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Old 22nd September 2010, 10:25 AM
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Another dual boot thread!

Hey everyone, emmm I'm sorta new to Linux I have used Ubuntu a few years ago and 2 other distros but not worth mentioning since it was so brief.

I searched the forums and didn't find anything similar to mine. I have my dual boot setup on 2 different hard drives. 1 IDE and 1 SATA anyways I installed Fedora on my second hard drive *sata hdd* My windows xp is installed on my IDE drive.

During my install of Fedora, I installed boot loader to MBR I believe or whatever the standard install choice is. So I am not too sure how to setup GRUB to include both windows xp and Fedora on my boot up. I have my live CD-R for Fedora so I can do it from there if anyone could lead me through it.

Also I have separate question, I have a Netgear wna1100 USB wifi device for my wireless internet. I live in a apartment complex with free wifi, I do not have access to a wired connection. So how do I install my device with ndiswrapper? Can anyone show me a place to download a .RPM for 64 bit ndiswrapper? Thanks!
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Old 22nd September 2010, 10:40 AM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

As far as the dual boot is concerned, its probably best if you post the output of the commands
Code:
su -c '/sbin/fdisk -l'
su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'
so we can see what's up with the partition setup and from where grub is trying to boot Windows now. I assume that there is a menu entry for Windows but it doesn't work?

No real thoughts on the wireless question. I guess that there is no built in wireless device that already works, so no Internet at all in Fedora at this time?

Welcome to Fedora Forum by the way. Glad to have you on board!
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Old 22nd September 2010, 10:55 AM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

I uhh don't know what your talking about with menu entry on windows. I am not sure how to access it, considering I never need to use it.

Code:
su -c '/sbin/fdisk -l'
su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ su -c '/sbin/fdisk -l'

Disk /dev/sda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x480c480c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          64      512000   83  Linux
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2              64       10012    79904768   8e  Linux LVM

Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xffffffff

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *           1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdg: 2000 MB, 2000682496 bytes
64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 969 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0ca2e787

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdg1   *           1         969     1953439+   6  FAT16

Disk /dev/dm-0: 3221 MB, 3221225472 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 391 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-1: 3221 MB, 3221225472 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 391 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-2: 39.6 GB, 39560675328 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4809 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-2 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-3: 35.9 GB, 35936796672 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4369 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-3 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-4: 6308 MB, 6308233216 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 766 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-4 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'
cat: /boot/grub/grub.conf: No such file or directory
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ su -c '/sbin/fdisk -l'

Disk /dev/sda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x480c480c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1          64      512000   83  Linux
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2              64       10012    79904768   8e  Linux LVM

Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xffffffff

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *           1       30400   244187968+   7  HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdg: 2000 MB, 2000682496 bytes
64 heads, 63 sectors/track, 969 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 = 2064384 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0ca2e787

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdg1   *           1         969     1953439+   6  FAT16

Disk /dev/dm-0: 3221 MB, 3221225472 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 391 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-1: 3221 MB, 3221225472 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 391 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-2: 39.6 GB, 39560675328 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4809 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-2 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-3: 35.9 GB, 35936796672 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4369 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-3 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/dm-4: 6308 MB, 6308233216 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 766 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Disk /dev/dm-4 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ 
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'
cat: /boot/grub/grub.conf: No such file or directory
[liveuser@localhost ~]$
As for the wireless... I won't be able to use Fedora or Linux for that matter If I can not find a way to get nidswrapper or whatever program I need to make my wireless usb device work. I did find a .RPM for "dkms-ndiswrapper-1.53-1.fc10.rf.x86_64.rpm" on a website... I forget where. Anyways I don't really know how to install my device once I setup that package. I did this in Ubuntu 3 years ago or so but for a different wireless device. I just found the ndiswrapper.deb or whatever Installed it and had help from the community forums. I am not so sure where to go with my installation once I get ndiswrapper installed on Fedora. I would need a bit of help, I do have the drivers though.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 22nd September 2010, 11:03 AM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Looks like you're using the Live CD? Can you boot the actual Fedora install and do
Code:
su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'
and post, at the very least, the 3 line stanza for the Windows section? It will look similar to this:
Code:
title	Windows Vista
	rootnoverify (hd0,1)
	chainloader +1
You Windows boot stanza will need to read rootnoverify (hd1,0). If you can edit that grub file and make that change you should be able to boot Windows.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 11:19 AM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Code:
[Eviscerate@localhost ~]$ su -c 'cat /boot/grub/grub.conf'
Password: 
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
#          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=0
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
    initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64.img
[Eviscerate@localhost ~]$
Do I add "title Windows Vista
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1

To that grublist? I am sorry I don't exactly follow here.

Last edited by Eviscerate; 22nd September 2010 at 11:36 AM.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 11:56 AM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Yes, you need to add it. I'm surprised that it wasn't automatically added. Add what you've suggested, but since Windows appears to be on the second hard disk the line needs to be rootnoverify (hd1,0), not (hd0,1). Change that timeout=0 line to something like timeout=10 or 20. That will actually show the menu and allow you 10 or 20 seconds to make a choice. Also, remove the hiddenmenu line completely.

FYI
hiddenmenu = hide the menu unless there is a keypress detected, then the menu is displayed.
timeout=x x being a number. The number = seconds that the menu is displayed before the default OS is booted.
default=x x being the number corresponding to the default menu choice, starting from 0. We're talking about the lines that read title Fedora or title Windows. These are the menu choices.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 12:02 PM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Code:
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
#          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=20
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Fedora (2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
    initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.3-85.fc13.x86_64.img
title    Windows Vista
    rootnoverify (hd1,0)
    chainloader +1
So this will work correct?

PS: As for my internet problems, should I post a separate thread in networking?
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Old 22nd September 2010, 12:13 PM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

That looks good. At the very least, no harm will come to the already working Fedora install. Go ahead any see if you can boot Windows.

The networking problem is probably better off in its own thread.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 12:24 PM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Hey how do I edit that file..? I need to know how to open it as admin also so I can save it. I forget how to do all the stuff on Linux with the terminal, sorta need you to hold my hand haha.
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Old 22nd September 2010, 12:40 PM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

As root. Open a terminal and log in as root
Code:
su
<root password>
Then open the file
Code:
nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
Make the changes, save and reboot. See if you can boot Windows.
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

Code:
[Eviscerate@localhost ~]$ su
Password: 
[root@localhost Eviscerate]# nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
Command not found. 
[root@localhost Eviscerate]#
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf &
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

I did what you said, rebooted then it showed the boot loader right? grub and anyways I hit windows then screen went black and stayed like that for a full minute. I rebooted changed the priority of the hard drive for the IDE hdd so windows would boot. This time I did not get a boot loader option it went straight to windows.
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

have you changed timeout
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Old 22nd September 2010, 01:36 PM
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Re: Another dual boot thread!

of course, I had the boot menu open after editing the grub files. I chose windows xp, it booted into a black screen for over a minute. I restarted my PC and switched boot orders of my hard drives so I could get into windows, This time no boot menu appeared.

I am just wondering why windows won't boot in the grub menu?
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