo yum install -y audacious audacious-plugins-nonfree*


java
go to java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
select the Java Runtime Enviroment 6 (JRE) Self extracting file should be a .bin
when downloaded


sh jre-6-linux-i586.bin
answer yes
sudo mv -f jre1.6* /opt/jre1.6
sudo ln -s /opt/jre1.6/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so


NTFS


sudo yum install -y fuse fuse-libs ntfs-3g ntfsprogs ntfsprogs-gnomevfs
cd /media
sudo mkdir /windows


now check your patritions


sudo /sbin/fdisk -l


this should show you the whole list of partitions on your computer

something like this, taken from my pc:



[jlchafardet@phoenix ~]$ sudo /sbin/fdisk -l
Password:

Disk /dev/sda: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 9478 76132003+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 9479 9491 104422+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 9492 9556 522112+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 9557 48641 313950262+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 9557 48641 313950231 8e Linux LVM

Disk /dev/sdb: 2097 MB, 2097152000 bytes
64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1015 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 1016 2047968+ 6 FAT16
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1014, 63, 63) logical=(1015, 55, 55)
[jlchafardet@phoenix ~]$


sdb is my flashdrive sda is my Hard drive.

based on where you see the HPFS/NTFS partition (or partitions), in my example is
/dev/sda1 * 1 9478 76132003+ 7 HPFS/NTFS so is /dev/sda1



for read-only:
sudo mount /dev/PARTITION_NTFS /media/windows -t ntfs-3g -ro umask=0222
for writable (not recommended):
sudo mount /dev/PARTITION_NTFS /media/windows -t ntfs-3g -rw umask=0000

sudo gedit /etc/fstab

add the following line to the end of the file:

for read-only:

/dev/PARTITION_NFS /media/windows ntfs-3g ro,defaults,umask=0222 0 0

for writable (not recommended):

/dev/PARTITION_NFS /media/windows ntfs-3g rw,defaults,umask=0000 0 0



now you have NTFS mounting (access) on boot. it doesnt matter if it is an external or an internal drive, it will be shown on the fdisk -l command.

now, back to my first quote.


my gut instinct is to play "bad cop" on this one and tell the OP to quit crying and just go get vista. But...We have all been frustrated. Unfortunatly, you have to hold your own hand on this one. The info is here, your problems are easily rectified, but you have got to want to do it. Getting pissed off at an inanimate OS isnt going to help any. It isnt Fedora or Linux's fault, it is yours for not knowing what you are doing. Once you accept that and get to work learning how to make it work things will be a lot brighter.

Its absolutly true that is not our, nor fedora nor linux fault that your things doesnt go the way you want them. thats what happens when we want to do something without knowing a single thing about it. ERRORS AND MISTAKES. thats how we learn in life, so if you are ready to start an amazing adventure, learning proccess, and taking your IT knowledge to a level that the usual IT user DOESNT EVEN DREAM TO HAVE, welcome to the linux world, if you dont have what it takes for it, well its a shame, we will be here anyway, enjoying our linuxes fully working with all the speqs we want :p

dont blame on us, nor linux, nor the distro your problems, blame yourself, embrace that blame, stand up, and keep walking because thats the way to go, up and ahead.

Cheers,

gtr225
14th February 2007, 01:08 AM
my gut instinct is to play "bad cop" on this one and tell the OP to quit crying and just go get vista. But...We have all been frustrated. Unfortunatly, you have to hold your own hand on this one. The info is here, your problems are easily rectified, but you have got to want to do it. Getting pissed off at an inanimate OS isnt going to help any. It isnt Fedora or Linux's fault, it is yours for not knowing what you are doing. Once you accept that and get to work learning how to make it work things will be a lot brighter.
If only everyone realized this then no one would be using Windows :-)

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 01:09 AM
cd /usr/local/src
mkdir rpms
cd rpms
wget http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-6.rpm
rpm -ihv livna-release-6.rpm
rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/*
wget http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY
rpm --import RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY
cd -- (or cd ~)
whoami

why make it hard when this will do the same


su -
rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/6/i386/livna-release-6-1.noarch.rpm

JLChafardet
14th February 2007, 01:14 AM
there is nothing wrong with hard ways :p ;) in fact, i like it that way ;)

Wayne
14th February 2007, 01:16 AM
Go on then , waste $400 on vista :D

Well, I'm going out today and get my copy of vista and wipe Fedora off my hard disk..



Then I woke up! What a nightmare! :D

Wayne

Seve
14th February 2007, 01:20 AM
Well, I'm going out today and get my copy of vista and wipe Fedora off my hard disk..



