Fedora 15, unable to install cinelerra

[jjthomas]

I have tried installing cinelerra with autoplus and even doing it by hand. Both ways I get "No package cinelerra available" errors.

From Autoplus:

Checking programs Completed,Now Running Choice Menu...
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
atrpms                                                   | 3.5 kB     00:00     
Setting up Install Process
No package cinelerra available.
Error: Nothing to do

I also followed the installation instructions from the AutoPlus website and got the same result.

I looked at the ATrpm website and all I found was cinelerra-2.1-21_git20101021.src.rpm,

Am I doing something wrong, or is there another way to install cinelerra?

Thank you.

-JJ

[cacasodo]

JJ,
As I've had issues with ATRPMs in the past, you probably want to install Cinelerra from source using the RPM Fusion repos. You can follow my directions to install Cinelerra from here:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspo...all-works.html
'sodo

[roMancer]

hi,
oh, good to see some cinelerra users around here :-)


@jjthomas:
what type of distro are you using, 32bit or x86_64?

I'm using x86_64 (on AMD Athon II x4 615e, which is 64bit, right? :-| ), and yum finds this:

cinelerra.x86_64 : Advanced audio and video capturing, compositing, and editing
Repo : atrpms

installation works flawlessly, but cinelerra is pretty much unusable (hangs/crashes after 2-3 mouseclicks or loading a file or something...)


@cacasoso:
umh, what type of issues? I just removed pretty much everything rpmfusion and reinstalled from atrpms... xD


cheers, ro

[cacasodo]

RoMancer,
Mainly hangs were my problem circa fedora9 and 10:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspo...h/label/atrpms

After having these problems, I've sworn off atrpms, used rpm fusion and haven't had problems since.

'sodo

[roMancer]

hi Sodo,
sigh... well, here's what I did:

- removed packages from atrpms:
packages listed by "yum list installed | grep atrpm", and a few more from atrpms afterwards which were shown in yellow colour (huh?) by "yum list installed" which obviously "grep atrpm" didnt get

- downloaded latest cinelerra sources:
git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git cinelerra-cv-20110703

- installed cinelerra's dependencies as listed on your page:
yum install gsm-devel libvorbis* libogg* libtool* libtheora* libpng* libjpeg* libtiff* esound* audiofile* libraw1394* libavc1394* freetype* fontconfig* nasm e2fsprogs* OpenEXR* fftw fftw-devel libsndfile* libiec61883* libdv* libquicktime ffmpeg xvidcore* lame lame-devel a52* faad2* x264* mjpegtools* faac* vlc*

- skipped ffmpeg compilation / dependencies installation described on your page:
...as I dont care for for faac-support.

- applied patch to remove Video for Linux and IOMega Buzz drivers:
followed the link on your page: http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/201...0bc424.en.html
which points to a patchfile at: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/raw-attach...4l-buzz-3.diff
(had to "yum install patch")
- applied patch with: patch -p0 -i remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff
- had to supply file paths manually, as my download-path didn't match the paths set in the patchfile
(which is not your fault, I'm just writing it down for others who might read this)

- ./configure and make:
after a bit of fiddling around with configure-options and trying to "make", which led to installing some more stuff...
(yum install gcc-c++ libXv-devel libuuid-devel)
...things looked pretty good with this configuration:
./configure --disable-oss --disable-esd --disable-esdtest --disable-rpath

"make" would more or less run, exiting with an error:
mv: cannot stat `t-de.gmo': No such file or directory
(hope I picked the right line here)
...but I gave it a try, because I found an executable (cinelerra/cinelerra):
"make install" would run, but exit with "mv: cannot stat `t-de.gmo': No such file or directory", too.

running "cinelerra" (without a path) runs cinelerra! wow!
loading a file worked,
but cinelerra crashes when I hit the play-button.

(that's it for today. may this information be helpful to someone.)

cheers,
Ro

[cacasodo]

roMancer,
I had that missing language file problem back in August of last year when i was building out an Ubuntu VM:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspo...ubuntu-32.html

The solution is to create an empty file for each language file that causes the crash using "touch". There is a list of the gmo files that I touch in the above post. Then compile and install as normal. I'd uninstall what you have just to make sure nothing funky is laying about in your system.

sodo

[roMancer]

hi again,
hm, any chance of resubmitting this stuff to the original developers / main development branch / cinelerra source code?
so we don't have to redo all steps locally on our harddiscs, but instead actually improve the codebase for future downloads / compiles?
roMan

[cacasodo]

ro,
You could post an email to the http://cinelerra.org mailing list. SIgn up is here:
https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skole...info/cinelerra

Or add to the bug list:
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/

sodo

[roMancer]

I added to the bug list, thanks.

will 'make uninstall' reliably uninstall?

