YUM versus RPM

[Avestan]

Hello everyone,

I am running Fedora 7 and have previously used "YUM" to install Heartbeat. This resulted in installation of "heartbeat-2.0.8" with its dependencies. The paths that the heartbeat installation is carried under is:

/usr/lib/
/usr/share/doc/
/usr/var/lib/
/usr/var/run/
/usr/etc/

As the STONITH of the heartbeat is written for AP9221 and I am using AP9225, I had to modified the source code. Consequently, I downloaded the source codes from RPM pbone Net.

I made the changes to the STONITH files which now works with my AP9225. When I used the RPM Sources files to install the heartbeat, I realize that the installation is done in the following paths:

/usr/local/lib/
/usr/local/share/doc/
/usr/local/var/lib/
/usr/local/var/run/
/usr/local/etc/

Consequently, I have ended up with Two Heartbeat installations.

If I understand correctly, YUM uses RPM for installation and it actually downloads the RPM Source files and place them in a temporary folder:

/var/cache/yum

I checked this folder and I am not seeing any heartbeat RPM Source file which is used for the installation.

I also notice that the RPM doen't know about the YUM installation and likewise the YUM doesn't know about the RPM installation which is another issue.

Can someone shade some light on this and advice what is the best way to deal with these kind of situations.

In my case, when I started using Fedora, I started using YUM as it was taking care of dependencies and as a newbie made my life vary easy. Now, as I am finding my way around linux much better, I find RPM a more powerful and I am kind of leaning towards it for software installation.

Thanks,

Avestan

[leigh123linux]

Moved to EOL (End Of Life) Versions

[Avestan]

Hello leigh123linux,

I am not sure why you moved my posting to EOL Versions. What I have just posted is exactly what happens when I used Fedora 14. It is just the way Package Management YUM and RPM works in Fedora environment.

Thanks,

Avestan

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by Avestan

Hello leigh123linux,

I am not sure why you moved my posting to EOL Versions. What I have just posted is exactly what happens when I used Fedora 14. It is just the way Package Management YUM and RPM works in Fedora environment.

Thanks,

Avestan

Hi,

I am running Fedora 7 and have previously

F7 is EOL

[Avestan]

leigh123linux,

The Fedora version has no effect on how YUM and RPM Package management works. I get the same result on my Fedora 12 and Fedora 14 box. The only difference would the version of the package that YUM is going to install which all goes back to repository stuff while using RPM Source file I can download and try any version of a package.

If the sentence, "I am running Fedora 7" is so much of the problem, I certainly can change it to "I am running Fedora 14".

The posting was not filed as a special feature or a bug for a particular version of Fedora. It was a general question to understand how people deal with the fact that there are number of package managements available to Fedora and they tend not to communicate with each other which could become problematic.

Thanks,

Avestan

[stoat]

I don't know the answer to the question about the different installation locations for the different rpm packages. Sorry. But regarding the questions about yum and rpm, the rpm command checks for dependencies but does not handle them. That's okay if you know what you're doing and can gather up all of the required dependencies. In fact, the people that use Slackware like doing business that way. Otherwise, you can go quickly and straightly mad installing complex packages with rpm. Yum is a frontend to rpm and will handle dependencies for you. It's easier, obviously. I use rpm sometimes and yum most of the time. I never use any of the GUI package installer frontends. Lastly, yum deletes the rpm packages that it downloaded when the installation is complete unless you modify its config file to make it retain them (/etc/yum.conf). If you do that, you should develop some scheme for managing all of those packages or your partition may fill up with them.

[stoat]

Closed. You went off and started another thread on this same subject matter while I was reading and posting in this one. See what happens when you double post? You wasted my time, man. Not only that, but double posting is a great way to get conflicting opinions without the benefit of discussion to resolve them. The result is more confusion. And oh yeah, the posting rules prohibit double posting. This needs to be your last fling with it.

If anybody wants to participate further in this, then go here....

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=262988

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by Avestan

leigh123linux,

The Fedora version has no effect on how YUM and RPM Package management works. I get the same result on my Fedora 12 and Fedora 14 box. The only difference would the version of the package that YUM is going to install which all goes back to repository stuff while using RPM Source file I can download and try any version of a package.

If the sentence, "I am running Fedora 7" is so much of the problem, I certainly can change it to "I am running Fedora 14".

The posting was not filed as a special feature or a bug for a particular version of Fedora. It was a general question to understand how people deal with the fact that there are number of package managements available to Fedora and they tend not to communicate with each other which could become problematic.

Thanks,

Avestan

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