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sheep
27th June 2006, 08:13 PM
I'm not very satisfied with GRUB, I was wandering if there's an easy way to install LILO using FC 5. "yum install lilo" doesn't seem to work. Any ideas ?

Jongi
27th June 2006, 08:24 PM
What's your dissatisfaction with Grub?

tebbens
27th June 2006, 08:27 PM
Get the source, compile and install.
http://lilo.go.dyndns.org/

sheep
27th June 2006, 08:49 PM
I'm used to LILO, I don't like the "pretty colors" of grub.

Ah .. I was hoping to get away without having to compile anything

stoat
27th June 2006, 09:14 PM
I'm used to LILO, I don't like the "pretty colors" of grub.I mean no offense, but that is the worst reason in the world to go back to LILO.

Edit your /etc/grub.conf file and comment out the splashimage line like this...
#splashimage=(hd2,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz(Add the pound sign). This will give you a DOS-like black screen with white letters.

It's been a long time since I used LILO, but I'm sure I remember having to do a lot of maintenance to it every time I updated my kernel. Not so with GRUB.

sheep
28th June 2006, 06:24 AM
Being used to a certain program is not a good reason to try to stick with it ? How so ?

stoat
28th June 2006, 12:34 PM
Being used to a certain program is not a good reason to try to stick with it ? How so ?Well, it's a reason but not necessarily a good reason when that program is fading in popularity and use, and when better alternatives may exist. In your original post, you indicated that you were not satisfied with GRUB. I made an effort to address your only complaint about it. You should go back to LILO if you want to. It just sounded to me like you needed some help with GRUB and were giving up.

But, I was mostly referring to your complaint about the GRUB splash screen. Did commenting out the splashimage line in your /etc/grub.conf file do anything for you?

BTW, most of the GRUB problems published here appear to be related to confusion about where it was installed, why that makes a difference, and not realizing what reinstalling a Windows OS will do to it.

tebbens
28th June 2006, 03:53 PM
Being used to a certain program is not a good reason to try to stick with it ? How so ?

There is no real interaction with Lilo or Grub.... I don't understand this statement.

If you don't like the "pretty colors" in GRUB close your eyes for a few seconds as it
passes by, or disable the splash screen as suggested above.

sailor
28th June 2006, 04:19 PM
You can change it too...here is a how-to I found somewhere:

The splash image is the image shown in the background when GRUB (the GRand Unified Bootloader) is displaying the list of operating systems you can boot. Typically, this is the corporate logo of your Linux distribution. But its very simple to customize it to an image of your choice. All you need is the GIMP and gzip. My GIMP version is 1.2. Even older versions may do the job.

Here's how: (You need to have root access)
1)Start the GIMP.
2)Click on File->New or type Ctrl+N
3)In the new image dialog, change Width to 640 pixels and Height to 480 pixels. (The image should be of size 640x480 pixels.) Now click OK.
4)Create the image which you would like to be the splash image. It's quite fun to experiment with the various tools of the GIMP!
5)After you have finished creating the image, hit Alt+i or right click on the image and click on Image->Mode->Indexed...
6)In the Indexed Color Conversion dialog that appears, click on the radio button "Generate optimal Palette" and in "# of colors" enter 14. Click OK.(The image should be of only 14 colors)
7)Now right-click on the image and click on File->Save As...Save the file as splash.xpm in a directory of your choice.
8)Now open a terminal window and navigate to the directory where you have saved splash.xpm
9)Now key in gzip splash.xpm
10)You will find that a file named splash.xpm.gz is created in the directory where splash.xpm used to exist.
11)Copy this splash.xpm.gz to the /boot/grub directory. You may want to back up the pre-existing splash.xpm.gz file in the /boot/grub directory first.

That's it! When you reboot, you will find your image in the background, with the menu of operating systems etc. in the foreground.

Jongi
29th June 2006, 01:42 PM
Sailor: I'll try that out to see if it solves this problem I was having (http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showpost.php?p=557209&postcount=5)

Jongi
29th June 2006, 03:03 PM
Wait, does the file that grub references have to be called splash.xpm.gz. Or could I have:

splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/jongi.xpm.gz

sheep
1st July 2006, 01:51 PM
You can have it as


splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/jongi.xmp.gz

as long as that file exists :)

Never mind, I've learned to get along with grub. Eh .. why close my eyes when I can fix it ? :) It was just that I was used to lilo's configuration file and look.

The loss of popularity of a cirtain program doesn't nec. make that program a bad program. Slackware surely has seen a decrease in popularity but that doesn't make it a bad distribution [p.s.: let's not start a holy war regarding if slackware sucks or not :)]

Anyway, I'vee seen a lot of people complaining about having problems with lilo and FC [something to do with LVM].

jimbo-62
1st July 2006, 02:45 PM
You can have it as


splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/jongi.xmp.gz

as long as that file exists :)

Never mind, I've learned to get along with grub. Eh .. why close my eyes when I can fix it ? :) It was just that I was used to lilo's configuration file and look.

The loss of popularity of a cirtain program doesn't nec. make that program a bad program. Slackware surely has seen a decrease in popularity but that doesn't make it a bad distribution [p.s.: let's not start a holy war regarding if slackware sucks or not :)]

Anyway, I'vee seen a lot of people complaining about having problems with lilo and FC [something to do with LVM].

Check the thread, "How to Boot FC with LILO", in the "How to Articles" forum. LVM may not be the problem, just a very unusual /etc/lilo.conf entry for FC.

Good luck, jimbo