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Old 31st January 2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

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i dont test the pre alpha but just for the curiosity the btrfs is the default in the pre alpha??
since no one can actually test btrfs or a lack of enough testers to verify BTRFS is stable enough i wouldnt hold out to much hope that BTRFS will be default. plus AFAIK ext4 still is far better than BTRFS in some ways. BTRFS is far from being finished as a filesystem
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Old 31st January 2012, 04:21 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

Once brrfs is closer to being a finished filesystem, I would be willing to test it here. But, I'm not going to even install it until they get a workable filesystem check available.

Seems to me that should have been one of the first things they should have been working on. A new filesystem would have caused issues and had errors, seems like they would have worked on the filesystem check to correct those errors they had while developing the filesystem.
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Old 31st January 2012, 07:09 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

i just want to ask a little question if the btrfs isn't ready then why redhat dont say that they postpone it to the next release ?
what are they waiting for?
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Old 31st January 2012, 07:23 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

I feel the same way. It's getting close enough to the F17 deadline that it should be postponed in my opinion.

Even if they do manage to get it in for F17, I wouldn't use it except on my test boxes. My main systems would still be formatted ext4.

Some things, I can deal with running "not quite ready" applications, even on my main machines.. But not the system filesystem. Even if they get btrfs ready, I don't think it should be the default filesystem in F17.
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Old 31st January 2012, 10:28 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

i still thinbk they'll post tone it to F18
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Old 1st February 2012, 07:19 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it



I love what Leigh did to the signature!

Poor detox is always getting messed with
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Old 1st February 2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

Since F16 has a wifi bug, i'm going to dl F17, eventhough i didnt want BSE on my netbook.
The last few installs (read 1-2 weeks) i had btrfs on my netbook, didnt face any uncommon issues, other than the wifi thingy on f16, which i hope to get rid of with f17. Muh.
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Old 1st February 2012, 08:22 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

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I love what Leigh did to the signature!

Poor detox is always getting messed with
That's how he knows he is loved
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Old 1st February 2012, 09:33 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

might ad. i like it to.
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Old 1st February 2012, 11:34 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

4 hours later...
F17 nightly (Fedora-17-Nightly-20120130.09-x86_64-Live-lxde.iso) crashed on every attempt to format disk, or even better, on selection of btrfs to be used for format.
In other words, crash when selected the new partition shall become btrfs.
Even without any partition beeing anything else than xfs or ext4, it crashed at last when the format-progress-dialog should apprear.

Even better, allthough i love the bug reporting, it kinda sucks that its reporting f17 would not exists, while running f17 live media.
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Old 1st February 2012, 11:39 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

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4 hours later...
F17 nightly (Fedora-17-Nightly-20120130.09-x86_64-Live-lxde.iso) crashed on every attempt to format disk, or even better, on selection of btrfs to be used for format.
In other words, crash when selected the new partition shall become btrfs.
Even without any partition beeing anything else than xfs or ext4, it crashed at last when the format-progress-dialog should apprear.

Even better, allthough i love the bug reporting, it kinda sucks that its reporting f17 would not exists, while running f17 live media.
im surprised it even boots , cause it dont for me.
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Old 1st February 2012, 11:52 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

Well, once more i ran into catastrophy

After the first few boots, somewhat around 2 hours (been playing simon the sorcerer on the laptop) i got somewhat tired to restructure the disk of the netbook, since it had 3 primarys, but also 80gb of available space... but not in extended.

So to 'speed up', i wiped the disk and created unformated partitions, that at least this part is done already.
To boot into F17 with 3 existing btrfs partitions, wasnt an issue on my samsung, but to get past the partitioning.

EDIT
And i REALLY wonder, why is Anaconde such unstable again, there's no introduction of grub2 or systemd to the installer...
Or did i miss something?
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Old 2nd February 2012, 03:32 AM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

well it is PRE ALPHA
what do you expect

You might want to register on the dev mailing list
that way you can find out just what needs to be hacked
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Old 2nd February 2012, 03:51 AM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

no need to rtegister to the dev list, just bookmark it and read it every morning like i do
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Old 2nd February 2012, 02:04 PM
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Re: the f17 pre-alpha is available now,but I can't install it

I was missing something, udev is in change..
didnt watch the boot screen yesterday evening, as i was playing games on the other device
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