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17th October 2004, 06:50 PM
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No more gaim for fedora?
has fedora stoped bothering with gaim, they never got an rpm for gaim 1.0 now its gaim 1.0.1 and still no rpm whats happining. i for one thing giam is the best linux program and well it was one of the programs that helped me swich over. but i love gaim where is it whats happining?
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17th October 2004, 07:30 PM
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Fedora has a policy which states that packages will only be updated when there's a security issue or the current release is seriously crippled. I don't know if gaim 1.0.1 fills this criteria, it may.
Keeping gaim up to date is a lot of work, as there's a new release almost every week, and because of the nature of the software, it'll stop working a lot. I think Warren is doing a good job keeping it updated.
As for the question about weather or not gaim is still supported, it is. It is part of Core 3 and will be in Core for some while.
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17th October 2004, 07:34 PM
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I don't know what tool and repositories you are using to update your system, but I have gaim 1.0.0 running here (using APT with FreshRPMs/NewRPMs/DAG/ATRPMs) - so if you really "need" the latest versions of gaim, you should consider switching to repositories that provide them.
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17th October 2004, 07:41 PM
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kilrex,
there is a new release but not available in repositories or fc servers for upgrade.....by looking at the change log i dont use the plugins they are fixing so for me is not a big issue.
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18th October 2004, 02:48 AM
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i did not know that, so only security isues are updated? but open office 1.0 has lots of problems why has that not been updated?
and why do all the other distros keep up to date?
and how would i swich my repos?
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18th October 2004, 03:45 PM
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There are different type of distribution models. One is the rolling distro model, which gentoo uses, where you have no real releases, only a rolling release of new stuff at all times. Such distributions are always up to date and beyond.
Then you have the traditional distributions, like Fedora Core or Suse, which will do a new release a couple of times a year (or in debians case, once a decade), these distributions will provide security and fixes for severely crippled applications only. Big stuff like the brand new gnome or KDE will be shipped in the next release. This way the packages are always tested and the distribution can work on integration of the elements. I favor this method.
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18th October 2004, 03:49 PM
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so a latest version junkey like me should switch?
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18th October 2004, 03:56 PM
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i think the best way is to learn to compile from source, i mean not everyone like to do this but it's part of learning, actually it's fun once you get into it
I think waiting for RPM for us that likes to try new stuff is not a good options, but believe me bud, it's nice to get used to compiling application from source. i know it takes time, but learning is always a good thing
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18th October 2004, 09:18 PM
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Latest release junkies should be using a rolling release model distro I think. Archlinux and Gentoo are popular ones. Note that all rolling release model distros come with less system integration, less ease of use and less automatically configured beauty. It's a choice one does make, ease of use and integration versus configuring the latest and greatest. by hand.
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18th October 2004, 11:05 PM
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Why not rebuild your own gaim RPM from the .src.rpm provided? Just type rpmbuild --rebuild gaim-1.0.1-0.src.rpm and you will be on your way. Just make sure you have a rpmbuild directory setup for a non-root account.
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18th October 2004, 11:30 PM
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Actually, the third part repos like Dag and freshrpms usually release the latest and greatest once it's been tested and is deemed stable. If you properly configure your yum.conf you can remain as up2date and stable as possible.
I suggest that becuase gentoo is for the l33t #4x0r5 (I know you hate that script-kiddy speak, admods but its to make a point). If you don't know about compiling an optimization flags, gentoo or other source base distros can be quite daunting  But like ewdi says we all have (should) to learn from something.
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19th October 2004, 11:58 PM
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can i install gentoo on the same hard disk as fedora (i know windows and fedora dont play nice)
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20th October 2004, 12:17 AM
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well i would like to try gentoo what release would be best?
# 1.4_rc1
# amd64
# historical
# hppa
# mips
# ppc
# sparc
# x86
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20th October 2004, 12:31 AM
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most of those aren't distros or releases, those are architectures. if you have an intel or amd (non64) you need the x86 release. if you use amd64, well then amd64 is the one for you..... i doubt you are using a mips or sparc.
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20th October 2004, 12:36 AM
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thanks, as for my qeustion about installing gentoo and fedora on the same hard drive
and i went to x86 and now i have a choice of x86 or i686?
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