Fedora Release to slip by one week

[nonamedotc]

Yes! Sigh!

Release will be on May 29 now.

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Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 17:09:31)
5 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:09:45)
2 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:09:45)

(821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 17:10:47)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink, 17:10:50)
Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:10:53)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=585074 (spot, 17:14:32)
packaging the C code outside of firstboot seems like the best solution for now (tflink, 17:21:19)
ACTION: spot to get patch packaged, get ajax to sanity check patch (rbergeron, 17:23:02)
ACTION: tflink to coordinate with mgracik re: firstboot changes (rbergeron, 17:27:40)

(822123) Graphical grub is unusable slow (tflink, 17:28:11)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822123 (tflink, 17:28:11)
Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:28:11)
workedaround, just need to wait for RC2 (rbergeron, 17:31:00)
anaconda-17.28-1 should workaround this to the point where it's no longer a blocker (tflink, 17:31:01)

(794927) PackageKit cannot import GPG keys - Fatal error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk _5ftransaction_5ferror.Code14: Invalid input passed to daemon: char '<' in text! (tflink, 17:31:54)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794927 (tflink, 17:31:58)
Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:32:01)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998 (nirik, 17:36:26)
AGREED: - 794927 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 17:42:27)

(748320) automatically import default GPG keys (tflink, 17:42:37)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748320 (tflink, 17:42:37)
Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:42:39)
AGREED: - 748320 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't directly hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and we've been shipping like this for a while now - rejected as blocker. However, this would improve the user experience and a tested fix would be considered for inclusion past code freeze (tflink, 17:47:12)

(822430) PK is stuck after installing a single update (tflink, 17:47:20)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822430 (tflink, 17:47:20)
Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:47:20)
no kittens will be harmed during the triage and fix for this bug ... if all goes according to plan (tflink, 18:03:59)
AGREED: - 822430 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't completely hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and has a simple workaround - install all of the updates. Thus it can be fixed by an update and does not need to block release. However, it does cause problems with certain update use cases and would be considered for freeze break. Separate patches and/or builds for the different PK issues are requested so that they can be evaluated in (tflink, 18:04:12)

(820478) [ta_IN] Without autohinting tamil strings rendering is badly broken. (tflink, 18:04:28)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820478 (tflink, 18:04:31)
Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:04:34)
AGREED: - 820478 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't directly hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria but it does impact readability and user experience for installations in Tamil. The fix is built and tested, will accept if more composes are done. (tflink, 18:09:16)

(815473) Preugprade from F16 to F17 Beta doesn't successfully set the boot menu default (tflink, 18:09:32)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815473 (tflink, 18:09:35)
Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:09:37)

(815473) Preugprade from F16 to F17 Beta doesn't successfully set the boot menu default (tflink, 18:17:06)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815473 (tflink, 18:17:09)
Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:17:11)
AGREED: - 815473 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't affect the ability of preupgrade to actually work and thus, doesn't violate the Fedora 17 release criteria. The workaround is relatively painless but a new preupgrade build is very much desired as the issue has been fixed in git (tflink, 18:21:02)

(822495) Fedora 17 DVD build does not contain device-mapper-multipath (tflink, 18:22:48)
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822495 (tflink, 18:22:51)
Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:22:53)
AGREED: - 822495 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 17 final release criterion "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any network-attached storage devices (e.g. iSCSI, FCoE, Fibre Channel)" and multipath is very much the norm for higer end networked storage (tflink, 18:26:20)

Go or No Go? (rbergeron, 18:32:23)
Test matrices are pretty much covered, except SCSI, which we are always missing. (rbergeron, 18:32:51)
4 blockers - 2 previously accepted, 2 new (rbergeron, 18:36:12)
some desktop tests, including KDE, are missing, we need an RC2 spin. (rbergeron, 18:36:52)
AGREED: F17 Final (from RC1) is a no-go; we slip one week, for a GA of May 29. (rbergeron, 18:38:10)
Release readiness meeting in this channel in 20 minutes (rbergeron, 18:39:38)
ACTION: rbergeron to send out slip mail with a sad, unbeefy face (rbergeron, 18:40:02)
Next Go/No-Go will be 2012-05-24, same bat time, same bat channel (17:00 UTC, 13:00 eastern, 10:00 pacific) (rbergeron, 18:45:40)


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Link to the full minutes of the meeting - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fed...-17-17.03.html

[Dan]

Better late than broken.

[nonamedotc]

Now that I think about it - very true words! I guess it's just that I am eager to install Final on my main (work) system!

[Wayne]

This has happened for how many versions now? I think folks should be used to waiting another week till they sort out last minute buglets.

[mkruger]

Thanks for the update. I'll swing back by in about 6 months.

Fedora 16 seems to be working pretty well for me right now.

[hadrons123]

I wonder how ubuntu is always on time considering there are more people working on fedora than ubuntu. Bit ironic....

[Dan]

Not all that surprising in that most of the new cutting edge stuff debuts in fedora, and Ubuntu adopts after the first arrays of bugs have been squished.

[nonamedotc]

Originally Posted by Dan

.... Ubuntu adopts after the first arrays of bugs have been squished.

And even then, look at how 12.04 turned out! Over here, no one I know has a proper install which works without missing icons or taking a "loooooong" time to just boot, etc. At least in my experience, this is the worst I have had since I started with Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy heron).

That's beside the point here though, I guess!

[Wayne]

Kubuntu 12.04 works just fine

[hadrons123]

ubuntu 12.04 worked fine for me too.Tried for a couple of days, but couldn't stand it.

[glennzo]

What difference does it make if it slips by a week or a month? If you're running Fedora 17 beta and have been keeping the system updated, then for all intents and purposes you're running Fedora 17 final.

[bigflopper2]

Originally Posted by glennzo

What difference does it make if it slips by a week or a month? If you're running Fedora 17 beta and have been keeping the system updated, then for all intents and purposes you're running Fedora 17 final.

so true, no hurry at all to release the final

[aleph]

Originally Posted by Dan

Better late than broken.

I see you are being a little bit un-Fedora. Would you like some Inquisition?

[glennzo]

Originally Posted by aleph

I see you are being a little bit un-Fedora. Would you like some Inquisition?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition Give him a shrubbery.

[Evil_Bert]

And then give him ...

... another shrubbery! When you have found the shrubbery, place the shrubbery here, beside this shrubbery ... only slightly higher, so you get a two-level effect with a path through the middle.








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