FC5 - Anaconda GUI don't appear

Phobeus · #1 20th March 2006, 09:25 AM

Hi,
hopefull anyone here has a good idea or might give me aguide how to track down the problem. First the scenario:
At the beginning of the installation, where anaconda launch the x-server and switch to graphic mode, I see a black screen. Some seconds later the "typical" X-Server-Mouse-Cursor appears and is moveable. However anaconda isn't going any further. The installer itself doesn't start, however no freeze or something similiar. The hash of the download was ok, the checmsum test during burning was okay, the medium check during installation has passed. This problem isn't known by me by former fedora core versions. When I launch the medium in a vm box it shows installation like normal, so I guess it is not the medium, but something that went wrong on my system.

The hardware since FC4 is a Logitech MX 1000 USB (I took it from the USB-Hub, the same problem) and a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT (no problem at FC4, so I guess that the normal nv driver should also don't make any trouble. I tried as boot parameter a vga=771 cause several LCD owner reported that this solved their problem (however, I have a CRT). Also trying to set a resolution=1024x768 doesn't change anything.

I guess the text mode would still work, but I fear that after installation the xorg might fail also somehow. Cause I have no real exotic hardware configuration, I am wondering that nobody else seems to have such a problem before. Would be happy, if we can track down the problem and find a explanation. However, I have no real experience in such issues. I attached the /tmp/X.org and /tmp/anaconda.log cause I guess these both files might be intersting?

Thanks in advice and please excuse my english... it's still to early

Regards,
Florian

multescugeorge@ · #2 20th March 2006, 06:11 PM

i guess that's why there is a xorg update available. I'm still downloading FC5, but you can try to make the update.
see:
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthr...700#post475700

Phobeus · #3 20th March 2006, 07:06 PM

I am not quite sure, what you mean? I should download and install ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/pub/fedora/...5.5.noarch.rpm
during Installation of FC5? Or do you just wanna say, I should give the text mode a try, cause a update for this problem might in the repository?

Phobeus · #4 20th March 2006, 09:25 PM

Looks like this problem is not related to the x-server anyhow. I just tried to make a installation in text mode, however after the media check, when anaconda starts, I just see a blue screen without anything going forward. I used "top" in shell to show me the running process and anaconda sticks with 99% cpu. So no way to get fedora 5 installed here. I am really have currently no idea anymore, cause my hardware configuration is nothing exotic and nobody else seems to have a problem. (I also tested fc4, everything is still fine there, it's just related to fc5). Anyone has a good idea or is it time for bugzilla?

tomcat · #5 20th March 2006, 09:44 PM

NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT!!! Look here:

http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthr...561#post475561

Phobeus · #6 20th March 2006, 11:53 PM

I am irritated. My problem ist not that I am unable to load non-gpl driver after installtion, but run the installation itself. Graphic and text mode both fails. Sounds to me like the thread explains what I had to do after installation.. doesn't it?

SlowJet · #7 21st March 2006, 08:40 PM

looking for USB mouse...
18:56:31 INFO : USB mouse found, loading mousedev module
18:56:31 INFO : modules to insert mousedev
18:56:31 DEBUG : module(s) mousedev not found
18:56:31 INFO : load module set done
18:56:31 ERROR : failed to loading mousedev module

Well, it is possibly the mouse.

However, go to this link and check out the boot options and kernenal options.
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=25826

Note thse option

noprobe
nopcmcia
nopass

There is a lot of change in the hal and udev between FC4 and FC5
so try another mouse
try noprobe - with your BIOS set to normal PnP and BIOS set to PCI and IRQ's set to auto (this is probably how it is set.

Then try to turn off PnP and change ESD data switch in bios to YES - a reset switch to allow FC5 to set IRQ's and device addresses.

Try it alos with the Auto set to BIOS sets the irq's.

It a process of detecting what it doesn't like.

Also try turning off the power control APCI in the BIOS.

But first try a different PS2 plug mouse.

SJ

SlowJet · #8 21st March 2006, 09:07 PM

Try the noudev - that's a newer parm than the other post link list.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=99033

But first try a different ... mouse.
SJ

Phobeus · #9 21st March 2006, 11:29 PM

Thanks for the answer.

First at all, I throw the FC4-DVD into drive to see, if there might be also this problem, but everything runs fine. So it is definitly something new in FC5 that cause the problem. I removed the usb mouse and use a traditional ps/2 mouse and even without a mouse. No success. Same goes to noudev, nopcmia (btw it's a desktop), nopass. Also deactivate ACPI and power management functions doesn't bring anything. But noprobe did the job and I saw the installation screen.

In the BIOS I only found "Plug in Play Aware OS", nothing explicite to deactivate PnP. Also I wasn't able to find anything for ESD. I remember this options exist on a older pc... it's getting late here, I will have a look if I find something about these option in the handbook (MSI KT4-Ultra) and will try some other options from the link you gave me.

kurtie · #10 22nd March 2006, 09:46 AM

Hi,

I have exactly the same problem. But with different hardware: my graphic card is an ATI and I am installing x86-64 FC5 on an AMD64, but the behaviour is exactly the same as what Phobeus has described.

I've tried graphical and text installation, USB mouse and PS/2 (because I was getting the same error in logs), noprobe, noudev... but always the same. Anaconda get stuck.

Comparing my logs with the ones posted by Phobeus I've found that the last line is the same:

18:57:08 WARNING : no floppy devices found but we'll try fd0 anyway

I have no floppy, and I think that the problem may be there, but for the moment I cannot install FC5.

Any solution? Thanks!

Regards,
Kurt.-

Phobeus · #11 22nd March 2006, 04:39 PM

Let us forget about mouses and graphic cards. Have a try if your installation is progressing when you start the CD with "linux noprobe". I just read, that noprobe is just stop probing the hw drives.So I have a Promise 20376 controller on my mainboard. Starting FC5 installation normally probes and loads "sata_promise". Guess what, if I start with noprobe and load these driver manually, it also hangs, else it starts. I guess this is the candidate for the troubles. I just looked into my /etc/modprobe.conf here on my FC4 system and ... yes, he also loads the sata_promise. Try to check, if you also have such a controller onboard, maybe we find the connection. If you can confirm this, I guess it's time to fill a bug.

However I need this driver, cause the target hard disk is a SATA drive. So has anyone a idea, how I manually can load another driver that might work... I guess it's not possible to load the old FC4 driver?

kurtie · #12 22nd March 2006, 04:52 PM

Oops... my motherboard also has a SATA Promise controller (I don't remember model number at this time), and driver loaded in FC4 as well as in FC5 is sata_promise.. Maybe a problem with that driver?

Phobeus · #13 22nd March 2006, 05:21 PM

So the "sata_promise" module is also loaded on your pc? That would be great... we might have the problem then located. I just filled in a bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=186272. So maybe other are effected also.

kurtie · #14 22nd March 2006, 05:38 PM

Nice idea. I've also posted a comment to that bug with my hardware information in Bugzilla... it seems that only common point is Promise controller (mine is 20378).

Best regards,
Kurt.-

Dionysos21 · #15 22nd March 2006, 07:41 PM

im having the same problem, but im using VIA sata (main drives) and Silicon Image sata (secondary)... so.. who knows..