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Old 25th September 2010, 05:35 PM
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Belkin USB wireless adapter

I've used Fedora more than a year on my laptop.
My laptop has a wireless card. Fedora 10 will see what i
have, and all i had to do is enable my network manager.

Well i have a new computer. It is a Hewlett
Packard. I had both Windows XP and Fedora 13 on it.

In Windows XP, i just had to install the belkin
software to get the adapter working. In Fedora 13, it
won't connect. I even waped out Fedora 13 and
installed Fedora 10.

It's a modem adapter. The kind that plugs in my
computer with a USB plug.

Fedora 10 doesn't connect. Can anyone
please help me with this problem? (:
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Old 25th September 2010, 06:45 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

The safest guess is that you need to install something for it to work. Maybe a driver. Maybe firmware. Maybe both. Post some information. Start with the model number of the USB adapter. It won't help much, but some are known to exist in several versions with different chipsets and different drivers. That knowledge is a little help. Next, with the adapter plugged in and turned on, run this terminal command and copy the output of it into your next post...
Code:
lsusb
The PCI-ID number of the device likely will determine what it needs.
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Old 25th September 2010, 09:13 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Ok i got the model number. It is F5D8053 v3
I logged on the computer and
did the command. I came up with this

Code:
---------
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:815c Belkin Components
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:0841 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
---------
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Old 25th September 2010, 09:42 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Hint:

google search "8053 v3000 chipset" gives Ralink RT2870 chipset. Use yumex to install "akmod-rt2870".
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Old 25th September 2010, 11:04 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

When i go to that, am i supose to download it to a certain folder? Or do i just download it?

---------- Post added at 04:34 PM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 04:18 PM CDT ----------

I just looked this stuff up. I have no idea what i'm supose to download.

---------- Post added at 05:04 PM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM CDT ----------

Ok i found Ralink RT2870 at this website.
But how do i get to the drivers?
How do i find and download them?
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Old 25th September 2010, 11:24 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

According to ogetbilo (our resident Ralink expert), your chipset uses the rt2870 driver as taytong888 said and well knows from personal experience. And taytong888's suggestion is a good one, but some important steps where omitted. For example, if you have a wired NIC connection to the Internet for this computer to do its own downloads, then you can start by installing the RPM Fusion repos. Run these terminal commands to accomplish that...
Code:
su
yum localinstall --nogpgcheck http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm 
yum localinstall --nogpgcheck http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
Now you can install akmod-rt2870 as taytong888 said. To install it with yum in a terminal, run this...
Code:
su
yum install akmod-rt2870
Now reboot and check the NetworkManager panel applet icon for available networks (left-click the icon) and connect.

But...

If this computer is strictly wireless in Fedora and cannot now do its own downloads or use yum in Fedora, then you can download the needed files in Windows or with another computer, transfer them to the wireless computer, and manually install them. In such an offline manual installation, I recommend that you install the kmod version of the driver because it is easier to describe and do IMO. You can always install the akmod version later online. BTW, the difference is that the akmod version automatically creates the kmods for new kernels. That can be handy on those occasions when the kernel updates before the kmods for it are in the repo. Anway, to install offline, return and report the kernel you are now running.
Code:
uname -r
After that is published, I or someone will tell you exactly what files to download and how to manually install them.
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Old 25th September 2010, 11:50 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

I'm in my laptop with the fedora. I already downloaded the repos.
What if i just put the repos in my usb stick, then transfer them in
my computer i can't connect with, and just install the repos and
install the akmod from there?
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Old 26th September 2010, 12:03 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaninblack

I'm in my laptop with the fedora. I already downloaded the repos.
What if i just put the repos in my usb stick, then transfer them in
my computer i can't connect with, and just install the repos and
install the akmod from there?
I think I understand. If you mean that you downloaded the rpms that install the repos, then manually installing those does not change anything about the wireless connection. So you still couldn't connect to use yum or yumex to install akmod-rt2870.
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Old 26th September 2010, 12:30 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

You mean i have to be connected if i have to use the
yellow dog updater?
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Old 26th September 2010, 03:17 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

No, I may be getting lost in terminology and wording, and so not really know what you are planning to do. YUM can be used to install RPMs located on the local hard drive.

