remove pulseaudio install ALSA

zeelog · #1 10th May 2011, 09:54 PM

I have to get rid of pulseaudio. I've read that all you have to do is:
yum remove pulseaudio
But how do I make sure ALSA is running ? How do I install ALSA
if its not there ?

synic · #2 10th May 2011, 11:12 PM

I wouldn't remove Pulse. I HATE pulse with a passion but I tried to remove it, and did so, but you will lose Gnome integration, volume icon etc.

I had huge troubles when I removed Pulse and never found a successful resolution. In the end I have had to reinstall Pulse ... which I hated doing even more, but, I couldn't find an easy way around it.

The developers have tied Pulse to Gnome (and maybe KDE) so tight you may as well go down with the ship if you try.

I would love to remove Pulse fully myself. It is not an effective solution for managing sound and devices in Fedora, and I stand corrected if it can be done without hobbling Gnome etc in the process.... If someone can, please, also let me know.

The Sound and Media experience in Fedora was far superior in earlier releases prior to the integration of Pulse.

RHamel · #3 10th May 2011, 11:24 PM

yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

Will do it.

zeelog · #4 11th May 2011, 01:57 PM

That is bad news. I hate the idea I will be forced to use pulseaudio, or forced to use any
software that does not do the job. I'll run a few tests and see what Fedora can do
as it is, and if everything seems not too bad, I'll leave it alone. Otherwise, I'll have to
look around for a replacement. What else can I do ? It's kind of sad.
Thank you all for your help.

mynis01 · #5 18th June 2011, 03:11 AM

I just installed fedora 15 and installed openbox, then uninstalled pulseaudio (which made gnome stop working right, but I don't care since I'm used to openbox anyways). If you want something a bit more user friendly, you could try lxde.

jvillain · #6 18th June 2011, 03:51 AM

KDE still runs just fine with ALSA & Phonon. You need to keep the pulse libs installed because some one made them a dependency to make sure that pulse gets pulled in.

Chilly Willy · #7 18th June 2011, 03:57 AM

You really don't say how old your system is but...

When I was running PA on my OLD machine, I ran into all kinds of problems with it to the point I hated it with a passion (I have posts here on it if one cares to search). I, like SYNIC, also tried to remove it & ran into the same issues as he did. But it HAS been reported here that OTHERS have removed it w/o breaking the machine, so it IS possible, it's just that my knowledge of "LINUX" just doesn't allow ME to do it... (& I really don't consider myself a beginner any more - but I still have a lot to learn, obviously)

Now on my NEW ("latest & greatest"?) one it works like it's SUPPOSED to (or at least like I would expect it to) so I'm thinking it MUST have a lot to do with the hardware it's working on. And with that, I've learned to "like(?)" it. (at least I can live with it now that the issues are gone)

synic · #8 18th June 2011, 05:35 AM

I think maybe one of problems with Pulse is that the developers have'nt taken into consideration that many people have specialised audio hardware that gets used quite specifically with only one application.

For example, my setup is such.

I have 2 ad in sound cards; one to drive my high definition headphones and only them; and another sound card (not onboard) to drive my desktop speakers.

I have two devices that only get used for Skype. A video camera with microphone for personal video calls; and a headset with microphone for business voice calls.

I have a stand alone microphone for use recording client sessions and isn't used for Skype or anything else.

Then there is HD audio from my HD5450 which isn't working in Fedora but still listed as an available device.

Onboard sound is disabled and is never used.

With all these devices, in earlier versions of Fedora, each application had a dedicated sound device and that application in essence stayed locked to the sound input / output device that was set in the applications options.

Now with Pulse, all that is out the window and I have to open the damn pulse sound server and change it every time I need to listen to anything in Fedora. It is completely impractical from a user perspective, especially when I'm with a client, taking calls, or just requiring sound for whatever reason. It is THE reason my wife and I had to keep using windows for years after first finding Fedora.

I thought you could allocate sound devices do be dedicated to a particular application but that does not work for me.

I wonder if the developers considered all that when they hobbled the sound experience of the what is supposed to be THE bleeding edge Linux distro?

Chilly Willy · #9 18th June 2011, 06:52 AM

I really didn't have any issues at first - F10 worked the best. Then I upgraded to F12 (IIRC) & then the problems began. My main issue was that the volume control (one by the clock) would work NON-LINEARLY, & in so, I really didn't have proper control over it.

As an Amateur Radio Op., the sound output (for digital mode communications software) HAS to be precise as it's being fed into the sound input of the transmitter. I came up with some plans to build an external control but since I don't have a radio for the bands I wanted to run this on, I didn't get a chance to try, & the computer crapped out. On the new computer it all works nice & smooth & I have the control I expected. (still no radio though, but I'm working on it.) But the funny thing is, I plan to get a device that has it's OWN soundcard & controls built in, so this all becomes a moot point, for me, anyway. But I STILL like the idea of it working as it does. Real PITA when people are sleeping & you are fighting that <censored> volume control.

To the OP - the only thing *I* can offer is to do a search on this forum. As I said, there HAS been some that have done it. & IIRC, ONE way is to do a fresh install with a netinstall CD (or other method where you HAVE to download to install) & tell it NOT to install any of PA. (but I can't swear to this) - & I THINK there are some OTHER things that need to be done afterwards since PA is not there. - hope this a least gets you on the right track - & sorry for my poor memory...

oldcpu · #10 18th June 2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synic

Now with Pulse, all that is out the window and I have to open the damn pulse sound server and change it every time I need to listen to anything in Fedora.

Obviously, this should not be necessary.

When you say 'pulses sound server', what app are you referring to ?

I found the application pulse audio volume control 'pavucontrol' allows me to do exactly the sort of thing that you wish to establish.

The first time I run an application, I also run 'pavucontrol' and I tune pulse for that application. The next time I run that application, it uses the stored pulse settings SPECIFIC to the application, and I do not need to tune pulse again for the application.

xodus99 · #11 24th April 2013, 11:47 AM

Hey,
I'm not sure if you're still looking for a fix to get PulseAudio out of the way.
I'm a musician and I've been facing issues with getting sound outputs. Still trying to figure if PulseAudio is the problem.

Anyway, for your question, I think this might work. (Warning: You will not have the volume control showing up on the panel anymore. You can still download an Alsa mixer like QasMixer or something).

http://mondogrigio.blogspot.in/2012/...nd-enable.html