anyone who host thier own site w/ comcst...

Uhlix · #1 8th December 2004, 02:19 AM

Anyone who does that and did it on port 80 ever been shutdown? im curious because i just started running a small little rinky dink site mainly to practice setting it up and secureing it. I also use FTP on the default port.

so just cursious if anyone has ever accually been shutdown for doing that, if so did they say anything to you such as a warning email or did they just block the port?

and if its a pretty common thing, anyone know if bellsouth DSL is better for at home hosting?

frankly i think its BS that they block a port, not like i am running some super bandwitdh leeching site or anything, heck i would even add a nice little Hosted on comcast link if they would let me keep my site up =), i am happy with there service overall and always have been but for some reason the fact they are blocking ports kinda bothers me.

-uh

Dog-One · #2 8th December 2004, 02:51 AM

Can't say about Comcast, but I did do it with RoadRunner. I should have purchased the business package, though it's a bunch more money. The User Agreement specifically states "no servers". And the rule of thumb seems to be, don't get caught. The RoadRunner newsgroups had a lot of talk about the subject. Many folks rationalized that if RR don't want it, they should just block it, but they don't. RR did periodically do scans of their network, I saw them in my firewall logs. So they know what you're up to. I'm pretty sure they knew I wasn't running Windows 10 minutes after the installers left my house and I think they knew I had an email and webserver running. But nothing was ever said. I suspect they do that should you end up propagating a virus or something--then they can nail you to the wall with their lawyers. They seem to like the cash flow enough that the leave you alone as long as you don't make waves. Like I said, I never received a warning via email or on my monthly statement and I never had my service cut off for infractions of the User Agreement.

If you want to be in the clear and can afford it, I do recommend getting a business class link to your ISP.

Uhlix · #3 8th December 2004, 03:01 AM

Yea deffently cant afford the biz plans, and dont really want to be all stealthy and run on diffrent ports as im trying to set up and maintain a legetimate site =). Guess I will just let things play out and see how it goes, i do have the default page running if you just visit my IP...so i can just say...ehh uhh i didnt know how to turn that off =) although the user agrement says somthing about that in there, along the lines of being dumb on the subject wont save you. But there isnt anything illegal going on in my site just some family photos and crap like that.

Maybe if i can convince a few people to let me host some files for a charge i could afford the bis plan, im not even sure how much those cost =) but im sure it would be cheaper to just get one of those $5 a month host =p but there isnt any fun or knowledge to be gained in those.

sailor · #4 8th December 2004, 03:08 AM

Roadrunner doesn't really want you running routers(multiple machines on same line) either, but I don't think they can detect that? I let the installers do their thing to the my windows box, then once they left the router was on and the the other 2 machines.
Another thing about RR is that I think it was pretty crappy was to "throttle" the cable modems and then later offer a faster "premium" service. I am gonna look for the original brochures they had that promised "??? speed" and ask for a refund or premium service at no charge. I bet that there was probably some fine print somewhere that allows them to do that but I am not sure.

Uhlix · #5 8th December 2004, 03:16 AM

Even though i swore i would never get DSL agian because of bad service a year ago....check out what i found on there homepage.

Quote:

Q. Does BellSouth offer a Static IP?
A. Yes. BellSouth offers a single static IP address to give your home a fixed Internet address. It is perfect for home office users or those connecting to a corporate network. Static IP allows a wonderful experience for those gaming enthusiasts. You can also easily host your own games.

Now if they would allow you to "host your own games" to me it sounds like they are friendlyer to allowing self hosters. Imma read around some more and see what i can dig up in the fine print. =)

and im comcast agreements it also says i can only have one computer hooked up and cant use a router/hub. Funny how much stuff they hide deep deep in those terms, not just that there are alot of other things.

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Wow i have to add this as well, they seem to way more lieant(sp?) compared to cable

Quote:

Q. What are the benefits of FastAccess HomeNetworking Plus?
A. Home networking is great for sharing files on your computer, sharing equipment such as printers throughout the home, and accessing more and better entertainment and information. For example, gamers can enjoy playing head-to-head with other members of the family or with people across the country. With FastAccess HomeNetworking Plus, all of the computers on your network can play and use the Internet at the same time. And with the FastAccess HomeNetworking Plus solution, a firewall is included to assist in protecting all of the computers on your network from hacker attacks. You will also receive Parental Controls Plus and Firewall monitor – at no additional charge

crackers · #6 8th December 2004, 04:45 AM

I trust IPTables and PortSentry a heckuva lot more that I'd trust something that comes with market-speak like that. "Hacker attacks!" I'm having one right now - laughing my butt off!

On the other hand, having something there is better than the default...

Uhlix · #7 8th December 2004, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by crackers

I trust IPTables and PortSentry a heckuva lot more that I'd trust something that comes with market-speak like that. "Hacker attacks!" I'm having one right now - laughing my butt off!

On the other hand, having something there is better than the default...

haha i know, you should read some of the other things they said...funny stuff

sad part is, i bet they are talking about the built in features of a router when they refer to "You will also receive Parental Controls Plus and Firewall monitor – at no additional charge"

crackers · #8 8th December 2004, 07:59 AM

Oh, probably. You could get lucky and it's a Linksys product - that runs on Linux, y'know...

sailor · #9 8th December 2004, 03:13 PM

I think it means that you will have to rent a router from them?

Uhlix · #10 8th December 2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sailorsgh

I think it means that you will have to rent a router from them?

well they said somewhere on there site that they support other routers

Uhlix · #11 8th December 2004, 04:40 PM

Well to let everyone know who might of been curious, i talked to bellsouth and asked them if they block any services or ports and he said that they did not do that.

sej7278 · #12 8th December 2004, 05:12 PM

i've had my linux box (nicely firewalled!) running a web server off port 80 (and 8080 - don't you love virtualhosts?!) for two years with my comcast 3mbps/256kbps home package.

i even ssh into it occasionally from work.

i think they'd only ***** if you put a news server on there (or maybe email?)

luibh · #13 8th December 2004, 06:23 PM

ive played with apache on my windows desktop with comcast, never kept it up for any great length of time. had no trouble with comcast. since comcast has dynamic ip addresses, no-ip.com was handy for windows. havent looked for anything similar to it for linux.

one of these days ill put a linux server online for me and my family.

EDIT: just realized that no-ip.com does have a linux client