View Full Version : HELP NEEDED with kernel update issues

29th April 2006, 09:10 AM
hello, im pretty mmuch a newbie, so maybe im doing something stupidly wrong, so if i am please point it out kindly, and i have scoured the internet for other people with this problem for a couple of hours now and none can be found so i dont think its a bug, but all the same i really need some help fairly quickly with this before school starts again and i can no longer focus getting my transition from windows xp --> FC4 completed.
Anywho when i update my kernel, either via yum or RPM, i can no longer connect to the internet! I have tried this twice now, doing a fresh reinstall of the whole of FC4 after trying the RPM, and just now i have tried again via yum and have had to remove the newer kernel via yum.
My current kernel is the 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 one that came with FC4, and i am trying to update it to 2.6.16-1.2096_FC4 kernel.
The installation and evrything goes of without a hitch but when i boot into the new kernel i cant connect to the internet. It recognises the card, says its there and all, but i cant ping myself, my router, www.google.com.au, or any website. also, i had a look round the back, and where the cat 5 is plugged in the orange light thats normally on when its plugged in didnt appear to be on. when i tried to browse the internet, it says "cant find (insert webist here). when i disable the device and re-enable it, it says it cant connect and to check that the cable is connected (which i did and it was fine, i hadnt touched it since 10 mins ago anyways under the older original kernel(2.6.11*), and it was working fine then, and i havent touched it since and its now forking on the same kernel (2.6.11*) please help someone? heres the output from some commands run using the current kernel (the 2.6.11 in case u havent been following):

[achidlow@localhost ~]$ arch

[achidlow@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 #1 Thu Jun 2 22:55:56 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[achidlow@localhost ~]$ /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 651 Host (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
# (above is the 10/100 ethernet card that wont connect to our router with updated kernel)
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)
# (in case ur wondering, the above is my wireless, which im still trying to get working under ANY kernel!!!)
00:10.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems (former Lucent Microelectronics) LT WinModem (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)

if you need to know anything else please ask, i wasnt sure what to put up. if you need output from using the kernel 2.6.16 then i could probably re-install it and run some commands for you. but PLEASE people i really need some help here, and it will be greatly appreciated if you culd contribute anything at all no matter wether there is a one in a billion chance it might work. thanks!

29th April 2006, 09:37 AM
Which kind of connections are you seeking? wired or wireless? cable or dsl?

29th April 2006, 09:48 AM
our connection is ADSL 1.5mbps download and 256kbps upload, i have an onboard LAN card as above, a SiS900 ethernet adapter, i am currently connected to our d-link DSL -G604T wireless router, which also has 4 connection thingys for that blue cable which is plugged into my computer and im connected to the first port, i think the correct terminology involves - RJ-45, Cat 5, UTP, stuff like that. its wired atm, ill get my wireless card working once everything else is (saving the biggest for last) if ur interested its a D-Link AirPlus DWL-G510 rev.b, specs: 54mpbs, b/g compatible, based on atheros ar5212 chipset, and under windows that works fine. but atm its more concering that with the latest kernel i cant connect to the internet, which will be required for me to get the wireless working, and thank you imdeemvp very much for your quick reply!

29th April 2006, 11:13 AM
i have found something that might be causing some of the erorrs, this is from http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq :

Common Problems FC4 -> FC5
* Before upgrading, uninstall all kernels < 2.6.14, otherwise initscripts and a few other packages will conflict and prevent the ugprade.
* After upgrading, selinux permissions may be incorrect, causing interesting failures such as metacity not starting. As suggested below, to fix this, run
o /sbin/fixfiles relabel

seeing as FC5 comes with (i think) a 2.6.15 kernel, could this be related??? if so how on earth can you uninstall a kernel before installing a new one? i thought the kernel was required to do ANYTHING at all on linux, so how can you then install a new kernel??? forgive me if this is a dumb question

29th April 2006, 04:10 PM
update: found a 2.6.14 kernel on an obscure ftp, and have succsefully updated to that. uninstalled 2.6.11 and now trying once more using yum to update to 2.6.16

29th April 2006, 05:09 PM
woohoo! im posting this running the newest stable kernel!!! (2.6.16-1.2096_FC4) looks like it was a bug after all, i'd report it but im not sure how...

5th July 2006, 11:16 AM
i think i'm havig the same problem.
could you please tell me where you got the 2.6.14 kernel?

that would be awesome.