Any reason to do clean reinstall for new release?

kodos96 · #1 27th September 2011, 07:06 PM

I'm currently running beta RC2, and just wondering - should I do a clean reinstall of RC3 (and other future releases), or is just doing a yum update going to get me to the exact same system state? I mean, I realize that doing a clean reinstall would allow me to give feedback/bugreports on the install process, but as of RC2 the install process has gone smoothly on my hardware, so I doubt I'll have any bugreports to file... so would I be just as well just updating from yum from here on out?

steelaworkn · #2 27th September 2011, 07:30 PM

I'm pretty sure that if you are running F16 RC2, all you have to do is yum update regularly and you'll be fine. Usually, the latest updates moves your system to the final version while correcting bugs and stuff.

sea · #3 27th September 2011, 07:41 PM

Yup, yum updates it all.

There was only a 'need' to do a fresh install for the change from F14 to F15, due to introduction of Gnome 3.
However, even then it was only a suggestion and not a requirement.

Anyway, if you want to help the devs, a fresh install (along with a report how it went) would be welcome i guess

**AdamW** · #4 27th September 2011, 08:27 PM

yum updating is fine.

the rc2 to rc3 delta is very minor: a fix to libreport (to fix reporting installer bugs during installation) and gnome-documents dropped from default install package set (as it crashes on launch).

Joeman1 · #5 27th September 2011, 08:47 PM

Hi everyone!

I am new to Fedora and am really loving Fedora 15... Just a quick question, not meaning to tread on someone else's thread

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Can I yum update from Fedora 15 to 16? I'm new to Fedora, but actually support RHEL at my work, so I am familiar with Linux.

Just got my system all set up from Ubuntu and don't want to have to re-install all my work, so I was wondering if there was a simple way to upgrade to 16 beta?

Thanks!
Joe

kodos96 · #6 27th September 2011, 08:55 PM

you can, but you'd be better off using preupgrade (install it from yum), which does the equivalent of an upgrade install via DVD, only without the DVD. Or just use an actual install DVD... less chance of problems, as upgrade via yum, though it USUALLY works, is not really tested.

***DBelton*** · #7 27th September 2011, 08:56 PM

while there are several options to update to a newer release of Fedora, I have always had much better results if I do a fresh install.

For one thing, it helps to keep the clutter cleared out

You may have issues going from F15 to F16, too. F16 is starting to use grub2 as teh bootloader instead of the legacy grub. Not sure what issues that is going to introduce in an upgrade.

One of the options is using preupgrade.

You can look over the page for using it here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_PreUpgrade

Edit:

another note too..

If you have installed any non-fedora packages, you may have to manually update those yourself.

I also recommend to remove third party video drivers (nvidia or ati/amd) before doing an upgrade as well. Those are dependent upon the kernel version and you could end up with a system that won't boot all the way after you upgrade. Just remove them, and re-install after the upgrade is done.

Joeman1 · #8 27th September 2011, 08:58 PM

Great! Thanks for the replies!

Joe

fpmurphy · #9 27th September 2011, 09:40 PM

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You may have issues going from F15 to F16, too. F16 is starting to use grub2 as teh bootloader

Well, I just updated an x64_86 BIOS-based box from F15 to F16 and the update did not install GRUB2. I am running F16 on GRUB legacy! It even correctly updated the entries in menu.lst/grub.conf. Go figure!

frostering · #10 27th September 2011, 11:10 PM

If I installed the Alpha Version, applying yum update it's like have the RC2, right?

If you have Ubuntu Alpha/Beta, updating the system with apt-get let you be in the last version. I think it's the same for Fedora, but correct me if I'm wrong.

***DBelton*** · #11 27th September 2011, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpmurphy

Well, I just updated an x64_86 BIOS-based box from F15 to F16 and the update did not install GRUB2. I am running F16 on GRUB legacy! It even correctly updated the entries in menu.lst/grub.conf. Go figure!

I wondered how the update handled grub. Now I know. Thanks for the info

And frostering..

You are correct.

If you install from the alpha and keep doing yum updates, you will keep updating your system, and it would be the same as the beta release candidates now, actually, you may even be more current than the RC's since there have been updates since those images were made.

**AdamW** · #12 28th September 2011, 01:32 AM

dbelton: yum upgrade will use grub, but preupgrade and anaconda will use grub2.

don't use preupgrade right now, it's broken: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731