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Old 14th January 2012, 02:44 AM
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[ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

From Bill Nottingham ( redhat )

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...ry/161134.html

you also may wanna read the mailing list to see whose picked up what etc
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Old 14th January 2012, 03:24 AM
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

Hmmmm.

I can see that due to many of the packages I actually use being on that list, F16 may well be my last fedora.
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Old 14th January 2012, 03:30 AM
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

i think eventually Fedora will only have as many packages as RHEL does now. but i think perhaps a lot of people are just moving over to Mint. would be interesting to findout how many all up packages are in Fedora now
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It's not so much about the quantity of packages, as it is the usefulness of them, and that is determined on a user-by-user case-by-case basis.

When they start dropping away my GIMP and graphics packages ... I start re-assessing my distro of choice. It's pretty much a matter of productivity here.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

Wll there be anything left?
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

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It's not so much about the quantity of packages, as it is the usefulness of them, and that is determined on a user-by-user case-by-case basis.

When they start dropping away my GIMP and graphics packages ... I start re-assessing my distro of choice. It's pretty much a matter of productivity here.
i dont think they'll ever Drop the Gimp. someone will always maintain it till something better comes out.

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Wll there be anything left?
Fedora always goes through this with each release but i think lately ( i think in Kevin Koflers post ) says why many are orphaning packages.
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Old 14th January 2012, 04:17 AM
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i dont think they'll ever Drop the Gimp. someone will always maintain it till something better comes out.
Never underestimate the ability of smart people to make completely silly mistakes. These are the same folks who decided to drop the GIMP from the liveCD.

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Orphan GREYCstoration
Orphan gimpfx-foundry
Orphan gkrellm-volume
Orphan gnome-paint
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Never underestimate the ability of smart people to make completely silly mistakes. These are the same folks who decided to drop the GIMP from the liveCD.
hopefully someone picks those up.
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Dropping gWaei from F16 was enough to stop me from installing it.
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When they start dropping away my GIMP and graphics packages ... I start re-assessing my distro of choice.
Double Ditto!!

Where was GIMP on the list?

gimpfx-foundry should never have been created and has caused more problems than it has provided useful scripts. The problem is that they renamed the scripts, as entitled by the original script(s) author(s). When someone updated (or simply installed) a script later, using the author's original script name, a conflict occurred, and most of the time, a very non-obvious conflict for the average GIMP user. fx-foundy has been a nightmare for the GIMP community, due to them renaming the scripts.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

Want to keep those packages in repository? Time to train to become a maintainer.

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Never underestimate the ability of smart people to make completely silly mistakes. These are the same folks who decided to drop the GIMP from the liveCD.
have you tried Fedora Design Spin LiveCD? It does include Gimp. For the Desktop Live Media, the xz compression massively reduced the size of packages which should allow Gimp to be included. You can request that reintegration.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

Who do we have to 'retire' to get gnome3 added to the list ?

That list doesn't look too bad, and people should understand that maintaining the packages is a long-term commitment.

Fedora will still have vastly more packages than RHEL. People don't realize how limited RHEL without EPEL.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

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Want to keep those packages in repository? Time to train to become a maintainer.
If someone has those sorts of skills, that's a heckuva good suggestion.


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have you tried Fedora Design Spin LiveCD? It does include Gimp. For the Desktop Live Media, the xz compression massively reduced the size of packages which should allow Gimp to be included. You can request that reintegration.
Yes, I have. In fact, the install on my laptop was done with it.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

Losing perl-graphviz would not be wise, as it still sees plenty of use in the bioinformatics community...
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for F-17

avant-window has been orphaned again

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...ry/161219.html
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