Then I woke up! What a nightmare! :D

Wayne
Hello Wayne:
Thank goodness ...... you have not lost all your senses :)

Seve

Wayne
14th February 2007, 01:29 AM
Hello Wayne:
Thank goodness ...... you have not lost all your senses :)

Seve

Don't worry Seve, the day I willingly give any of my money to that bunch of crooks is the day I voluntarily have myself committed :D

Wayne

RupertPupkin
14th February 2007, 01:34 AM
its pissing me off and im getting ready to go out and buy Vista but i really dont want to after all the magazine reveiws i heard on it
Your only choices are FC6 and Vista? Doesn't your PC already have a Microsoft OS on it that you could use? I guess I don't have enough information to know why you need to go buy a new OS. That being said, Linux isn't always the right OS for everyone, you may have better luck with Windows, whether it's Vista or an earlier version. Good luck.

Seve
14th February 2007, 01:35 AM
Don't worry Seve, the day I willingly give any of my money to that bunch of crooks is the day I voluntarily have myself committed :D

Wayne
Hello Wayne:
I have faith in you ........... :cool:
You're a beer lover ...... so no worries ..

uda Man :)

Seve

asif2k
14th February 2007, 02:02 AM
Fedora Core 7 is going to be even more 'awsomer'.


when is FC7 coming out?

thanx :D

Wayne
14th February 2007, 02:05 AM
when is FC7 coming out?

thanx :D

Tentative release schedule is the end of April.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Core/Schedule

Wayne

bob
14th February 2007, 02:06 AM
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7

bob
14th February 2007, 02:07 AM
Dang, Wayne! That was FAST!

Wayne
14th February 2007, 02:11 AM
Dang, Wayne! That was FAST!

You beat me to it the other day so I thought I'd get my revenge :cool:

Wayne

Seve
14th February 2007, 02:15 AM
Hello:
Shame on both of you ..... :D
for promoting thread hi-jacking

Okay .... now I'm in trouble I know ......

Seve

bob
14th February 2007, 02:20 AM
OMG, what have I done? I will now ban myself for 10 minutes as punishment...also to get a beer....

Seve
14th February 2007, 02:23 AM
Hello:
See .... I knew I was in trouble .... ;)

I'm sorry ...

Carry on as normal

Seve

Wayne
14th February 2007, 02:25 AM
OMG, what have I done? I will now ban myself for 10 minutes as punishment...also to get a beer....

Best idea I've heard this morning. Breakfast beer sounds good :D

Wayne

JLChafardet
14th February 2007, 02:34 AM
if you go and get a beer, then there is no punishment, what about you dont ban anyone, and invite us all a coupple of beers? lol

Seve
14th February 2007, 02:39 AM
if you go and get a beer, then there is no punishment, what about you dont ban anyone, and invite us all a coupple of beers? lol
Hello:
Well ,,, that's a theory .. :)
Perhaps we should explore it .....

Seve

bob
14th February 2007, 02:42 AM
No problem! I've got the whole batch on ice...since it's about -1F outside right now.

Wayne
14th February 2007, 02:47 AM
No problem! I've got the whole batch on ice...since it's about -1F outside right now.

Well, as the topic has suddenly wandered to beer (isn't that unusual!) Take a look at this gross product:

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSL136597320070213

Wayne

Seve
14th February 2007, 02:47 AM
Hello:
I wonder whatever happened to n00bfedora ...... ?

Bob ....he's not at your place pouring down beer is he ?

Seve

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 02:53 AM
Well, as the topic has suddenly wandered to beer (isn't that unusual!) Take a look at this gross product:

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSL136597320070213

Wayne

How can you knock a new product (Beer) without testing to see if it's any good ( it might taste like Guinness ) :cool:

Wayne
14th February 2007, 02:55 AM
How can you knock a new product (Beer) without testing to see if it's any good ( it might taste like Guinness ) :cool:

It sounds gross to me because the smell of milk turns my stomach and I'm lactose intolerant :eek:

Wayne

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 02:55 AM
Hello:
I wonder whatever happened to n00bfedora ...... ?

Bob ....he's not at your place pouring down beer is he ?

Seve


He's probably gone off to buy a copy of Vista!! :eek:

bob
14th February 2007, 02:58 AM
Nah, guess he got mad or sumpin. Maybe out shopping for Vista Ultimate? I hear it's got kool graphics an' ya can play games and lissen ta musek an' the foldurs kinda rotate an' it's reel sekure an' it only costz about 2/3 as much as a playstation 3. Freekin' unbeleevabul!

