FC5 DVD can't open all the .rpm files

eengnerd · #1 22nd March 2006, 05:47 PM

At first I tried to upgrade FC4 and I got as where the progress bar should begin moving across for the installation. Then I got a dialog box saying that it could not open a .rpm file because it was either missing or corrupt. I thought, well maybe it is "missing" in reality because the file is used by FC4, but not FC5. So I tried a fresh install, but got the same response on a different .rpm file "nscd-2.4.4.i386.rpm".

Of course I did try to customize the installation myself, which might be a mistake, given the current number of bugs. So I will try one more install without customization and do a post install customization. Thought you'd like to know about this problem.

Arthur Baldwin

steve941 · #2 22nd March 2006, 06:03 PM

sha1sum on the dvd iso, there's been issues with bad checksums
also could try mediacheck
my DVD iso matches sha1sum and i didn't burn it, i installed from the hard drive

eengnerd · #3 22nd March 2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eengnerd

At first I tried to upgrade FC4 and I got as where the progress bar should begin moving across for the installation. Then I got a dialog box saying that it could not open a .rpm file because it was either missing or corrupt. I thought, well maybe it is "missing" in reality because the file is used by FC4, but not FC5. So I tried a fresh install, but got the same response on a different .rpm file "nscd-2.4.4.i386.rpm".

Of course I did try to customize the installation myself, which might be a mistake, given the current number of bugs. So I will try one more install without customization and do a post install customization. Thought you'd like to know about this problem.

Arthur Baldwin

Well now, I tried a clean, somewhat uncustomized install. I only selected the checkboxes for "Development" and "Web Server". At the same point it now says the same message for another .rpm file, "libgnome-devel-2.14.0-1.i386.rpm". Either the file lists have extensive errors...or perhaps there's a bug in the driver for the CDROM drive. I suppose it could also be a security system setting that is set in some foolish way.

steve1961 · #4 22nd March 2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eengnerd

Well now, I tried a clean, somewhat uncustomized install. I only selected the checkboxes for "Development" and "Web Server". At the same point it now says the same message for another .rpm file, "libgnome-devel-2.14.0-1.i386.rpm". Either the file lists have extensive errors...or perhaps there's a bug in the driver for the CDROM drive. I suppose it could also be a security system setting that is set in some foolish way.

I got the same type of errors when trying to do a custom install, but the standard desktop install worked fine. I then customised it once it was up and running.

eengnerd · #5 22nd March 2006, 06:43 PM

Well I tried a completely uncustomized install and booted with a command line of "linux acpi=off pci=off". By the way, I did a "self check" on the DVD i386 installation CD and it says it passes. This current install attempt is done in text mode. And I still get the same message about another .rpm file called "libtheora". Obviously there will have to be a vastly improved re-release of the DVD iso image.

eengnerd · #6 22nd March 2006, 07:47 PM

Another update to this problem. I used the same exact DVD media to install FC5 on another machine and the install went very well. So it must be a hardware compatibility issue. However, I have installed FC4 several times on the problematic machine with no problems. So FC5 obviously has less stability in the hardware arena.

robatino · #7 24th March 2006, 03:54 AM

You probably experienced the mediacheck bug, which I reported here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=186512

The same bug causes this problem during installation if your hardware is vulnerable to it. This has been around as long as mediacheck itself (4 years). The fact that your one DVD passed mediacheck (you did check, right?) doesn't necessarily mean you're not vulnerable.

eengnerd · #8 24th March 2006, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by robatino

You probably experienced the mediacheck bug, which I reported here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=186512

The same bug causes this problem during installation if your hardware is vulnerable to it. This has been around as long as mediacheck itself (4 years). The fact that your one DVD passed mediacheck (you did check, right?) doesn't necessarily mean you're not vulnerable.

Robatino,

Yes, that is the problem in my case. Both FC4 and FC5 are doing the same thing. I tried to go back to FC4 and the same error message came up. So, since the DVD burner drive in the machine is somewhat old and I can get a reliable $59 Dual Layer DVD+/-RW drive, I'm just going to buy a new drive. I also used a bootable CD with a wide array of hardware testing software to test the DDR memory and M/B...just to make sure. I'm sure that replacing the CD drive will fix it.

robatino · #9 24th March 2006, 04:52 AM

It IS possible that changing drives will fix the problem, however don't assume that a newer drive will be less vulnerable. I have 3 different drives and the oldest one (from a 7-year old machine) is the only one not vulnerable. On the other hand, I suspect that it depends only on the drive and not on the machine it's in, so if you find a drive in someone else's machine that's not vulnerable, you could buy that model - but I'm not absolutely sure it depends only on the drive. Try getting one you can return if necessary.

eengnerd · #10 24th March 2006, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by robatino

It IS possible that changing drives will fix the problem, however don't assume that a newer drive will be less vulnerable. I have 3 different drives and the oldest one (from a 7-year old machine) is the only one not vulnerable. On the other hand, I suspect that it depends only on the drive and not on the machine it's in, so if you find a drive in someone else's machine that's not vulnerable, you could buy that model - but I'm not absolutely sure it depends only on the drive. Try getting one you can return if necessary.

Yes, I have a good friend who has had a privately owned PC retail shop for the last 15 years. It is the ONLY shop I trust to give me excellent quality hardware of any kind. He will allow me to return stuff within a two week period and will listen to my advice on finding new brands. We work together to create sales opportunities for both of us. I will let you know how the testing goes tomorrow.

Stevenjd · #11 24th March 2006, 08:37 AM

I had the same problem. Untill a changed media - I was using a +DVD RW disk. I burned to a - DVD R disk and that did the trick.

robatino · #12 24th March 2006, 08:29 PM

That's interesting - so it may depend on the media as well. However, you should realize that just because 1 DVD passes the mediacheck does NOT necessarily mean you're not vulnerable, it can happen by luck, but the install can still fail in the middle claiming there's a corrupt package (and even if the install doesn't fail, that can also happen by luck). I believe that having a disc pass is proof that the disc itself is good, but that's it. With 5 CDs, if one is vulnerable, usually at least one will fail.

qkmbr22 · #13 25th March 2006, 12:47 AM

I've installed FC4 on my Dell Inspiron 2600 a while ago and it worked fine. Now i tried FC5 (on 5 CDs because i dont have a DVD drive) and the installation is not working. I've done media checks (sometimes failing, sometimes passing), I've tried downloading the iso images from other mirrors and burning them again at various speeds, and the installation still fails. Everytime a different .rpm package is missing. Once i've got almost completely done with the first CD when some gui for a security monitor was missing... this is really annoying...

robatino · #14 25th March 2006, 12:50 AM

Does mediacheck work if you start the installer with "linux ide=nodma"? By work, I mean that each CD should either PASS, or maybe hang the installer (though you can restart it with Ctrl-Alt-Del). If you don't get any FAILs that way, you should be able to install without the corrupt package errors.

robatino · #15 25th March 2006, 12:52 AM

Also, if the ISO sha1sums agree with the SHA1SUM file, then the downloads are good, you don't have to download them again.