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Old 3rd February 2005, 04:17 PM
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Thumbs up Ubuntu as an installed OS - very easy to do simple things on!

Ok, I tried Ubuntu on the Live CD, and depending on the machine, I had varying results.

2/5 machines simply did not work.

1/5 of them worked but with no wireless support at all, and I could not figure how to get that to work, so it was fine for some simple desktop use, but nothing more.

the remaiing 2 machines worked perfectly (oddly enough it the remaining 2 machines are built of pretty much the cheapest components out there??)

I decided to install it on one of the machines that it had little problem with when I used thelive CD.
I had some tricks to get over, but with a bit of help and some time sat in a room on my own thinking about it, I was able to get round them, now for the last couple of days my Ubuntu machines has worked pretty much as well as I would expect it to, And is sat along side my FC machine.

What do I think of the 2 installs? Fedora is far superior to Ubuntu in almost every way.
Fedora is simply nicer to work with.

The actual install process, now theres a difference, Ubuntus install looked like something from the old Novell days, horrible blue background with grey text, yuk
The FC anaconda (I think) install looks so much better, so much more welcoming, and so much more like a modern OS install.

Once I got into Ubuntu (excluding my initial problems, as I had some problems with FC as well) Ubuntu is actually quite nice to work with.

The brown background is a bit dull, but I grabbed a nicer background from the wallpaper section of the gallery at fedoraforum, so looks better now.

The layout of the menu's in Ubuntu is a little different to FC, but not massivly different. (Its a bit odd not having a root account though)

And apt-get is pretty powerful, but I prefer a combination of up2date and yum (personal preference)

There is one package that I have not used before called the Synaptic package manager (I think) this is pretty powerful, and if there is something like it for FC, please point it out, I like the fact you can get a huge list of packages, and you can choose what you want to install, dependencies are also really easy to work with as well; you choose something, you get told what else you need, and you can confirm you want to install them as well. Great (almost like a gui version of yum)

I have been wanting to try the gdeklets out for some time (mainly because of the images in the gallery at this site) but I have so far been completely unable to install this on my FC3 machine, I seem to get this endless list of things I am missing, I find and install the thing that is missing, and try to configure gdesklets again, and there is something else I need.

Ubuntu ->
Code:
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
uncomment the following
Quote:
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted universe
Code:
sudo apt-get update
Quote:
then go to the Computer menu (modified Actions menu)> System Settings> Synaptic Package manager>
you get a massive list of what is available > search for gdesklets, select it, your told what else you need, agree to install them and apply your changes, the files are downloaded and installed to your machine
Quote:
go to Applications> Run Application > gdesklets
and Applications> Run Application>
gdesklets /usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/sysinfo-desklet/sysinfo.display
and thats it - it just works.

I wish I could do that in FC!

The above was not meant to be a how-to - I appreciate that this is not an Ubuntu forum, I was just making a point, I prefer FC, it seems to be loads better than Ubuntu (it just seems to have that X factor) but so far Ubuntu is proving to be a lot simpler to use.

Just thought I would share my experiences so far

Dave

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Old 3rd February 2005, 05:41 PM
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Apt and Synaptic. This guide should get you there, but is for FC3. You are running?

http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_cor...notes.html#Apt
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Old 3rd February 2005, 06:01 PM
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yes got FC3 on my other machine, have just been told how to get apt from void main's site, but like the thought of getting synaptic.

thanks for the link

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Does Ubuntu have a 64bit version?
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Old 3rd February 2005, 07:35 PM
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yes there is a 64bit Ubuntu (and don't forget they will post it to you for free, but will taje about 4 weeks)

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apt-get install synaptic
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Does Ubuntu have a 64bit version?
Yes I got 3 amd 64bit cds they sent me.....if you in america pm with address and i will send you one.

Thanks for info about abuntu....I still have not gotten a chance to install it.
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Thanks for info about abuntu....I still have not gotten a chance to install it.
back at you...
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The brown background is a bit dull, but I grabbed a nicer background from the wallpaper section of the gallery at fedoraforum, so looks better now.
Its one of your submissions

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Old 4th February 2005, 02:16 AM
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The beauty of linux....
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Old 4th February 2005, 03:14 AM
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No need for that MVP I have dsl so it won't take long to download a 500mb iso via bit torrent, thank you anyway.

Side note: MVP do you live here at the forum, I mean 4888 posts, do you sleep?
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MVP do you live here at the forum, I mean 4888 posts, do you sleep?
Nope I dont.....there are days I can post a lot and there are days I may post 2-5 the most and weekends I am always doing something with the family.....for 4-6 hours and my kids go away with there friends which are teenagers too. Yes I do have some spare time.....I try not to spend a lot of money since I am saving for their college.
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