What about an Fedora 16 spin with Gnome 2?

[AndrewSerk]

Originally Posted by assen

I'm looking forward Mint 12 (due later this month), which will have MATE (albeit they say it won't be perfect yet) - and it may provide a suitable code base for spin-off.

For the record, MATE is a Gnome 2 fork which aims at keeping the good ol' desktop experience while using up-to-date system libraries.

Mint Gnome+MATE is here: http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=17

[Radioman621]

This just in:

Spotted this on /. Wish Fedora would do this.

"Clement Lefebvre, the Linux Mint founder, has started working on a GNOME Shell fork called Cinnamon, which tries to offer a layout similar to GNOME 2, with emphasis on "making users feel at home and providing them with an easy to use and comfortable desktop experience"

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by Radioman621

This just in:

Spotted this on /. Wish Fedora would do this.

"Clement Lefebvre, the Linux Mint founder, has started working on a GNOME Shell fork called Cinnamon, which tries to offer a layout similar to GNOME 2, with emphasis on "making users feel at home and providing them with an easy to use and comfortable desktop experience"

I compiled it for fun.

[sea]

Originally Posted by Radioman621

I hate Gnome 3. At first I figured that I did not like it because it was new and it would just take time to get used to it.
...
This not an improvement, it is a step backwards from my point of view. Last night I thought this is my computer not theirs, I don't need or want this. I blew it all away and went back to Fedora 14. I am considering Mint.

Well... F16 offers more than just the commonly used DE's..
Among the Fedora networks / pages, you'll find E16, Awesome, LXDE, beside the more known KDE, XFCE ones.

I might be wrong, but i thought E16 is in the rpmfusion repos, where as awesome repo is downloadable at repos.fedorapeople.org. LXDE and XFCE are always available with groupinstall

Just my 2 cents.

[nonamedotc]

Originally Posted by sea

I might be wrong, but i thought E16 is in the rpmfusion repos,

Yup! it is indeed in rpmfusion along with applets (as a separate package).

[PiElle]

Long life to Gnome 3!
With the latest upgrades is becoming very good!

[CrimsonKing]

Why not make a Fedora Cinnamon/MATE/whatever spin for those who liked Gnome2?

(Slightly OT: What is awesome's package name? Could not find it with yum search.)

[LinuxNerd]

Well, Gnome 2 is still being used in other Linux distros, specifically RHEL and its clones, and Debian, but I doubt that it will be used in Fedora, Fedora's pretty much Gnome 3 for the most part.

Plus Gnome 3 actually looks pretty sweet as well. It has a lot of features that I'd like and would be pretty cool.

Fedora 16 also has LXDE and KDE available.

[sea]

Fedora is bleeding edge.
Gnome 2 is 'old' and no bleeding edge. So that is NOT part of the Fedora philosophy.

For the same reason you dont get a KDE 1 Fedora spin, but KDE 4.x.

[VernDog]

Looks like the OP has left the building. Now just preaching to the choir, but with Cinnamon I have no need for , " Something old, ..., something borrowed, something blue", but yes on something new.

[Radioman621]

Originally Posted by LinuxNerd

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Plus Gnome 3 actually looks pretty sweet as well. It has a lot of features that I'd like and would be pretty cool.

Fedora 16 also has LXDE and KDE available.

What are those features? I am curious what you like about Gnome 3.

[Bazu135]

They're desktop environments - the four major ones for Fedora are Gnome, KDE, Xfce and LXDE.

[LinuxNerd]

Originally Posted by Radioman621

What are those features? I am curious what you like about Gnome 3.

A GNOME Fallback Mode. You don't like GNOME Shell, or you do like it, but just don't thing it's designed for traditional desktops very well, or you don't have the resources for it, and you have the F16 GNOME Spin, just enable Fallback Mode and you have a GNOME 2-style desktop.

B The general GNOME Shell feel isn't all that bad, TBH, why people are bashing it is beyond me.

C GNOME 3's just a good all-purpose DE. GNOME Shell for tablets, netbooks, and touchscreen desktops, and GNOME Fallback for traditional desktops and full-size laptops.

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Originally Posted by yro

Hy all.

I was thinking..

What about an Fedora 16 SPIN with GNOME 2?

I would like to stay with Fedora but I dont like the Gnome 3 at all. Sorry guys..

Is that possible to make that spin? Please somebody help with that.


Sorry about my english.

You DO know about Fallback Mode, right? Use that, and you get a desktop that's almost identical to that of GNOME 2.

[megaloman]

Originally Posted by LinuxNerd

A GNOME Fallback Mode. You don't like GNOME Shell, or you do like it, but just don't thing it's designed for traditional desktops very well, or you don't have the resources for it, and you have the F16 GNOME Spin, just enable Fallback Mode and you have a GNOME 2-style desktop.

You haven't used Fallback Mode, have you? It's nothing like Gnome 2, it just looks like Gnome 2. You cannot add old good applets, just a few useless ones. You cannot change panel's size or location... etc.

Originally Posted by LinuxNerd

B The general GNOME Shell feel isn't all that bad, TBH, why people are bashing it is beyond me.

What I love about Gnome 3 developers, most of their posts are posted from... Mac. Same way your post is posted from... Windows. It's good to know, that Gnome 3 advocates don't really use it on daily basis.

Originally Posted by LinuxNerd

C GNOME 3's just a good all-purpose DE. GNOME Shell for tablets, netbooks, and touchscreen desktops, and GNOME Fallback for traditional desktops and full-size laptops.

That's incorrect. I need a friendly and customizable destkop environment on my laptop or desktop - Gnome 3 does not fall into "friendly" and "customizable" categories. Gnome 3 was designed with tablet in mind, not desktop. Even there, most features aren't right - see notification area - why the hell it's hidden by default and not visible while you're working? that's plain stupid! If you look at other innovatice mobile platforms like iOS or Android - actually I would say Android's notification bar is an awesome example how it should be done - notification bar is there, by default! Not hidden bar visible only when I move my mouse to the corner... hang on, I don't have a pointer on tablet, how do I get to see my notifications?

[muep]

Originally Posted by megaloman

You haven't used Fallback Mode, have you? It's nothing like Gnome 2, it just looks like Gnome 2. You cannot add old good applets, just a few useless ones. You cannot change panel's size or location... etc.

I have used the fallback mode on a computer that does not support OpenGL very well. I think the fallback mode still much behaves like Gnome 2 did.

There still is a similar plugin system, but of course most of the third party gnome-panel applets have not been ported. At least in Gnome 3.2 as shipped in Fedora 16, panels can be resized and relocated.

Originally Posted by megaloman

Gnome 3 was designed with tablet in mind, not desktop.

I think the design suits traditional keyboard-and-mouse input devices very well. At least for me, it is much easier to use than the old interface that still mostly is available in fallback mode. I have not used Gnome-shell with a tablet because I do not own one, but it has worked very nicely for me on the laptops and desktops I use it on. For tablet use, I suspect there would still be at least some of the problems you described, and probably many more. Most of the applications you would use with Gnome-shell have also been designed for a keyboard and mouse.