Fedora 17 RC4 declared GOLD ==> RC4 = FINAL

[AdamW]

yes, that's the point of the freeze.

errorxp: firewalld isn't 'scrapped'. We just delayed switching it in as the default firewall until (at least) the GUI config tool is written. It's currently planned for F18.

[weitjong]

Fedora 17 RC4 declared GOLD ==> RC4 = FINAL. Is is really the case? My F17 VM received quite a few updates from the fedora "updates" repo over the weekend. Two kernel updates in a row from yesterday to today. The repolist shows there are currently 1964 packages in the "updates" repo for x86_64 arch. It it is indeed final then I guess I have to enable the "updates" repo when installing F17 into my main rig later .

[lmcogs]

Should I remove firewalld?

[nonamedotc]

Originally Posted by weitjong

Fedora 17 RC4 declared GOLD ==> RC4 = FINAL. Is is really the case? My F17 VM received quite a few updates from the fedora "updates" repo over the weekend. Two kernel updates in a row from yesterday to today. The repolist shows there are currently 1964 packages in the "updates" repo for x86_64 arch. It it is indeed final then I guess I have to enable the "updates" repo when installing F17 into my main rig later .

Good question! Mine showed a few updates too (without updates-testing). But, is it necessary to remake the iso - one could simply connect to internet while installing and install the 'latest' system - no?

[MauserM98]

Jupiter Broadcasting has reviewed Fedora 17.

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/

[weitjong]

Originally Posted by nonamedotc

one could simply connect to internet while installing and install the 'latest' system - no?

This is exactly what I am suggesting in my bottom line.

But it kinda like saying Fedora has software fixes or updates, if you like, even on the first day of its launch. No?


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[DBelton]

That is exactly what it is.

Fedora freezes the updates prior to release to give time to build the media and test it. However, updates just don't stop happening during that build/test period, they just don't get into the the release media. The only way that they could possibly have a release without updates/fixes on the first day would be to stop all development instead of only freezing the updates. Not a good option in my opinion.

I would rather have the updates, even if there are quite a few on the first day of a release. (it's probably a few weeks worth of updates since only blocker bugs were pushed into the stable repos since sometime around the first week of May while they were testing the release candidates and deciding on a release)

Or would you rather they pushed all of the updates (some untested) into the stable repo, and built the media right before the release without testing it?

[weitjong]

DBelton, thanks for your explanation on the rationale behind. I agree with you on most of the points. I reckon the packages that go into the "updates" repo must have passed certain quality assurance test or they would be still in testing repo. So, it is still safe to install with the "updates" repo enabled. Having said that, I think I will check the final checksum of F17 iso when it finally release before installing. The wait is excruciating .

[nonamedotc]

Originally Posted by weitjong

The wait is excruciating .

Just one more day!

[zuchov]

Right on the spot mate; updates FIRST! One more day it is...

Originally Posted by DBelton

That is exactly what it is.

Fedora freezes the updates prior to release to give time to build the media and test it. However, updates just don't stop happening during that build/test period, they just don't get into the the release media. The only way that they could possibly have a release without updates/fixes on the first day would be to stop all development instead of only freezing the updates. Not a good option in my opinion.

I would rather have the updates, even if there are quite a few on the first day of a release. (it's probably a few weeks worth of updates since only blocker bugs were pushed into the stable repos since sometime around the first week of May while they were testing the release candidates and deciding on a release)

Or would you rather they pushed all of the updates (some untested) into the stable repo, and built the media right before the release without testing it?

[zerobug]

Originally Posted by zuchov

Right on the spot mate; updates FIRST! One more day it is...

Does someone know: will it be released overnight?

[nonamedotc]

Time of Release
Historically Test and General Availability releases happen at 10:00am Eastern US Time on a Tuesday, which is either 1500UTC or 1400UTC depending on daylight savings in the United States. See Releases/Schedule for more information about scheduling methodology and schedule milestone definitions

From the schedule page on Fedora wiki

[stevea]

Originally Posted by lmcogs

Should I remove firewalld?

Yes. Without the gui config tool you can only set temporary configs in firewalld.
It's probably best to;

yum erase firewalld
yum install iptables system-config-firewall.
systemctl enable iptables.service

[tuxor]

Indeed the RC4 isos are now available on

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pu...x/releases/17/

and thus seem to be the official release ISOs. Official release is in appx 90 minutes ;-)

[rwright]

Fedora 17 is indeed released! Check home page, I'm burning to disk at this moment.