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Old 3rd March 2005, 07:33 PM
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Angry WineX (Cedega)

I'm trying to install winex on my FC3.
I am a total newbie and after some problems i'm compiling and installing manually cedega.
When i give the command "make all"for compile, after a big piece of compilation, it says:
gcc -o wine miscemu/miscemu.o -L./dlls -lntdll -L./library -lwine -L./unicode -lwine_unicode -L./port -lwine_port -lm
miscemu/miscemu.o(.text+0x1242): In function `main':
/root/winex/miscemu/main.c:114: undefined reference to `set_shared_memory_reserved'
miscemu/miscemu.o(.text+0x1280):/root/winex/miscemu/main.c:118: undefined reference to `wine_mmap_add_reserve'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [wine] Error 1

What can I do?
Help, please!
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P.S.: Excuse-me for the horrible english language, but i'm an italian young boy (14 years old).
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Old 3rd March 2005, 09:06 PM
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Not enough info to determine a solution

here is a Cedega exception list - there is an rpm for it. http://downloads.transgaming.com/fil...leasenotes.txt
several things in there are needed before instal.

Wine - Why are you compliing it when there is a rpm install?
Install in root and install the winetools in user (then go through the list to make a windows system and install the basics - ie6, oe, vbrun files, make configuration files, do all of it.

Now the question - If Cedga is a Linux rpm what does that have to do with Wine.
UNless you plan to be a Wine developer there is no need to complie it. (It's more about configuring and loading needed DLL's)
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Old 4th March 2005, 03:51 AM
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Perhaps, SlowJet, he didn't know there was an RPM. And Cedega is based on Wine - it's a (currently) proprietary extension of it. Transgaming has made several pledges to support Wine and supply changes, but I have yet to hear of them actually doing so (not that I pay a lot of attention). Also, I believe you have to pay for Cedega - please correct me if I'm wrong and you're not referring to *ahem* borrowed binaries or source code.
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Old 4th March 2005, 04:03 AM
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Well, crackers, it did strick me as a half breed at first but I thoht I was seeing things.
It said rpm and rpm and windows usually don't mix.
But mainly the cedega program seemed to be way behind in several areas and needed a special environment to live in.
And according to the txt file given it isn't going to live in FC3 or wine without some downgrading.

ok, consider yourself corrected because no one was saying what your imagining.

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Old 4th March 2005, 12:39 PM
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i know there is a WineX rpm, but i want to have Cedega, not WineX
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Old 4th March 2005, 02:18 PM
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I was NOT happy with Cedega or the transgaming site. I think they mislead people as to how many games are "supported". In fact, it's not even clear what "supported" means. This is not directly relevant to matbotlinux's question but I'd like to comment further.

I first paid to get Cedega when I saw on a list of "most popular" games the game Sims 2, which my stepdaughter plays. I wanted to dump XP altogether so I thought this would be a good solution. This most popular list is what I came to when I clicked on "games database." You can do so yourself here

Turns out "most popular" has nothing to do with playability or support by Cedega and Transgaming. In fact, I still don't know what it means. There was also a category of "Recently Approved/Edited" which would seem to imply that they work or are supported. Nope, means no such thing. I had several responses attempting to explain exactly what that category is about, but I still don't get it. Also "recently added"...added to what? Officiall supported games? Nope.

They also rank games by "playability" but this STILL does not imply official support. In fact, these playability rankings are based on votes of members, often only one or two votes.

Combined with the small print that it probably won't work with FC3-2.6.9 (and above?) you have a real mess.

Of course, you can just check out the discussion of the playability of various games in the forums or in the bug submission page, right? Not unless you are already a member.

Personally, I believe the site is laid out in a way that is intentionally misleading. I can't really see any other explanation. going back to the games database page, I see Sims 2 back on the list. I was told that because of the Direct X (I don't remember if it is 9 or now) it could not be played in LInux period. So why is it so popular on a site about transferring games to Linux?

I went out, to be fair, and bought a game that was "officially supported". I don't know where you find the list of officially supported games, but someone on the forums said Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic was officially supported. It didn't work. Couldn't read my CD...got the no CD hack (to be fair, people in Windows have had to resort to this, also...bad CD ROM copy protection software) but still no luck.

Sorry for the rant, but save your money.
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Old 4th March 2005, 05:06 PM
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I have no complaints

I have been using WineX/Cedega since version 2 and I have always been quite happy with it, it puts linux in general at a much better state then it was when it comes to games. If you go into it with extremely high expectations for game support you will be dissapointed, but it will play most major games extremelly well and even some lesser known games without any problems. You can't tell that with certain games that they are being emulated with recent versions. Getting these games running on FC is a different story. I have had to disable and enable certain things to get all of the games to work, pre-linking must be off, enable legacy VA_LAYOUT, and I had to disable exec-shield to get a lot of games running correctly. none of this is a big deal for me because it really hasn't changed anything about how my desktop runs. My response to the original question is to pay the $5 a month and get the rpm, it installs without any hassle and makes life a lot easier on you.
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Old 4th March 2005, 05:08 PM
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What can I do?!
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Old 4th March 2005, 05:36 PM
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they are the same thing

WineX and Cedega are the same thing, cedega is what WineX is called now. Use the rpm not the tgz. it will work that way.
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Old 4th March 2005, 06:10 PM
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i installed the winex3.3.1 rpm
Cedega is now installed in my pc?
But cedega is not free, why there is an rpm free if cedega is not free?
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Old 4th March 2005, 06:17 PM
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cedega is newer

cedega would be equal to WineX 4, they changed the name of WineX at version 4 to Cedega.
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Old 4th March 2005, 06:20 PM
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i didn't know it.
And the 4 version is not free.
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Old 4th March 2005, 07:57 PM
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I still say that transgaming's site is misleading. I'm glad it worked for you, but I won't pay them after I was made to think certain games were supported that were known not to work.
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Old 18th March 2005, 04:59 PM
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Ok, I Installed Cedega and Point2Play (Yahoo!) .
Now, where can I found "Winesetup" program for generate the (famous) config file?
Someone can link the site where can I download it?
Thanks.
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Old 18th March 2005, 11:41 PM
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I didnt have to generate any config file when installing Cedega on Fedora Core 3. I installed the two rpms (Point2Play and Cedega) and that was it. Also keep in mind that Cedega and Winex are the same program, Winex is just the old name for the old version. Point2play is a GUI for Cedega.

The easiest way to install them is to download the Point2Play latest rpm. Install and run it, go in the "Version" tab and click on "Get latest version". It will download the latest Cedega package and it will install it. (Note : you need a transgaming account to be able to download (15$)).

There is some issues between Fedora and Cedega because of Prelink & Exec-Shield so you should read this : http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/...nd_Exec-Shield

To make it simple :

Type this code in the console as root :

echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield

then run

Point2Play


Run all the tests and if everything is fine, click on the install button on the right and enter the path of your windows game install.exe or setup.exe file.

If you have any issue after installing a supported game, check out this forum : http://transgaming.org/forum/index.php

Don't try to install games that are not listed in the transgaming forum, they will not work.

I play recent supported games (WoW, CS, DoD, HL2, CoH, WC3) with Cedega and FC3 and after some struggle, I am very happy with it.

Good Luck and have fun playing on Linux!
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