Experimental Beefy Miracle is served (Fedora 17 Alpha released)

[AdamW]

mmix: there is an Xfce version of the Alpha available. We do desktop, KDE, LXDE, Xfce for Alpha.

We honestly don't really do much to support VBox / VMware, that's mostly up to those vendors to support. As far as qemu/kvm/virt-manager goes, Alpha should pretty much run and work with the exception that if you run Shell on a VM configured to use the qxl graphics driver and the Spice remote protocol (which is default for F16 and F17 hosts), Shell will crash. A lot.

You can drop to the vesa or cirrus graphics drivers, drop to the VNC remote protocol, or stick with qxl/Spice but use a different desktop or GNOME fallback mode. Any of those combinations should be okay.

in other words FedoraProject dont Care for actual Bug report's if ones using either VBox / VMware aslong as there using Opensource stuff a bug report will be looked at?

[jpollard]

Originally Posted by tox

in other words FedoraProject dont Care for actual Bug report's if ones using either VBox / VMware aslong as there using Opensource stuff a bug report will be looked at?

It is hard to debug something when the source is not available to explain what the bug is about.

And it may be a bug in VBox or VMware that just hasn't been exercised before.

Originally Posted by jpollard

It is hard to debug something when the source is not available to explain what the bug is about.

And it may be a bug in VBox or VMware that just hasn't been exercised before.

ohh ok, thanks for explanation bro

[AdamW]

tox: basically, no-one who works on Fedora is involving in maintaining VMware or VirtualBox, and neither is packaged for Fedora. So we just don't know that code very well and we aren't in a good position to be able to fix issues with it. (edit: and obviously, we _can't_ know anything about the VMware source).

Sometimes bugs get sent up the chain to the VBox / VMware devs and they determine there's actually an underlying bug somewhere in Fedora and ping it back to us - that's absolutely fine and as long as it's filed with appropriate information, it'll get worked on and fixed. But generally, if you run into a problem running Fedora in a VBox / VMware VM, your *first* port of call should be Oracle / VMware, not Fedora.

further edit: obviously, if the bug in question is nothing to do with the virtual environment you're running in - say, I dunno, you have a VM up and running fine, and then, say, Firefox crashes due to what's clearly a bug in Firefox, not in the virtualization system you're using - then it's absolutely fine to go ahead and file a bug against Fedora's Firefox package there. All of this applies only to bugs which are definitely or probably actually related to the virtualization layer itself.