Why isn't NetBeans IDE in Fedora 17?

[DoomDeathMetal]

I think the title of the thread is enough clear.

I always develop Java in NetBeans and I'm accustomed to this.

I really hate Eclipse, is a very confusing IDE. If I can't install NetBeans IDE from Fedora 17 repositories I have three options:

• Install Oracle JDK and NetBeans from their own website.

• Install Eclipse and learn it.

• Change the distribution.

I'm a little dissapointed with Fedora 17, is truly stable, but the two things I need to work don't runs good or is not in the repositories .

[jpollard]

NetBeans is owned by Oracle, I believe. And Oracle wants you to get their software from them.

It allows you to be tracked and identified in case they want to sue you.

[RupertPupkin]

Apparently the official NetBeans IDE package for Fedora was retired after version 6.9 due to the package maintainer giving up on it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706688#c4
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb...b2917f894e74c1

There is an unofficial NetBeans IDE package for F17 from the koji Fedora repos: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...buildID=273112
It's at version 7.0.1, which of course is a little behind the current 7.1.2 version.

That said, I don't see how downloading the latest NetBeans from the netbeans.org site is such a big deal. It ain't rocket surgery.

[marko]

If netbeans isn't in the official repos then what is this?:

[user@host ~]$ yum search netbeans

netbeans-javaparser.noarch : NetBeans Java Parser
netbeans-platform.x86_64 : NetBeans Platform
netbeans-platform-harness.x86_64 : Build harness for NetBeans Platform
netbeans-platform-javadoc.noarch : Javadoc documentation for NetBeans Platform
netbeans-resolver.noarch : Resolver subproject of xml-commons patched for NetBeans
netbeans-svnclientadapter.noarch : Subversion Client Adapter

[user@host ~] $ yum list netbeans*

netbeans-javaparser.noarch 7.0.1-2.fc17 fedora
netbeans-platform.x86_64 1:7.0.1-5.fc17 fedora
netbeans-platform-harness.x86_64 1:7.0.1-5.fc17 fedora
netbeans-platform-javadoc.noarch 1:7.0.1-5.fc17 fedora
netbeans-resolver.noarch 6.7.1-4.fc17 fedora
netbeans-svnclientadapter.noarch 6.7.1-4.fc17 fedora

It is a weird mix of versions, 7.0.1 and 6.7.1

[jpollard]

I lean toward "broken" actually.

From the FAQ:

Yes, you can redistribute modified versions of NetBeans for free or even sell it.

However, if you modify NetBeans source code files, you must make these changes available to the NetBeans community and satisfy the other terms of the CDDL.
...
Applies to NetBeans IDE 5.5 and later

Which makes it non-free and non-GPL compatible.

[elias12]

Please read here: http://wiki.netbeans.org/Category:Fedora

[jpollard]

And since Fedora 14, Oracle has waged (and lost) a major lawsuit over Java.

Can you afford to roll the dice?

[marko]

I will say I've used both the Fedora repo rpm netbeans and the tarball version from oracle. I've always had better luck just going with the tarball one. Currently I'm using the 7.2 beta netbeans

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by elias12

Please read here: http://wiki.netbeans.org/Category:Fedora

Read the top of this page: http://wiki.netbeans.org/Category:Fedora:HowTo

Important: NetBeans 7.0 or newer NetBeans packages will not be a part Fedora repositories anymore

Originally Posted by marko

If netbeans isn't in the official repos then what is this?:

Notice that none of those packages contain the NetBeans IDE. The netbeans-platform package, for example, is just an add-on for developing Swing applications. F16 had the final netbeans-ide package for Fedora, and it was the 6.9 version.

[thund3rstruck]

Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

There is an unofficial NetBeans IDE package for F17 from the koji Fedora repos: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...buildID=273112

How does one go about adding this repository? I just upgraded to Fedora 17 and now NetBeans v6.9 doesn't work and its not in the F17 repositories. Netbeans is a core application and my computer is simply useless without it.

--EDIT--

Nevermind... getting Netbeans V7.1.2 on F17 is as simple as downloading the installer.sh script from Sun's website and running it.

Damn... Linux has come a long way in 15 years!

[RupertPupkin]

Originally Posted by thund3rstruck

getting Netbeans V7.1.2 on F17 is as simple as downloading the installer.sh script from Sun's website and running it.

Yep, I think Netbeans is one of those programs (like TeX Live) that you're better off going outside the Fedora package repos to install. It's simple to install, you can always get the latest version right away, and it allows more flexibility by not forcing you to install a bunch of dependencies that you may not need.