Gnome3.6 Features - Page 2

deanej · #16 4th May 2012, 08:00 PM

I think it's very telling that all the "relevant art" on the wiki is of smart phones and tablets. No desktops.

With many of these we can just migrate. But even using Cinnamon and other applications won't save you from the new lock screen!

***DBelton*** · #17 4th May 2012, 09:59 PM

What is really telling is this:

I was browsing over on Redhat's bugzilla, and decided to list the packages bugs were filed against..

Code:

gnome-shell       666	   2.48%

Noticed that Gnome-shell has 666 bugs? hmmmmmm.... coincidence or a nasty foretelling of doom?

bigflopper2 · #18 4th May 2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DBelton

What is really telling is this:

I was browsing over on Redhat's bugzilla, and decided to list the packages bugs were filed against..

Code:

gnome-shell       666	   2.48%

Noticed that Gnome-shell has 666 bugs? hmmmmmm.... coincidence or a nasty foretelling of doom?

put the gnome-developers out there

TK492 · #19 4th May 2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigflopper2

put the gnome-developers out there

Haha that made my day!

Hewjr100 · #20 4th May 2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Planet Wipe-&-Swipe.

And all along I thought it was planet wipe & Flush

Henry

#21 5th May 2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DBelton

What is really telling is this:

I was browsing over on Redhat's bugzilla, and decided to list the packages bugs were filed against..

Code:

gnome-shell       666	   2.48%

Noticed that Gnome-shell has 666 bugs? hmmmmmm.... coincidence or a nasty foretelling of doom?

Gnome Devs stuffed up big time when they released Gnome3 to early. they should of continued with the 2.xx series till Gnome3 was atleast usable. but yes it does spell Dooms day for Gnome sadly enough. but hold on, as one Gnome developer i wont name will say " i havent seen any Bugs reported against Gnome3 at all " i saw one of them say something along those lines over on he Phoronix forum, just goes to show you they are start? to turn a blind eye to the Bugs out there and create new ones by releasing New features instead of fixing up there mess.

with all these Bugs in Gnome3 so far it makes me wonder, will RHEL7 go with Gnome3 or stick to using the last version of Gnome2

hmm i just searched in Redhat Bugzilla for Gnome-shell opened bugs and found 1937 bugs found. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist....nt=gnome-shell

TK492 · #22 5th May 2012, 12:34 AM

Just a wild guess, the GNOME team probably felt rushed to try to come out with something new and "modern" before Windows 8 came out?

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with all these Bugs in Gnome3 so far it makes me wonder, will RHEL7 go with Gnome3 or stick to using the last version of Gnome2

I've been asking myself the same question, and I'm also eager to learn what RHEL will settle on. The problem is, customers will have to upgrade their hardware in order to get the full GNOME 3 "experience". Or else fallback mode will be in order and well... that just sucks even more imo.

ElderSnake · #23 5th May 2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TK492

Just a wild guess, the GNOME team probably felt rushed to try to come out with something new and "modern" before Windows 8 came out?

Having used both I'd much rather use Gnome-Shell with extensions over Microsoft's Metro any day.

TK492 · #24 5th May 2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ElderSnake

Having used both I'd much rather use Gnome-Shell with extensions over Microsoft's Metro any day.

Oh, of course! My brief experience with Windows 8 was nothing more than a "WTF" fest. Moment after moment, I was left scratching my head wonder how to do the most basic things. The worst was having to click on 3 different settings buttons (each within the other) before actually getting to the settings panel. Big mistake trying to make one single OS to cover both desktop and tablet use. Unfortunately, while both Apple and Microsoft are moving in that direction, GNOME felt the need to do the same. Thankfully we have the choice to use other DEs.

But as much as GNOME 3 did it wrong, Metro UI does it worst.

***bob*** · #25 5th May 2012, 01:57 AM

Okay guys, I'm going to chip in my not-asked-for two cents.

I can remember booting Fedora and going "OH WOW"...how the heck do I do anything? Then firing up KDE and ...same thing; followed by Elive and E16-E17. Same thing with blackbox, windowmaker, etc., etc.

All of them had a WTF moment, as did Gnome3. But, if you work with it instead of simply despising it, it might be just great for you. Frankly, I've tweaked Gnome3 to the point that Gnome2 is a backwards step for me.

So guys, my point is this: We worked through the learning process of linux to find something special. It's not for everyone, but it sure is great for many. Same thing for Gnome3 and beyond. We all have tons of options. We have MATE and Cinnamon if we want Gnome-retro, KDE, XFCE or whatever if we want the distro and not the DE. Gnome3x will make many happy and it's a positive step forward. Let's not pan it if we don't love it.

#26 5th May 2012, 02:11 AM

just need to read on the fedora-devel or fedora-test lists to see what Gnome3 lacks . im pretty sure AdamW could spell those things out in this thread.

Gnome3 is a Great DE if you dont wanna fart around custimizing your own DE. but if you require something Gnome3 hasnt got, well its useless. Extensions are great when there working for you but when there not, whats the point of Gnome3.

AFAICT, its all XFCE an KDE and window managers now. Gnome has met Dooms day

***bob*** · #27 5th May 2012, 02:17 AM

Oh come on now, Greg. We're FEDORA! We constantly move forward, even if it's a bork at times. Want Good, Stable, Useable, etc. ? That's Debian. At Fedora, we push the envelope even if it's anthrax inside.

There are a ton of users who enjoy Gnome3 and it's just fine for their purposes. Fortunately, there are a bunch of alternatives if you need something that's better configured for your needs.

All I'm saying is that if it's not good for you, work with MATE, Cinnamon or whatever else approximates Gnome2 or go to another DE or even another distro or...heaven forbid...another OS! It's all options and we've got 'em.

#28 5th May 2012, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bob

Oh come on now, Greg. We're FEDORA! We constantly move forward, even if it's a bork at times. Want Good, Stable, Useable, etc. ? That's Debian. At Fedora, we push the envelope even if it's anthrax inside.

There are a ton of users who enjoy Gnome3 and it's just fine for their purposes. Fortunately, there are a bunch of alternatives if you need something that's better configured for your needs.

All I'm saying is that if it's not good for you, work with MATE, Cinnamon or whatever else approximates Gnome2 or go to another DE or even another distro or...heaven forbid...another OS! It's all options and we've got 'em.

sadly, i dont think Cinnamon is perfect atm. maybe F18/3.6 will make me enjoy it again. most of those " ton " of users that enjoy Gnome3 come from Ubuntu which i could understand. i loathe Unity, it has its design flaws. but so does Gnome-shell. i know its Fedora but its still no excuse IMO. the fact is that Gnome-shell was released far to early to the public without giving it more thought and more progress.

***bob*** · #29 5th May 2012, 02:30 AM

Okay, we'd have loved it Perfect From The Start, but that's not how it happened. We're not junking it, we're not going backward, but hopefully moving forward in the right direction.

#30 5th May 2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bob

Okay, we'd have loved it Perfect From The Start, but that's not how it happened. We're not junking it, we're not going backward, but hopefully moving forward in the right direction .

perhaps it will be when Gnome4 comes out

but i cant see Gnome3 being all that usable till maybe 3.16 ( assuming it survives that long in the wild

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