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Old 19th June 2013, 06:07 AM
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system-config-lvm retired

In F19, there is no system-config-lvm package.

Here I can see it's retired : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/s...config-lvm.git

But there are no explanation and no alternative...
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Old 19th June 2013, 06:18 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

I hadn't even noticed it was missing. I used it to modify some free space and attach a new volume to the volume group back in F18, when I needed some extra space to work with a VMWare VM in a pinch. It came in handy then, so in anticipation of possibly needing it again I downloaded and installed the last F19 package for it. You may want to download it while it still is available.
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Old 19th June 2013, 06:21 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Hi

Older packages will always be available from http://koji.fedoraproject.org but you might be better off using other programs instead of relying on something unmaintained.
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Old 19th June 2013, 06:43 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

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Hi

Older packages will always be available from http://koji.fedoraproject.org but you might be better off using other programs instead of relying on something unmaintained.
What program replaces system-config-lvm ?
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Old 19th June 2013, 07:28 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Hi

Nothing in particular. LVM is supposed to be supported by GNOME Disks interface but I haven't really used. I just use plain lvm commands which work fine. YMMV
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Old 19th June 2013, 08:15 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

LVM is supported by GNOME Disks but it doesn't seem to be able to do what system-config-lvm could do, which is why I used it in a hurry. But, you can use command line commands to do the same things. If you aren't savvy with command line work, though, system-config-lvm is helpful. It's going away so you may have to learn the command line commands until something else comes along.

Is Fedora going to XFS like Red Hat has discussed, or are they still going to BTRFS? If they are, there likely won't be a need for further development on system-config-lvm.
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Old 19th June 2013, 08:19 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

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There are no plans for Fedora to move to XFS by default. There are lots of differences between RHEL and Fedora because Fedora isn't targeted towards enteprise users. Fedora has made plans to move to Btrfs before but it has been postponed and there is no new schedule for it.
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Old 19th June 2013, 08:35 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Why is system-config-lvm being retired, then?
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Old 19th June 2013, 08:41 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

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Why is system-config-lvm being retired, then?
Because noone is interested in maintaining it.
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Old 19th June 2013, 09:32 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Ah, well, that is as good a reason as any. If I had the skills I might consider taking it on. But, I don't at present and messing with peoples' data with limited programming skills is not on my list of things to do.
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Old 20th June 2013, 08:46 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

xfs would not be a replacement for LVM even if Fedora were to use it (I don't know of any plans to do that either). LVM is a volume management system, not a filesystem. You still need to put a filesystem on LVM volumes. xfs is a filesystem, not a volume management system. Fedora is ext4-on-LVM by default; if anything, xfs would replace the ext4 bit of that, not the LVM bit.

(btrfs is both a filesystem and a volume management system. Also a cocktail mixer, blender, and vacuum cleaner!)

gnome-disks is the official replacement for s-c-lvm - it's what went into comps when s-c-lvm was taken out - but indeed it can't do everything s-c-lvm did, though it would be nice if it got extended.
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Old 20th June 2013, 09:46 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Well, I understand better the situation. Thanks for the information. What would happen if the code from system-config-lvm were to be added to Gnome-disks as an added feature?

On my system, I have both gnome-disks installed and system-config-lvm. They compliment each other but it would be so cool to import and tweak the code from the one to the other and add a menu item and/or button to launch it from gnome-disks.

If I could do it effectively I would do it in a heartbeat. It might be something I can do sometime in the future, if someone else doesn't do it. I would want to run anything I did past someone more experienced, though, if I did.
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Old 20th June 2013, 05:49 PM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

Well, they aren't even written in the same language so you cannot just copy paste code and in any case, the implementation is wildly different. If you want additional features, you need to write them from scratch using the new library - liblvm.
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Old 20th June 2013, 06:29 PM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

So it is. That would be a royal pain. Looks like LVM is a non-goal of those involved with gnome-disks, anyway, if the following is indicative.

https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks

Guess I'd better become an advanced user and start using the command line in preparation for F20...

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Old 21st June 2013, 02:47 AM
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Re: system-config-lvm retired

well, that's a pretty old page, things may have changed. but I'm not saying they have, I don't have any specific data either way. I could try and find a minute to check with davidz.
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