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23rd August 2005, 10:39 PM

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New Yum guide

A new Fedora Yum guide by Fedora docs contributor and steering committee member Stuart Ellis has been published recently

It covers many details including the concepts of packages, dependency resolving, gpg signatures and of course yum itself in a detailed manner

http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/

Post your feedback and suggestions to

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/l...dora-docs-list

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24th August 2005, 02:09 AM

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Next step: Try yumex!

Once you are comfortable with yum, try yumex (Yum Extender), a GUI to yum.

It is in Fedora Extras for FC4 or download it at the homepage for FC3.

2nd October 2005, 06:54 AM

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Personally why do you need to use Yum GUI, you are making it more like windows, bring back the command line I say!

2nd October 2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimmonds

Personally why do you need to use Yum GUI, you are making it more like windows, bring back the command line I say!

Simple. Freedom of choice how you want things to be done. GUI or CLI. That's the beauty of it!

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3rd October 2005, 09:41 AM

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I agree choice is a great thing!
I especially like to be able to choose new programs to try from the description give in the install window of yumex, which I don't think is available from the yum command.
(at least I don't know how to do it yet)
I would love to know if there is any way of finding out about new releases at each of the repos, something along the lines of http://linux.softpedia.com/, which is great but provides the latest programs in source which then don't seem to be available for update through yum, or is there a way?

31st October 2005, 09:45 PM

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jsimmonds

In the case particular of YUM, I have to agree. It seems that anything "added to" YUM slows it down by 500% at least. YUM is meant for the comand line. It is a particular fashion of updating soft. But since we are on the subject of graphical interfaces Synaptic is a much faster updater, however YUM is more accurate and allows for fewer glitches. I personally wouldn't use either GUI for updates, but that's my choice. Then again, I would use them to get a general overview of my packaging situation. Visuals help a lot in that. Also, Synaptic, even if you do not use it for updating from third party sites (normally to avoid), is good for deletion of apps and configs. So it remains a good tool for Fedora. YUMex is as slow as cat caca. I have to say that because it's true. It's even slower than YUM.... (cli)...., and that's really slow.

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7th November 2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimmonds

Personally why do you need to use Yum GUI, you are making it more like windows, bring back the command line I say!

I use the command line if I know exactly what I want, but a GUI is vastly superior for browsing through packages and descriptons.

Now if only there was a GUI as good as Synaptic..

7th November 2005, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by angrykeyboarder

I use the command line if I know exactly what I want, but a GUI is vastly superior for browsing through packages and descriptons.

Now if only there was a GUI as good as Synaptic..

Or even better than synpatic.

see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future

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7th November 2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by datmrman

Once you are comfortable with yum, try yumex (Yum Extender), a GUI to yum.

It is in Fedora Extras for FC4 or download it at the homepage for FC3.

Even better than Yumex, is Kyum .

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7th November 2005, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RahulSundaram

Or even better than synpatic.

see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC5Future

I suppose it depends on one's definition of better

GUI package manager (replacing system-config-packages) that avoids the synaptic like long list of packages with a better task oriented system that shares the code with Anaconda installer and use Pup Updater for package updating as well as a means to replacing the current applet

I like the long list of packages in Synaptic, divided in to package groups.

SMART package manager has the right idea. I'm surprised it's been so lagging in development. Not to mention, not many even know it exists.

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7th November 2005, 08:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by angrykeyboarder

I suppose it depends on one's definition of better

GUI package manager (replacing system-config-packages) that avoids the synaptic like long list of packages with a better task oriented system that shares the code with Anaconda installer and use Pup Updater for package updating as well as a means to replacing the current applet

Its better to wait for the software to exist before commenting on the ideas. There is no reason one cant use other GUI frontends or set preferences for a long list.

Smart is a completely different package manager. Its not merely a frontend. If anyone is interested in having that for Fedora, go ahead and package it in Fedora Extras

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras

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7th November 2005, 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by datmrman

Once you are comfortable with yum, try yumex (Yum Extender), a GUI to yum.

It is in Fedora Extras for FC4 or download it at the homepage for FC3.

don't make me laugh!

if you're comfortable with yum, why bother moving to a gui?!

i could understand if you're a n00b and started off with yumex, you should move to yum once you're comfortable with yumex.

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8th November 2005, 08:05 PM

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I tried both kyum and yumes and was intitially hooked. I thought it was the greatest.

Then I began to see that these programs messed up my yum.repo.d/*.repo files, making changes. It messed up my system. I had to restore my original .repo files and rpm -e the two guis.

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10th November 2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by angrykeyboarder

Even better than Yumex, is .

OK, I tried it, and it smokes! It is actually fast! This has got to be the best YUM GUI around. As far as file corruption in "repo.d" goes..., I haven't had the experience. Everything works smoothly. Yet I do my cleanups via a term and my configs by hand. And thank you for the heads-up on that!

I wasn't aware of the app until you mentioned it. I havent used KDE in years so I decided to give it a try. It has improved by 1,000%. And the fact is,it is in general, much less of a memory hog than GNOME at this stage.