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Old 9th December 2011, 03:06 AM
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Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

For laptops that use dual graphics, nVidia Optimus systems that have Intel HD Graphics and an nVidia GeForce with Fedora 16 (64-bit), is it okay to install the nVidia GeForce drivers?

I tried installing the drivers via these instructions:
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.co...ouveau-driver/

However, after updating the kernel to the newest one successfully and installing the nVidia GeForce drivers, Fedora no longer boots up to the login screen. Partway through the bootup process, the GUI will dissappear to be replaced by text before stalling. I pressed Alt-F2 to jump to a command prompt. I logged in and entered in 'startx' but X-windows and the Gnome GUI would not start. It said "fatal error, screen not found." As a Linux rookie, I didn't know what to do so I reinstalled Fedora 16 from the Live CD, reinstalled the nVidia GeForce drivers and I have the exact same problem.

Has anyone experienced this before?
Is it possible to use the nVidia GeForce video card on nVidia Optimus systems or must I only use the Intel HD Graphics and forget about trying to get the nVidia GeForce up and running for apps and games that require faster OpenGL then what the Intel HD Graphics can provide?

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Old 12th December 2011, 03:41 AM
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Fedora 16 with nVidia drivers on Optimus system

After a fresh install of Fedora 16, is it okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers on a system that has nVidia Optimus (dual graphics, Intel HD Graphics + nVidia GeForce)?

Since OpenGL performs extremely poorly with the Intel HD Graphics, I was hoping to install nVidia Geforce drivers so the GeForce discrete video can do all the graphics processing but when I tried to install using these instructions:
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.co...ouveau-driver/

Fedora 16 would stop loading my Gnome GUI on bootup. I pressed Alt-F2, went to a command prompt but still could not get a GUI with 'startx'. Is there a way to get the nVidia GeForce up at all on an Optimus system or should I resign myself to just using the Intel HD Graphics?

I will await advice before I attempt to reinstall Fedora 16.
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Old 12th December 2011, 04:36 AM
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

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Old 19th December 2011, 03:51 PM
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

When you installed Nvidia proprietary driver it installed own xorg libs, which don't play well with Intel card (actually, they don't at all), to fix it just uninstall kmod-nvidia - it should erase xorg libs as well. Aftre reboot everything should work like before. If you want to try with Nvidia hardware accel on Optimus you should follow this guide:
http://forums.if-not-true-then-false...opic,31.0.html (link was in post you pasted...).

About prenamenly using Nvidia: AFAIK Intel always will be main graphic card on system with Optimus.
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Old 19th December 2011, 05:39 PM
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

I have the GEforce withe the Optimus technology. With F15, I ran into a similar problem after trying to install nvidia's drivers. So in F16, I did not install anything new and stuck with the nouveau driver that ships with F16. The nvidia card has 1GB RAM of its own but is never used by the nouveau drivers. I am just happy if I have a functional system, because I don't play games on it.

However, I don't know what effect it is having on the system as a whole because I have occasional unexplained freezes (see the massive F16 freeze thread in this subforum). It could be due to the wireless or due to display problems. I haven't found out yet.

The Optimus technology is not there yet. At least in linux. But they are working on it. See these posts here:
https://launchpad.net/~hybrid-graphics-linux
Bumblebee (includes Fedora related development)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/bumble...=wall&filter=2
Ironhide (for Ubuntu. I think it is a fork of Bumblebee or vice versa)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ironhi...199105?sk=wall
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

Hello Mr Erdk, Ariel,

Thank you for taking the time to respond. After scouring messages boards and websites, to the best of my understanding, nVidia Optimus with Bumblebee is available for Ubuntu, Arch & Debian Linux but is not yet working with Fedora as of December 2011. Ironhide is designed for Ubuntu and does not work on Fedora.

There is an open letter to nVidia from a Fedora Linux user who has a laptop that has Intel HD Graphics as well as an nVidia GeForce with Optimus on his system. He apparently is trying to rally support for nVidia to support Optimus on Windows as well as Linux.
http://luke.asia/2011/open-letter-to-nvidia/

If there are any new developments with nVidia Optimus for Fedora, feel free to to add on to this thread.

Cheers,
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Old 21st December 2011, 05:48 PM
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

i wrote some days ago in another thread here... i really do not understand why there are devs who support the same distribution (ubuntu) with two different projects...i really wait for this project so i am "allowed" to use fedora with this notebook otherwise i am just "allowed" to use it as a desktop pc because of the battery drain...

if there is someone who trys to make bumblebee available on fedora - thanks a thousand times =)
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Re: Okay to install nVidia GeForce drivers for a PC with nVidia Optimus on F16?

As an otherwise happy owner of a Dell XPS 17, I too am disappointed in the lack of Fedora Optimus support. However, I at least found how to shut down the nvidia card by using a kernel module called acpi_call.

My BIOS has no option to disable the nvidia card, plus I dual-boot Win7 and want it available there, so a software toggle is great. In Linux, I can reduce power drain by roughly 40% (generally, the 'left' fan stays off rather than run constantly). /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state shows 2803 mA discharge rate and the Gnome Power Settings icon shows ~2.5 hours of battery with nvidia "on". Compare that to ~1900 mA / 4 hours of battery when "off", plus drastically reduced fan noise + wear & tear, life is better. FYI, Win7 reports more than 10hrs and with some kill-a-watt checks, I believe it is accurate.

Get, compile, and install acpi_call kernel module:

Code:
git clone https://github.com/mkottman/acpi_call
make
sudo make install
sudo depmod
sudo modprobe acpi_call
Grab the dellL702x.sh script (I named it 'optimus') to check the status, enable, or disable the nvidia card by writing complex commands to the /proc/ interface. Test by running "./optimus off"; fans should quiet down and if you unplug, note your battery discharge rate.

To automated loading the module on boot, I followed Fedora Persistent Kernel Modules Instructions and saved the following as /etc/sysconfig/modules/acpi_call.modules

Code:
#!/bin/sh

if [ ! -e /proc/acpi/call ]; then
   modprobe acpi_call
   [ -e /proc/acpi/call ] && echo acpi_call ready || echo acpi_call not ready
   /root/optimus off
fi
After reboot, check autoloading results via: sudo dmesg | less -p acpi_call

You'll need to recompile the acpi_call kernel module after installing kernel updates. Some basic steps and requirements were omitted above (e.g., compiler installation, chmod +x on scripts, etc).

I still load nouveau, gnome shell works, but have hang issues on suspend, reboot acts like poweroff. YMMV.

Hope this helps!
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