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 02:59 AM
It sounds gross to me because the smell of milk turns my stomach and I'm lactose intolerant :eek:

Wayne


Not to worry , theres one made from spuds :cool:


Don't worry if you can't get hold of any, though: Nakahara also sells beer brewed from another major Hokkaido product -- potatoes

Wayne
14th February 2007, 03:01 AM
Nah, guess he got mad or sumpin. Maybe out shopping for Vista Ultimate? I hear it's got kool graphics an' ya can play games and lissen ta musek an' the foldurs kinda rotate an' it's reel sekure an' it only costz about 2/3 as much as a playstation 3. Freekin' unbeleevabul!

You mean it crashes when you play games!

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37591

Wayne

leigh123linux
14th February 2007, 03:03 AM
Nah, guess he got mad or sumpin. Maybe out shopping for Vista Ultimate? I hear it's got kool graphics an' ya can play games and lissen ta musek an' the foldurs kinda rotate an' it's reel sekure an' it only costz about 2/3 as much as a playstation 3. Freekin' unbeleevabul!


For the same price you could have a top of the range dual core :confused:

Seve
14th February 2007, 03:12 AM
Hello n00bfedora:
How are you making out ........ ?
We do care .. :)

Seve

JN4OldSchool
14th February 2007, 03:25 AM
Nah, guess he got mad or sumpin. Maybe out shopping for Vista Ultimate? I hear it's got kool graphics an' ya can play games and lissen ta musek an' the foldurs kinda rotate an' it's reel sekure an' it only costz about 2/3 as much as a playstation 3. Freekin' unbeleevabul!

Lol, hahahaha LMAO this is great!!! A whole side of Bob I havent seen before! Hope I didnt chase the dude away, I just kinda wanted to piss him off so he quits feeling sorry for himself and gets this thing working just to spite me. If you are still out there fedoranoobdude, we all want to help you, we want to become your friends. But first you must help yourself. You can do it, heck, if I can figure this Linux stuff out anyone can...

Fedora@75
14th February 2007, 08:35 AM
Ha,ha.. I like this thread it's a classic! Fedora rocks - it's superb!

Wayne
14th February 2007, 11:49 AM
Well, if Fedora is making the OP mad then he's in good company. I'm as nutty as a fruitcake! :eek:

Wayne

Raven-sb
14th February 2007, 11:56 AM
Well, if Fedora is making the OP mad then he's in good company. I'm as nutty as a fruitcake! :eek:

Wayne

Me too, I'm as fruity as a nutcake and I like it! In fact the only reason I have my sanity is because I'm so insane.

parish
14th February 2007, 04:16 PM
I wonder whatever happened to n00bfedora ...... ? <...snip>
I wonder. Maybe just me, but I've notice an increasing number of posts from relative newcomers whining about various problems with fedora, but never really asking for help nor sounding like they want any. Then they disappear...

Many years ago, a guy at my company posted exactly this kind of thing to many newsgroups just to start flamewars, spread FUD, etc. He was actually quite clever and very accomplished at being inflammatory. I actually guessed it was him from postings to the amiga groups; his prose style was very unique and it appeared similar to documents he wrote at work. He would make these posts and then go back a few days later to see what had happened. He measured his success by how large the threads swelled after his posts. I don't think he ever bothered to read the responses in much detail.

Daniel

JN4OldSchool
14th February 2007, 04:20 PM
Well, whatever...I found this to be a very funny thread in the long run. If Noob dude gets some sense of satisfaction and a job well done in that then more power to him I guess...Seems like a silly, childish game to me but what do I know...

bob
14th February 2007, 04:24 PM
No, our friend is a genuine new user, age 16 and apparently has other things to do and worlds to conquer. There's all levels of maturity at that age and all levels of patience. I'm sure he's got a full and active social life and plenty of other interests and trolling is not one of them.

RupertPupkin
14th February 2007, 04:46 PM
No, our friend is a genuine new user, age 16 ... I'm sure he's got a full and active social life and plenty of other interests and trolling is not one of them.
I wouldn't be so sure about any of that, including his age. ;)

JN4OldSchool
14th February 2007, 04:50 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about any of that, including his age. ;)

Bah...the internet is what you make it. I take people at face value until they tell me they were a vietnam war era general who is now a film star...Hey, if it is just a game they are playing then so be it. Ha ha, I was fooled...now get on with a life... :D

Seve
14th February 2007, 04:54 PM
No, our friend is a genuine new user, age 16
Hello:
Perhaps those new parental controls on Vista is preventing him from visiting again ?

Seve

bob
14th February 2007, 04:56 PM
Rupert, unless the snow's got them closed, I'm betting he's in school in Va. right now and that there was homework and good shows on last night. (the mods get access to a bit more info than you see).

