How to turn off my computer with FC 17 install?

[alexlausk]

I have been using RedHat since RH6.2 but Its embrassing that I have ask the following question.

How can I turn off my computer from Gnome 3? It only offers suspend and no other option. I do not want to do shutdown -h now from command line.

[John the train]

Asuming there havent been any major changes to Gnome 3 between F16 and F17 holding down ' Alt ' when clicking on ' suspend ' should bring up the traditional shutdown/restart etc. menu. There are various additions/modifications you can make to GGnome 3, including one to give the traditional shutdown button - see the thread ' Gnome 3 - Tweaks and solutions '.

[alexlausk]

Thanks John the Train. I stopped using Fedora since FC 15. I am just giving it a try see if things have changed. I once read an article that Gnome is now gearing toward novice users instead of power users. I guess that that aurthor was right.

[Mariusz W]

Originally Posted by alexlausk

Thanks John the Train. I stopped using Fedora since FC 15. I am just giving it a try see if things have changed. I once read an article that Gnome is now gearing toward novice users instead of power users. I guess that that aurthor was right.

The first time you encounter this apparent absence of the shutdown option it is certainly puzzling. Once you know that you have to press the Alt key -- it's fine. I actually understand the reationale for it in the times when suspending becomes a lot more common that shutting down.

Saying, however, that GNOME is now gearing towards novice users is not accurate, to say it mildly: GNOME was never supposed as far as I know to be a power user desktop environment, it was always an all around environement and in the past, when hardware and memory were imposing serious limitations to performance of any system, a power user was even less likely to use GNOME or KDE due to their 'bloat'.

Much more accurate would be perhaps saying that GNOME is gearing towards mobile computing devices with their inherently small screens.

[alexlausk]

It is just my personal feeling with Gnome 3. I hate Windows; therefore, I had been using RedHat since 6.2. I can completely ditch Windows since Readhat 9 until FC15.

My personal opinion is Gnome 3 just change for the purpose of change. I think some changes can be gradually implemented instead of a overnight complete overhaul. It drives someone like me to move away from Linux as my desktop. I still use Linux server where Gnome has no place.

Another similiar event was the sudden change in the Firewire stack. I understand the old one is a serious security breach but implementing a non-functioning Firewire stack did not help neither.

Its already off topic so I am going to stop.

[nsnbm]

Hello alexausk,

I also am unable to run gnome3 any more because it's too demanding in what it requires of my relatively elderly hardware. There's gnome fallback mode, but there are so many other desktop environments which are just as capable I think with some tweaking ... environments like xfce, lxde run happily where gnome3 wont I found. However, I have reduced myself to a simple window manager which does the job and there are enough of those to play around with for ever it seems. Ben.

[agreenwo]

su -c "init 0"

This avoids all the bugs introduced by reinventing the wheel.