---------- Post added at 01:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:17 AM ----------


tried compiling again, using today's sources, added 'remove-...'-patch, touched language files
-> configure (no options) -> make...
...whoow! cinelerra works!

avi mpeg4 render crashes, but who need fancy file formats, will transcode anyway :-) (avi mjpeg seems to be ok)

note to self:
hitting 'play' crashed, but was able to resolve this: settings -> audio buffer was set to 0, setting to 2048 playback ok

thanks for your support, sodo! :-)

[cacasodo]

ro,
yes, "make uninstall" will clean out your previous install entirely.

at one point, I made a chart of file compatibility..here it is:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspo...ity-chart.html

sodo

[roMancer]

the internet needs guys like you :-)
thanks again

(and maybe note that I edited my previous post, adding compilation steps (nothing special here), but forgot to hit 'submit' button.)

[cacasodo]

ro,
Good deal. Glad it worked out for you.
'sodo

[roMancer]

hi there,
here are my latest efforts, and trying to sum up the information above:

1. system specs:
========================
this is my machine:
Linux box.localdomain 2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jul 29 18:46:53 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Fedora 15 LXDE Spin
running on AMD Athlon II x4 615e CPU


2. getting cinelerra:
========================

downloaded construction_site snapshot on sept. 16th, titled/commented "Use replacement for in-kernel videodev.h in v4l and buz drivers" from:

http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=Ci...struction_site

...which obviously includes the "remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff" patch (see previous posts above)


3. adding dependencies (as root):
===================================

yum install gsm-devel libvorbis* libogg* libtool* libtheora* libpng* libjpeg* libtiff* esound* audiofile* libraw1394* libavc1394* fontconfig* nasm e2fsprogs* OpenEXR* fftw fftw-devel libsndfile* libiec61883* libdv* libquicktime ffmpeg xvidcore* lame lame-devel a52* faad2* x264* mjpegtools* faac* vlc* libXv-devel libuuid-devel freetype freetype-devel gcc-c++

(= same as in previous post above, just all-in-one, and changed freetype* to freetype and freetype-devel, due to yum error with other freetype packages)


4. building and installing cinelerra (as root):
================================================

adding fixes as mentioned by cacasodo, see posts/links above:

> ldconfig
> chmod 777 po/stamp-po
> echo "kernel.shmmax=2147483648" >> /etc/sysctl.conf

(you might want to add a comment to /etc/sysctl.conf, denoting that you added the last line in there for cinelerra)

note that settings in /etc/sysctl.conf are being set during system startup, so this last line will not take effect immediately - see below at "5. running cinelerra".

> ./autogen.sh

(
if you want to use OpenGL hardware accelerated rendering, you might have to add --enable-opengl to the next line. autodetection (=default) seems to fail on my system.
you might need to install additional packages beforehand, my best guess is: mesa-libGL mesa-libGL-devel mesa-libGLU mesa-libGLU-devel
)

> ./configure

running 'make' would now exit with something like:
mv: cannot stat `t-de.gmo': No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [de.gmo] Error 1
obviously the 'missing language files' bug is still present, thus creating (touching) language files:

> cd po/
> touch de.gmo es.gmo eu.gmo fr.gmo it.gmo pt_BR.gmo ru.gmo sl.gmo
> cd ..

now ready to:

> make
> make install


5. running cinelerra
=======================

if you didn't have the kernel.shmmax setting (see above at "4. building...") in /etc/sysctl.conf at system startup time, apply the setting via command line (as root), or just start cinelerra to get a message telling you to do so:

> echo 0x7fffffff > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax

(0x7fffffff is the same number (I guess) as above at "4. building...", just written in hexadecimal notation)

FINALLY...! run cinelerra as your ordinary user (not root):

> cinelerra

so far, on my system, everything looks pretty good.


6. hints on usage
=====================

always be careful with cinelerra, save your work. if cinelerra crashes or hangs and has to be killed, restart and use File -> Load Backup right after program startup.

try exporting short sections of your work before exporting the whole project. export plugins vary in reliability (more precisely: crash or no crash), rendering speed, and resulting file size. exported files might have flaws or limitations like wrong aspect or unwanted borders or bad A/V sync. good practice seems to be: find a working, flawless export file format for your project, set to highest quality possible, save as preset. export (re-using saved preset where possible), then use a video encoder (e.g. ffmpeg or mencoder) to downscale/compress/transcode/... for YouTube/email/CDROM/DVD/... usage.

cacasodo has done some testing with rendering plugins:
http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspo...ity-chart.html


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thanks (!!!) again to cacasodo :-)
and pretty much everyone else involved with creating Cinelerra :-)

Ro

[cacasodo]

Nice way to persevere. Good job!
'sodo

[JONOR]

Would like to know if anyone has got cinelerra running on F16 using the above posts or otherwise, the Autoplus install crashes on this Athlon dual core box ?