RupertPupkin
14th February 2007, 05:27 PM
Rupert, unless the snow's got them closed, I'm betting he's in school in Va. right now and that there was homework and good shows on last night. (the mods get access to a bit more info than you see).
So you can verify his age, beyond just what he tells you? That's interesting.
But short of having a secret camera installed in his home, I doubt you know what he was doing last night. ;) For all we know he very well may have been trolling other distro forums. There are people like that, a lot of them are bored teenagers.

parish
14th February 2007, 05:58 PM
<...snip>a vietnam war era general who is now a film star...<...snip>
Well now that that's out in the open I may as well fess up to my Nobel Prize too... :D

Daniel

JLChafardet
14th February 2007, 08:26 PM
For all we know he very well may have been trolling other distro forums. There are people like that, a lot of them are bored teenagers.

lol indeed, i remember i offered to my partner to get FC4(some time ago) on his pc, and he agreed, he came, and i rolled it in, 2 days later, he was on windows, and i asked "what happened why are you on windows?" he told me that "im downloading ubuntu because it seems more usable the wireless thingy is a pain, and i cant listen to mp3 nor watch videos"

i have seen this behaviour in lots of people, and well who can blame them, they have been trying to get something out of the blue, in a enviroment thats totally new to them, not only that, too acustomed to use windows, which is, we linux users like it or not, way to easy to use, and that ease of usage/customization is one of the things that make people stick with it even knowing it sucks, for some others, experimenting different distros is one of the ways to go, Im one of those, I have used FC2, CentOS, Mandrivia, Suse, Ubuntu...... that being said even I went to ubuntu for about a year or so until now, that i decided to come back to FC.

I think, (personally speaking) all you need to try linux is determination, its that unstopable will of learn (i call it knowledge hunger), that drives you to go on forth, always looking to get what you want the way you want it, by yourself.

well maybe i went too deep into the subject LOL

cheers!

Boris Cat
14th February 2007, 09:04 PM
Fedora would make me mad...except one tiny problem............ I'm already crazy, just ask the voices in my head. :eek:

But as for the 'I cant play Mp3's... I dunno howto install java/flash/realplayer or share stuff over the network' crowd I have but 1 answer for them

Use the search forums button! :rolleyes:


Now to some proper news

Will FC7 work on my crummy old system?

AMD 1ghz Athlon
386meg Ram
SIS730 on board vid
SIS900 NIC
SIS7018 on board sound
14 gig HDD (would be 20 but windoze has nicked a bit and wont give it back :mad: )

Boris

linux newbie #542321251

John the train
15th February 2007, 12:19 AM
Boris. If you're not looking for a superfast system with all the bells and whistles such as Beryl I would expect FC7 should run on your box. I'm running FC6 on 900Mhz AMD processor, 256MB RAM and 20GB HD, and it runs OK. The trick is to start witth the basic desktop install, shut off all services that are not required, then if it still seems sluggish, consider switching from Gnome to one of the desktops with a smaller resource footprint, such as Xfce. I have got FC6 running on a laptop with 300Mhz and 192MB RAM, but it's quite stripped down, Abiword & Gnumeric rather than Open Office, Xfce, no video - no DVD drive! - in the final analysis I suppose the answer depends on your personal definition of ' work '.

glennzo
15th February 2007, 12:25 AM
Looks like the 'Fedora is making me mad' thread is quickly rising toward infamy of Fedora Forum. Maybe in a week or 2 it will be one of the most read and one of the most replied to posts. :D

Seve
15th February 2007, 12:29 AM
Looks like the 'Fedora is making me mad' thread is quickly rising toward infamy of Fedora Forum. Maybe in a week or 2 it will be one of the most read and one of the most replied to posts. :D
Hello glennzo:
Just depends if n00bfedora pops back in for a visit or not :cool:

Seve

bob
15th February 2007, 12:45 AM
And, btw, Community Managers can't verify age, gender or many things. We do have some additional access, mainly the IP addy, but nothing of a more personal or intrusive nature.

glennzo
15th February 2007, 02:16 AM
Hello glennzo:
Just depends if n00bfedora pops back in for a visit or not :cool:

SevePersonally, I think we scared him off.

JN4OldSchool
15th February 2007, 03:37 AM
And, btw, Community Managers can't verify age, gender or many things. We do have some additional access, mainly the IP addy, but nothing of a more personal or intrusive nature.

Dont y'all believe it, they know EVERYTHING :D

leigh123linux
15th February 2007, 01:01 PM
Personally, I think we scared him off.

He's probably really screwed up his PC installing Vista :D