Weird.. F16 survives 'sudo yum remove gnome*'

[NikolaZ]

I am new to Linux so I've installed all desktop environments on F16 to give them a spin, following instructions on Missing Box studio.
After a while I settled on KDE, so I tried to remove the other DEs completely.
However, I noticed I still have a bunch of gnome packages on my computer.


'sudo yum remove gnome*'

More knowledgeable people warned it will leave me with a broken system because Gnome is too deeply intertwined with Fedora. However, I want to reinstall soon anyway, so....

The executed code took several hundred MBs off my system, mostly Gnome packages, along with a bunch of libraries and some dependencies that had KDE in the name. However, surprise, surprise, everything still works, so far.

Actually, it works better. Default RAM usage is down by 60 MB, and finally all the apps behave according to settings I specified in 'System Settings'.

but

Just thought it might be interesting.

[Mariusz W]

Originally Posted by NikolaZ

Actually, it works better. Default RAM usage is down by 60 MB

This is a Pyrrhean victory: we live in times when even the most modest web browser with just a few tabs open will consume more RAM than all your desktop environment apps combined.

[NikolaZ]

I see what you mean. Actually, my real problem was that sometimes after logging in or resuming from suspend, I would end up in a weird desktop environment with a strange background and the only thing that was active was gnome settings manager. No menus, no links, no virtual desktop, nothing.
I couldn't even shut down the computer. The only solution was to unplug the laptop and remove the batteries.

That same screen would also flicker on briefly every time I shut down the computer.

I figured some remains of other DEs where messing with the current system, so I tried to remove them all.

[Mariusz W]

I have to say I didn't have any problems with suspend/resume executed in Gnome shell on any of the computers I use -- I have Fedora with Gnome shell on a very modest netbook with low specs, and on a very fast i7 notebook with lots of RAM.

My preferred desktop environments are however fluxbox and Openbox -- not Gnome (I used Gnome on a regular basis from 2001 until a year and a half ago and, at various times, I was also using KDE, Xfce, LXDE and Enlightment, plus a few more exotic ones, but the only ones that I was swayed to truly commit myself were fluxbox and Openbox -- very fast, extremely configurable, and extremely efficient -- when you make an effort to use the power of keyboard shortcuts).

[NikolaZ]

It wasn't a full gnome shell, it was just an empty background, and the right-click button would open settings manager. That was it. There was no panel, hot corner, meta key didn't work.

I've never tried fluxbox, don't even know what it is. Are there any user guides/wikis that explain how to use it?
Openbox was a bit too empty for my taste, i am a newb after all