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Old 26th February 2012, 01:19 PM
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Why you should work for free

i agreed, gr8 post! IMHO.

http://www.sean-johnson.com/2012/02/...work-for-free/

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Old 26th February 2012, 04:02 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

well... yeah... it's easy for me to shrug my shoulders and say, "that's the difference between a job and a career." But remember: if you can't spot the dumbest person at the table, then it's probably you.
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Old 26th February 2012, 10:40 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

Interesting "article".

It reminds me of a company I worked for once who took in a person that had been unemployed for long, this was beneficial to us since a gov institution paid most of his salary. It turned out he was lazy and didn't seem dedicated to learn or work and came hours late some days with excuses like "overslept", "missed the buss". Not only that, this guy was a bit odd. I was the one teaching him mostly (since I know my stuff) but he didn't really pay attention as was shown when he played with his phone in front of me the first day of work, like what the... (put that away or at least wait till I'm out) The dude even played with his phone when the boss walked by and ofc we had to let him go.

This guy got paid but had he not he would just end up with nothing gained. Working for free is probably not a good choice for everyone.

It can probably be a good way to learn a profession if you are really dedicated and got some talent. But its also a gamble and if your attitude is bad I probably would rather sit at home than trying.
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Old 27th February 2012, 04:38 AM
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Re: Why you should work for free

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Interesting "article".

It reminds me of a company I worked for once who took in a person that had been unemployed for long, this was beneficial to us since a gov institution paid most of his salary. It turned out he was lazy and didn't seem dedicated to learn or work and came hours late some days with excuses like "overslept", "missed the buss". Not only that, this guy was a bit odd.
You referring to me?

The guy was probably just looking for a job so he could keep his govt benefits and was looking to get canned at the first opportunity so he could go back home and kick up his feet while collecting a freebie handout.
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Old 27th February 2012, 07:01 AM
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Re: Why you should work for free

Cutesy anecdotes like this guy's aren't going to apply to most people; he was able to move to New York City and "landed a position as an account manager for a startup doing university marketing." I don't know this guy's history but looking at his website he talks about his father being a CEO and a consultant, so he appears to come from a privileged background.

In the old days "working for free" used to be called slavery, and I'm sure some employers would like to bring it back. This guy is an employer himself now, so no wonder he wants people to work for free! Some of what he writes sounds like the old ridiculous Horatio Alger stories from long ago. It's amazing that anyone nowadays still believes that sort of nonsense.

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Old 27th February 2012, 08:27 AM
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Re: Why you should work for free

i think work for money is very hard. if you work for free then you will have a happy mode, because it can enrich your life.
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Old 27th February 2012, 09:40 AM
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Re: Why you should work for free

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i think work for money is very hard. if you work for free then you will have a happy mode, because it can enrich your life.
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Old 27th February 2012, 10:01 AM
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i wonder if it was bad bee i lost count on how many accounts he/she would have here
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Old 27th February 2012, 01:23 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

less become real, more become imagine. sort like between..
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Old 27th February 2012, 04:28 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

I don't think the title " Why you should work for free" is entirely accurate in the context of this article. He was being paid by this company, or at least that's how I read it:

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Every day I’d put in my 10 hours at work, and at night I’d design. The first one never made it to the client. Or the second one. Or the third. Or the tenth. But I did get feedback each time so I could make it better.
However, he was doing the design work in his own time in order to gain experience. He was in a good position as he was allowed to submit designs for consideration and professional critique and if he got passed that point they could be submitted to the client, after all he was already working for the company submitting the designs as he said:

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I wasn’t being taken advantage of – I was capitalizing on an opportunity.
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When I saw the title I thought it was about doing charity work or doing something positive for a community or doing something you passionately believe in for the benefit of mankind (or other equally lofty ideals) but in the end, surprise, surprise it was about "capitalizing on an opportunity" and there is nothing new or inventive about that !
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Old 27th February 2012, 06:36 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

Not an attempt to jump the thread...

but is it possible to work without any gain: monetary, skill experience, life experience (good or bad)?
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Old 27th February 2012, 07:26 PM
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Not an attempt to jump the thread...

but is it possible to work without any gain: monetary, skill experience, life experience (good or bad)?
No. Any work at all will give expierence of some kind, and your three branches cover everything.
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Old 28th February 2012, 05:22 PM
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The guy was probably just looking for a job so he could keep his govt benefits and was looking to get canned at the first opportunity so he could go back home and kick up his feet while collecting a freebie handout.
I guess that is a likely reason, even tho he wasn't forced to come work for us as far as I know, he even was to an interview along with an other person and if he really didn't want the work he could have blown it there.

My theory is that he just didn't understand social codes or felt like this wasn't for him or had a hard time keeping focus or something. = O
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Old 28th February 2012, 05:43 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

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Interesting "article".

It reminds me of a company I worked for once who took in a person that had been unemployed for long, this was beneficial to us since a gov institution paid most of his salary. It turned out he was lazy and didn't seem dedicated to learn or work and came hours late some days with excuses like "overslept", "missed the buss". Not only that, this guy was a bit odd. I was the one teaching him mostly (since I know my stuff) but he didn't really pay attention as was shown when he played with his phone in front of me the first day of work, like what the... (put that away or at least wait till I'm out) The dude even played with his phone when the boss walked by and ofc we had to let him go.

This guy got paid but had he not he would just end up with nothing gained. Working for free is probably not a good choice for everyone.

It can probably be a good way to learn a profession if you are really dedicated and got some talent. But its also a gamble and if your attitude is bad I probably would rather sit at home than trying.

Poor guy. I've never bothered to explain a late morning... hell I've left sites at 3pm telling them, 'I've got a 300km drive in front of me and I going home for both supper and sex. Got a problem with that?'
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Old 28th February 2012, 06:22 PM
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Re: Why you should work for free

Lucky you. If I'd tried that, I would have heard ...

"Wow! No. Nothing at all. In fact, let me help. Here's something prettily pink that you can share with your significant other."
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