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Old 29th May 2012, 11:04 PM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

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my only issue is grub2 throwing a missing files error when booting, I'm guessing its related to a grub2 theme as my machine still boots fine.
If it's the same issue the solution is in DBelton's post #7, and the following posts. Kind of hidden in this thread:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280124
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Old 29th May 2012, 11:23 PM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

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I forgot to mention: I also have kernel 3.3.7-1.fc17 installed, but it doesn't show up in grub menu.

It looks like it's gonna be a fresh install on the weekend for me. I've already grabbed the image.
Terrible mess.
No need to reinstall (though I do agree that f16->f17 upgrade is indeed a mess.).

1. Reboot the machine, and press alt/space/esc just-before-fedora starts to bring up the grub menu.
2. Select the f16 entry and press 'e', it'll give you an option to edit the grub command line.
3. Search/replace f16 and replace it with f17 in all the lines.
4. Ctrl-X to reboot.
5. This should give you a working OS.
6. Assuming that the F17 is running OK, type the following (as root, use at your own risk):
$ rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | grep fc16 | sort
<list of f16 kernels)
7. Now either remove the fc16 kernel manually or go auto (use at your own risk, may eat babies)
$ yum remove $(rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | grep fc16)
8. Once done, rebuild the grub2 menu.
$ grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
9. Reboot (may give you file not found errors, but they won't prevent you from successfully booting into f17)

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Old 30th May 2012, 12:08 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Thanks, but the kernel is not the only issue I'm having. I guess I'd rather be on the safe side.
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:08 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

The problem lies in "upgrading" via overwriting existing files. I keep the same /home and just delete all config files except .mozilla and .thunderbird and just format /(root) doing a clean install. It took me all of 7 min to install F17 from usb flash drive. Why people insist on "upgrading" is beyond me, when most of the time it presents problems.

Using my method, I keep my /home and can install any distro no problems. But hey, what do I know, it only works everytime.
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:15 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

You'd think that since fedora core 16 uses grub2 and makes grub(1) imf*kingpossible to install, it would at least use the --grub2 flag to grubby when writing back the grub configuration. Instead, I get:

Code:
Preparing system to boot into installer
DEBUG /sbin/grubby --title="Upgrade to Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle)" --remove-kernel="/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz" --add-kernel="/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz" --initrd="/boot/upgrade/initrd.img" --args="preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade  ks=hd:UUID=13e1b37e-56d4-4637-9515-cd9c1a6e7319:/upgrade/ks.cfg stage2=http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/releases/17/Fedora/x86_64/os/LiveOS/squashfs.img"
sh: /sbin/grub: No such file or directory
/bin/echo: write error: Broken pipe
All finished. The upgrade will begin when you reboot.
Uhhuh. SuUUUuure it will.

Now, after running with the --grub2 flag, I'll get to see if the upgrade actually works...
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:38 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Well it took me a couple hours but I finally resolved all the yum issues and got everything else working properly. But it was very tedious and a real pain in the butt, so I can only imagine how frustrating it would be to a lot of people. I hate to say it but F17 gets my vote for worst Fedora upgrade ever; it was just a huge mess. My upgrade from F15 to F16 was smooth as can be, so this experience was fairly disappointing.
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:55 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Sonoran and Gilboa,

Thanks. I just upgraded my netbook and encountered the grub2 error. Both of you helped provide a solution that kept me from taking more radical steps. The grub2-install /dev/sdX and then running grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg (along with deleting the F16 kernels) was very easy. I had done Gilboa's method first and then followed Sonoran's link to the other thread. Performing the grub2-install eliminated the error message that Gilboa's method left.

Thanks guys. A definite
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Old 30th May 2012, 12:59 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

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I forgot to mention: I also have kernel 3.3.7-1.fc17 installed, but it doesn't show up in grub menu.

It looks like it's gonna be a fresh install on the weekend for me. I've already grabbed the image.
Terrible mess.
Yea.. That issue is shown in the F17 common bugs. In my opinion, that bug should NEVER had been allowed to get into a release version

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Kernel from previous release may still be used after upgrade, prevents clean shutdown

link to this item - Bugzilla: #820351

Starting during the Fedora 17 development cycle, the Fedora kernel team has started keeping the kernel package on all currently-supported releases as closely synchronized as possible. One unfortunate consequence of this policy is that it is now much more likely than previously that, on upgrading from one Fedora release to the next, no kernel from the new release will be installed. This will very likely be the case if you use the Fedora 17 DVD to upgrade from an updated Fedora 16 installation without enabling the updates online repository during the upgrade.

Unfortunately, due to the /usr move feature of Fedora 17, if you boot a Fedora 17 system using a kernel that was installed while the system was still running Fedora 16, it will be unable to shut down cleanly. You must use a kernel installed after the upgrade to Fedora 17 in order to shut down cleanly.

To avoid this problem we recommend enabling the updates repository when upgrading to Fedora 17 whenever possible. If you do an upgrade to Fedora 17 and find the system will not shut down cleanly, check with uname -r whether the kernel you are using is from a previous release. If so, try to install and use a Fedora 17 kernel from the online repositories.
Also, in case anyone needs it, there are a few extra steps if you are upgrading to F17 from a previous release due to the /usr move. The extra steps are shown here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgra...-.3E_Fedora_17

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Old 30th May 2012, 01:28 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Maybe you guys mistakenly dowloaded the vegan surprise version ;p
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Old 30th May 2012, 02:03 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

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Maybe you guys mistakenly dowloaded the vegan surprise version ;p

Ummm hummmm.. The "Beefy Miracle" is very vegan unfriendly.

I do agree that F17 is one of the worst versions if you try to upgrade from a previous version.

Clean installs are fairly trouble-free, though.
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Old 30th May 2012, 02:10 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

I upgraded using yum a couple of weeks ago. It's a pity the issues I faced then still exist.
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Old 30th May 2012, 04:27 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Well, Nearly same issue here.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...54#post1579554

Now I am left with only dracut command promt at the begining.
Happens for all kernels now as I have performed
Code:
dracut --force --add convertfs
in the last working kernel, i.e. 3.6.3.

Any suggestions to recover except a fresh install ?


before dracut shell comes these are the precise errors showing

ata_id[276]: unable to open '$devnoode'
ata_id[275]: unable to open '$devnoode'

dracut warning: unable to process initqueue

dracut warning: /dev/disk/by_uuid/5112ebb7-111d-417b-ae80-45da150e8840 does not exist

Dropping to debug shell.

dracut:/#

Last edited by dhirajhazra; 30th May 2012 at 05:13 AM. Reason: New input
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Old 30th May 2012, 09:20 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

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Yea.. That issue is shown in the F17 common bugs. In my opinion, that bug should NEVER had been allowed to get into a release version



Also, in case anyone needs it, there are a few extra steps if you are upgrading to F17 from a previous release due to the /usr move. The extra steps are shown here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgra...-.3E_Fedora_17
Thanks for the info, mate!

Could anyone help out a Fedora-newbie and link me to the instructions of installing Fedora 17 kernel from online repositories?

So far that's the only problem I can tell my system has since last night's F16 to F17 preupgrade.
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Old 30th May 2012, 09:45 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

The F17 kernel is there, but due to a bug within Anaconda the F16 kernel (that has the same version number) is used instead.
Please follow my instruction in comment #17 [1].

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[1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...1&postcount=17
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Old 30th May 2012, 09:48 AM
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Re: F17: Worst upgrade ever?

Okay, I'll give it a shot, but I hope it doesn't "eat babies"
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