No "shutdown" in menu

[daviddoria]

In the menu when I click my username in the top right, I see "log off" but not "shutdown" or "restart". Once I logoff I then see the top right icon change to the "power button" icon, at which point I can shutdown or restart. Is this two step shutdown intentional?[COLOR="Silver"]

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If you hold alt before clicking the menu (or while the menu is opened) "suspend" turns into "power off". This seems unnecessarily confusing...

[simpleblue]

A forum member made a program that will put the 'Power Off..." button in the menu.

It can be found here:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=261306


I have it installed and it works great for me.

[ovadyah]

Originally Posted by daviddoria

In the menu when I click my username in the top right, I see "log off" but not "shutdown" or "restart". Once I logoff I then see the top right icon change to the "power button" icon, at which point I can shutdown or restart. Is this two step shutdown intentional?[COLOR="Silver"]

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If you hold alt before clicking the menu (or while the menu is opened) "suspend" turns into "power off". This seems unnecessarily confusing...

have you tried suspend? it works better (faster) than power off on all my machines.

[VastOne]

Originally Posted by simpleblue

A forum member made a program that will put the 'Power Off..." button in the menu.

It can be found here:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=261306


I have it installed and it works great for me.

I think this is the one you meant...

GNOME Shell Extensions - RPM for testing

[cgrim]

When you click on your user name and hold "Alt" key "Power off" option will appear on (it works without installing any extension).

[AntMan]

Originally Posted by cgrim

When you click on your user name and hold "Alt" key "Power off" option will appear on (it works without installing any extension).

Good find.

I'm wondering though, why it is so hidden from view?!?

[frandavid100]

So, is there a rationale for hiding it by default?

[fpmurphy]

The rational was that more people simply wish to suspend/resume their system rather than power it on or off.

[Piscium]

I suspend my PCs far more often than I power them off. But not every user knows that if he/she has unsaved files and there is a power failure they will lose data, so in my opinion it is not a good idea to hide Power Off from the user.

What some versions of Windows have or had, is that they show either Suspend or Hibernate according to some key being pressed, it might even be Alt. This makes more sense to me, but I prefer to always be offered all the options, so in Windows XP I changed the default login menu to have them all.

[Igby]

Originally Posted by VastOne

I think this is the one you meant...

GNOME Shell Extensions - RPM for testing

They're already in the repos:

$ yum info gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu
Geladene Plugins: langpacks, presto, remove-with-leaves
Installierte Pakete
Name        : gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu
Arch        : noarch
Version     : 3.0.0
Release     : 5.6d56cfgit.fc15
Size        : 4.4 k
Repo        : installed
From repo   : fedora
Summary     : For those who want a power off item visible at all the time
URL        : http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
License     : GPLv2+
Beschreibung : For those who want a power off item visible at all the time, replaces
             : GNOME Shell status menu with one featuring separate Suspend and Power Off.
             : Adds the ability to hibernate as well.

[megaloman]

Originally Posted by Piscium

I suspend my PCs far more often than I power them off. But not every user knows that if he/she has unsaved files and there is a power failure they will lose data, so in my opinion it is not a good idea to hide Power Off from the user.

What some versions of Windows have or had, is that they show either Suspend or Hibernate according to some key being pressed, it might even be Alt. This makes more sense to me, but I prefer to always be offered all the options, so in Windows XP I changed the default login menu to have them all.

I'll second that - "Power off" should be displayed by default. Suspend makes no sense on desktop computers unless user has an APC installed or something similar. On notebooks and laptops "Suspend" option is not required or essential, as simply closing a lid will suspend it. Hence "Power off" should be presented to the user by default.

I am still impressed who simple solutions can be made complex and difficult for regular users by Gnome folks.

Oh, and have a look at mac os - there is no "Suspend" option - users simply close their lids to suspend their computers. I do the same with my spare laptop.

[cgrim]

They probably wanted to secure users against unwanted clicking on "power off", but why when there is another asking dialog?
Megaloman you are right that it's making simple solutions more difficult for regular users. I really don't understand why not to put both possibilities there? Will be that pop-up too long? :-)

[dougallen]

I have installed the Gnome extension and find the addition of the Power Off option a useful addition.

However, I see mention of it adding hibernate too, but it appears not to do so at the moment. Is this a quirk of my configuration, or does it not do that yet? I'd appreciate any clarification, please.

Doug

[fpmurphy]

If the GNOME Shell extension you installed is called alternative-status-menu, then yes it should display a menu option called "Hibernate" just above the "Power Off..." menu option. If you question is really about why hibernate does not work for you, that is dependent on your particular hardware.

[Nijabo]

Hold down the alt-key when in the menu. Switches Suspend into Power Off...