The futuristic design of all Gnome Apps

[stevea]

Just what I need .... on my phone.

[robertdaleweir]

CLI (TUI) still works, open a terminal and they all look the same

[StephenH]

Originally Posted by Dan

Methinks I'm glad I have re-discovered E17.

I would consider it if it were in the Fedora repos. I've played with Bodhi Linux a bit and there are some things I like and some things that definitely tell me it isn't quite ready for prime time--things like only a choice between an analog clock and a 'digital' clock that looks like an old number-flip style that my wife had when we got married in 1975. Now that is a bit too retro, even for me.

I suppose there are other themes available, but I have not seen any that add different styles of clock faces. To be honest, I haven't looked very hard though.

What I really hope is that Fedora will make Xfce 4.10 available in the regular channels for F17 and not make everyone wait for F18. I installed via the alternative repo (see post #8 here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=278354 ), and have been quite pleased with the improvements in functionality and stability of Xfce 4.10 over 4.08. I have not noticed any negative side-effects from installing it, so there really seems to be no good reason for not making it available.

As for this "futuristic design of all Gnome apps," They can keep them. Unless the Gnome developers can convince tablet makers to use Linux with a Gnome UI, tablets will not happen as Apple, Android, and possibly Microsoft will have that market locked-down so tight that it will be impossible to change out any of them for Linux/Gnome (or any other alternative for that matter). It will even become more difficult for desktop systems and laptops/netbooks as Microsoft et al restrict even more what we can do with the hardware we purchase.

[Dutchy]

I rather see them improving the current design than completely messing it up again.
This way it'll never stop being a constant work in progress.

[RupertPupkin]

Well I for one welcome our futuristic GNOME overlords!

Sure, I don't use GNOME, and never really have, because I think it's always sucked. But this design is obviously aimed at the younger generation of tablet and phone users who are used to that kind of interface. So for them it will be a familiar design and will probably make using a desktop a bit easier. And for the crusty old farts who are perpetually stuck in 1997 and want a Windows 95ish interface, there will be alternatives or some kind of fallback mode that gives them the start menu and taskbar they're so fond of.

Me, I'll keep using WIndow Maker because I prefer to be stuck in 1991.

[secipolla]

[Pitfall]

<sarcasm>
Finally, now I can find my wallpaper by typing in the name (25834394-1280-1024.png) instead of going through 4 images.
Removing buttons/menu's and inserting a search textfield is revolutionary.
</sarcasm>

I understand that the GNOME team wants to make the UI as clean as possible. But does the end-user want that? No. The end-user wants a feature rich, yet clean UI. GNOME-team: note the 'feature rich' part. Simply removing options does not make for a clean UI. It creates an empty UI. They should've looked at Dolphin or Firefox, they hide the 'advanced options' in a button so the average Joe cannot ruin it. Clean, yet it still provides the neccesary options.

Their goal of creating a desktop/tablet hybrid Desktop Environment simply failed. I don't think that there ever will be a perfect hybrid solution. However, KDE might solve this problem by creating different activities so the user chooses between them. For instance, you could have a desktop and a tablet activity on the same machine and still use it for different purposes. When tablets are powerful enough to replace laptops, I think the KDE approach will be the best one out there. I would happily buy a device that does that.

GNOME is dead! Long live KDE!

[Bazu135]

Originally Posted by Pitfall

GNOME is dead! Long live KDE Xfce!

Fixed it for ya

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by Bazu135

GNOME is dead! Long live KDE Xfce Window Maker!

Fixed that for you!

[deanej]

Futuristic? Windows 3.1 was more sophisticated than this!

[flyingfsck]

Basically the Gnome developers threw in the towel in the desktop war and conceded that KDE and even XFCE or LXDE are better and got tired of being an 'also ran', so they looked for a different ball park to play in. They sure found one.

RedHat will have to pick a different default DE for desktops though, because Gnome just doesn't do it.

[Gareth Jones]

Originally Posted by Pitfall

I understand that the GNOME team wants to make the UI as clean as possible. But does the end-user want that? No. The end-user wants a feature rich, yet clean UI.

Careful. There's more than one end user!

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by Gareth Jones

Careful. There's more than one end user!

Not if you listen to some of the more rabid GNOME 3 haters! Their preferences are universal, and the millions of end users using GNOME 3 and supposedly "liking" it are purely imaginary.

[dragonbite]

I don’t really like to explain why Gnome developers do what they do, ...

Doesn't "like to" or doesn't know any better "why" than anybody else.

It looks interesting, and could be thrown together to be usable, but it seems they are sticking their head in the sand to all of the feedback and continuing on an agenda nobody seems to know!

I already find Unity for usable than Gnome, though there are some nice features of Gnome-shell... just the UI is not one of them!

It also doesn't seem to look like it would be all that much more functional on a tablet than the existing solutions. I am more curious about KDE's Active interface for tablets as they are already building tablets using this interface (Vivaldi).

I think it would be more usable if they emulated the Metro interface!

[deanej]

Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

Not if you listen to some of the more rabid GNOME 3 haters! Their preferences are universal, and the millions of end users using GNOME 3 and supposedly "liking" it are purely imaginary.

Frankly, I don't see how anyone could want an empty UI. If you want an iPad, buy an iPad. If you want to use the command line for everything, use the command line for everything. But normal users want something in between those two extremes, and Gnome is moving more and more away from that.