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View Poll Results: Who will win? Bush? Kerry? Nader? None
Bush 78 57.35%
Kerry 41 30.15%
Nader 6 4.41%
I Will Not Vote = NONE 11 8.09%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 24th October 2004, 10:00 PM
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Bush/Kerry/None

U.S. elections are coming.....this will only be a forum POLL so please do not reply with flaming comments. Let's behave as educatated humans beings, keep simple people. JUST VOTE. Thanks.

BTW, this thread will close in 30 days.
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Old 24th October 2004, 10:07 PM
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I will reply:
I am not an american, but as far as I can see from Europe Kerry isn't a politician, but an Economist. He doesn't look very representative, and he also doesn't seem to be the person, who can lead the USA out of the crisis, that is going on. And to think, that the USA could lead all the soldiers out of Iraq and Afghanistan and to think, is a bit very naive. They have to lead this all to an end.
Bush has started a lot of things and as far as I know is he deeply involved into a lot of Petrol Companies, but what politician don't...?
So imho he is not that evil, as what he is presented here in Germany.

I don't know anything about the others, so I would vote Bush.

I won't vote here on the poll, because I am not able to vote and this would lead to false results.

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Old 24th October 2004, 10:15 PM
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http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion/ :o
Just noted, it's not expected to be flame ...

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Old 24th October 2004, 10:21 PM
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I'll vote for Mike Badnarik. Whether it's a wasted vote or note, I'm voting for the canidate that best represents my interests. See http://www.lp.org/ and please give me your objections. I'd like to know why the guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in a three alarm fire to win.
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Old 25th October 2004, 12:25 AM
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:mad:

I Was Given Bad Reputation For This Thread.....i Have Permission From Edwi For This Thread! What Is Wrong With You People!?

That is the beauty of this country to be able to speak freely without repression, whoever did it TAKE IT BACK!

Similiar Thread in this forum: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-26201.html
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Old 25th October 2004, 12:57 AM
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I don't know who will win, but I hope it is Kerry and I will be voting for him come Tuesday. Aside from the fact that I'm one of those dreaded liberal academics that you hear about on FoxNews, I think that Kerry has a better chance of improving America's image on the world stage and has a much better economic plan. The cowboy turned some of our oldest and most important alies against us and turned the largest surplus our country has ever seen into the largest deficit our country has ever seen.

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Old 25th October 2004, 01:14 AM
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I'm mostly of Optimistic's opinion. I want a president who realizes that you can't cut taxes and still spend. And one who isn't disliked as much abroad.

There is no wasted vote other than from somebody who didn't vote at all.
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Old 25th October 2004, 01:34 AM
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I feel it would be unfair for anyone else to have to tidy up the mess left by bush. Maybe things will be in a better state come the next election
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Old 25th October 2004, 03:22 AM
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That just doen't make sense. Thats like saying America should rewrite its laws to let a president reign indefinitely becuase he makes mistakes. Does anyone else see that as backward?

The problem is I here too many Americans use that argument. Didn't Bush say he doesn't think he did anything wrong in his term, during the debates? What makes you think he is going to correct his deliberate mistakes when he just told you he wouldn't?
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Old 25th October 2004, 04:00 AM
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I feel it would be unfair for anyone else to have to tidy up the mess left by bush. Maybe things will be in a better state come the next election
Unfortunately, that comment demonstrates your lack of knowledge in this area. I'm not putting you down, but this is an extremely complicated issue - not only for the US, but for everyone on this planet. REAMS of material has already been written about this time and even more will be written later on, examined and what-iffed to death.

This election has world-wide consequences, good or bad, no matter who is elected. As much as I hate to say it, we are living in a time of historic proportions.

As Keaneu Reeves once said: "Whoa."
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Old 25th October 2004, 04:36 AM
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I think ilja reply is on the mark.
We already know what Bush is doing and from what Kerry is saying very little will change on the terrorist front. Kerry is promising an awful lot of things that will require more taxes (yet he won't admit that).
I have to admit that the US econmy is not the rosy picture that is being painted by the republicans, however 911 had a lot to do with that (as a Dept of Human Services caseworker I saw the impact of 911 on small businesses, the hotel industry, the airline industry, tourism...etc).
As crackers said it is far more complex than it appears. Each admistration has an impact on the next and far too often the blame is laid at the wrong persons feet.
Unfortunately Kerry has not really told the american people what he is going to do. Is his so called "plan" is not worth discussing? The Bush administration has made some big mistakes in regards to US economy and I don't hear him saying anything about that either.
I forsee a return to a more balanced government, with the House and Senate having no overwhelming majority by either party.
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Old 25th October 2004, 05:02 AM
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If you don't like Kerry, here's something funny.

http://images.radcity.net/5145/792261.mp3

Don't flame me if you like John Kerry please.
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Old 25th October 2004, 06:00 AM
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Unfortunately Kerry has not really told the american people what he is going to do.
this is the way we should be able to talk without harrasing one to the other having a good discussion with a good cup of coffee and a bunch of grown people in bowling game or what have you...having a discussion that affects the future of our country is essential we need to reflect how important our vote is and whatever the outcome is being bush or kerry at least we can say we had something to do with it and our voice has heard clear and loud, i do agree with steve in this case kerry has not clearly stated what he is going to do....

when i see kerry i think of a union right away.....promises, more promises, but the truth is the when you are at the table you are there to bargain 50/50 you will get what you promised and the rest well your have to live with it and i dont want kerry to say that once in office he will take a different stand...

on the on other hand i so upset that some imature kid that does not have a life yet and does not know anything about live and learn can easly speak and instead of being constructive just thinks he/she is God and sentences you with bad behavior and creating controversy but the good part is you live by the sword you die by the sword or our most popular saying "what goes around comes around"
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Old 25th October 2004, 06:08 AM
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I can see it now: the sword slashes imdeemvp's rep -10

Can you hoestly morally vote for bush and expect things to improve?
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Old 25th October 2004, 06:20 AM
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we can just hope that things can improve....i assure one thing this goverment is not as corrupted as others....trust me i dont want to mention them but i come from one them

things are not as bad as people think....the media wants you to think and picture a different scenario just like the shortage of flue shots i can assure this whether you have a flue shot or not you always have a chance of getting the flue and be sick for 7-10 days

who are the ones in line for a flue shot? the elderly! (god bless them) why? because of the media putting fear on them but after the flue season its over the death rate will be the same with a +/- as previous years and there are other medicines to treat the flue too but no the media creates more panic and people fear for their lives. i used this as an anology not to offend anyone.

so you see dont always believe what the media says i work in a hospital with doctors and pharmacist and i know how it is

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i had ewdi's permission before i even started the thread and he said go ahead....
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