I just got the sense from post #7 that you have downloaded the RPMs that install the RPM Fusion repos...
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaninblack in post #7

I already downloaded the repos.
...and that you intend to manually install them...
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaninblack in post #7

What if i just put the repos in my usb stick, then transfer them in
my computer i can't connect with, and just install the repos...
...and then attempt to use yum online wirelessly to install akmod-rt2870...
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaninblack in post #7

and install the akmod from there?
...which shouldn't be possible.

Maybe you are incorrectly using the term "repos" and really meant that you have downloaded the RPMs to install the actual driver. Or maybe you have a wire connection and meant to use that to install the driver after installing the RPM Fusion repos manually. I'm lost. Sorry.
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Old 26th September 2010, 03:44 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

I meant i have downloaded the two RPMs which you gave me the address to. (:
I put them into a USB stick from my laptop. And i'm planning to install the RPMs
in my fedora linux that is in my computer.

Shall i just do that and manually install the RPMs?

Or shall we go with option B?
Where you told me to use the "uname -r" command?

And then how to manually install whatever files you want me to download. (:
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Old 26th September 2010, 04:16 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Now I understand. Sorry for the diversion and waste of posts and time. Here's the thing about post #6...Those two yum commands for installing the RPM Fusion repos and the one for installing the akmod were back when I didn't know whether or not you had a wired NIC connection to the Internet to do those commands. And if you didn't have such a connection, I added the other option to manually download and install the kmod version of driver. I suggested the uname -r command because the files to be downloaded for that option are specific for the running kernel.

So...

If you cannot connect to the Internet by wire at this time, then you have to do all of this manually. And I stick by my opinion that the kmod version is simpler to do offline due to dependencies. Therefore, I think you should take a moment to identify the running kernel. Then someone can tell you exactly which RPM files to download and install.

P.S.: About the two RPMs that install the repos... You can install them right now if you wish. That job has to been done eventually anyway to keep the driver files up-to-date. Since you downloaded them to the local hard drive, the command will be different than the one mentioned earlier. Open a terminal, change directories to the directory where the two files are located, and install them both at once this way...
Code:
su
rpm -ivh *.rpm
There will be some GPG key warnings. Ignore or agree with them. They will not harm anything. After that is done, the RPM Fusion Free and Nonfree repos will be installed and enabled. Ready to update your Ralink driver files in the future when it becomes necessary.
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Old 26th September 2010, 05:14 AM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Well i tried installing those RPMs. Both of them came up as errors in the terminal.

Then i did the uname -r command.
I guess this is my running kernel

2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
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Old 26th September 2010, 01:15 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaninblack

Then i did the uname -r command.
I guess this is my running kernel

2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
That is the release verion of the Fedora 10 kernel. You did mention Fedora 10 in the first post, but you also mentioned Fedora 13. Honestly, that is what I thought we were talking about. Sorry. When I read it again now, the first post does end talking about Fedora 10.

Fedora 10 is no longer supported by Fedora or RPM Fusion. Fedora Project and RPM Fusion both maintain archives with obsolete packages. So it is possible for you to update that system to the last available versions of packages in the archives. But I don't recommend that you invest any more of your time in any of that. It's hard enough to get these packages installed while off-line without then having to deal with archived repos. And you end up with an out-of-date and unsupported system. Of course do what you want. Maybe you could proceed on long enough at least to install the release version of the Fedora 10 wireless driver just as a test. Then re-install Fedora 13 and its version of the wireless driver.

Anyway, these are the three kmod version files for the driver for the Fedora 10 release kernel...
kmod-rt2870-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686-1.4.0.0-1.fc10.9.i686.rpm
kmod-rt2870-1.4.0.0-1.fc10.9.i686.rpm
rt2870-1.4.0.0-2.fc10.noarch.rpm
If you want to proceed on and try them, then connect to the Internet by any means, navigate back to this page, download the files, transfer them to the Fedora filesystem, open a terminal, change directories to their location, and install them all at once like this...
Code:
su
rpm -ivh *.rpm
Then reboot and check the NetworkManager panel applet icon for available networks.
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Old 26th September 2010, 05:05 PM
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Re: Belkin USB wireless adapter

I'll just wape out 10 and reinstall 13, then install those two RPMs.
brb lol
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